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Post by Interrupted on Jan 3, 2017 3:41:24 GMT
how ...How u can complete so much... I am far far away A lot of relic chests, some payed by gems for Octa and Shrew. For others EVERY faction war EVERY one-all attack... Imho much cheaper than Boosters and Altar. And 1.5 years of patient play They DO stokpile overtime. Although FW prefers Arcane Knight (5 in stock) it drops others as well. Sometimes 2 per all-around attack. Ranking is secondary.
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Post by Interrupted on Jan 3, 2017 4:01:13 GMT
Once upon a time a draw Killer Queen on Altar in first 3. Soo lucky. Then on other ocation I spent close to 60.000 gems on Aquaruis boosters jeopardizing Alice Bond. Then I got one from Silver Bond Never again. For moderate or star or ftp this game is grind people. Pick your poision. P.S. Sorry for lot of talk if I bothered anyone.
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Post by asgarth1980 on Jan 3, 2017 6:03:19 GMT
how ...How u can complete so much... I am far far away A lot of relic chests, some payed by gems for Octa and Shrew. For others EVERY faction war EVERY one-all attack... Imho much cheaper than Boosters and Altar. And 1.5 years of patient play They DO stokpile overtime. yeah but my faction war all out give me 90℅ arcane knight... Rarely Capricorn, etc... Oct I am at 30++ only despite going all out at LR... I played since almost beginning of game inception... My LR luck is bad.. I can swear that I got enough shards from other 5* other to form full crits than the desired.. I keep getting siren, hanuman shards from LR... Each 10 chest gives me 1-2 Oct or soul shrew... It is that bad for me...
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Post by Interrupted on Jan 3, 2017 6:52:58 GMT
A lot of relic chests, some payed by gems for Octa and Shrew. For others EVERY faction war EVERY one-all attack... Imho much cheaper than Boosters and Altar. And 1.5 years of patient play They DO stokpile overtime. yeah but my faction war all out give me 90℅ arcane knight... Rarely Capricorn, etc... Oct I am at 30++ only despite going all out at LR... I played since almost beginning of game inception... My LR luck is bad.. I can swear that I got enough shards from other 5* other to form full crits than the desired.. I keep getting siren, hanuman shards from LR... Each 10 chest gives me 1-2 Oct or soul shrew... It is that bad for me... I don't think it's bad for you specifically. The only worthy thing I got from RC was full Dahlia in first 10 free ones. Usually up to 5 most of the featured card shards and most commonly 1-3. I also get crap in first 10 as you do. As anything else when you start to buy (invest) in shards after the first 10 you allmost always get featured shard card. Otherwise game would be full of OP cards for free It's just different monetization method... No free meal in DH... Anyway I do several free tries for a creature (not whaling sacs or something) and then invest in more reliable, at least for me, AB gems to get what I want instead of gambling in Altar or Boosters... Some people like (and are even hooked) to adrenaline rush gambling (dependency) creates... My method is one I described. I tried once for Aqua and after 60.000 gems stopped. Lesson learned. Again this is how I play and might not be the same for all. Same goes for FW. Free (40 gems) all-in-one attack sucks but when you start to buy 200 gems ones you can have controlled spending and in several FWs complete decent creatures, also drop rate in my expirience is way better. And you sleep well and enjoy your game. I also buy gems sometimes... Looking at whales takes you nowhere since this is a different matter and some have a lot a spend to enjoy but some get loans... Some have psyhological issues etc. etc. another story. I think DH community can be scary and some groups are literaly cults. It's intersting to observe, though....
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Post by Interrupted on Jan 3, 2017 6:57:23 GMT
Haha, just noticed today is Shrew Day Good luck!
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Post by Interrupted on Jan 3, 2017 9:39:09 GMT
yeah but my faction war all out give me 90℅ arcane knight... Rarely Capricorn, etc... Oct I am at 30++ only despite going all out at LR... I played since almost beginning of game inception... My LR luck is bad.. I can swear that I got enough shards from other 5* other to form full crits than the desired.. I keep getting siren, hanuman shards from LR... Each 10 chest gives me 1-2 Oct or soul shrew... It is that bad for me... I don't think it's bad for you specifically. The only worthy thing I got from RC was full Dahlia in first 10 free ones. Usually up to 5 most of the featured card shards and most commonly 1-3. I also get crap in first 10 as you do. As anything else when you start to buy (invest) in shards after the first 10 you allmost always get featured shard card. Otherwise game would be full of OP cards for free It's just different monetization method... No free meal in DH... Anyway I do several free tries for a creature (not whaling sacs or something) and then invest in more reliable, at least for me, AB gems to get what I want instead of gambling in Altar or Boosters... Some people like (and are even hooked) to adrenaline rush gambling (dependency) creates... My method is one I described. I tried once for Aqua and after 60.000 gems stopped. Lesson learned. Again this is how I play and might not be the same for all. Same goes for FW. Free (40 gems) all-in-one attack sucks but when you start to buy 200 gems ones you can have controlled spending and in several FWs complete decent creatures, also drop rate in my expirience is way better. And you sleep well and enjoy your game. I also buy gems sometimes... Looking at whales takes you nowhere since this is a different matter and some have a lot a spend to enjoy but some get loans... Some have psyhological issues etc. etc. another story. I think DH community can be scary and some groups are literaly cults. It's intersting to observe, though.... Ok, for the sake of science I completed remaining 20 shards of 2nd SS: Today's Shrew: goo.gl/6QlH05Old Shrew: goo.gl/8cl26yTotal cost around 40.000 gems for 1/3! Darn this creature is expensive. Only Magmus and Titania (if worth mentioning) as full cards but loads of others shards. Today was Total Purchase Event but with 40.000 measly 5 Druidess shards. For my old Shrew I need an advice, shall I keep bless 7 for Hero rage rune or go full offensive with protean?
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Post by 1501✪NFS on Jan 3, 2017 15:27:04 GMT
Thanks for all the info and advice Interrupted. Can I know how much gems you spend for one FW in average, by using all out attack? And with that what ranking would you get? (may be you can let me know the range, like spend xxx gems will get into Top xx in FW) Congrats for your 2nd SS. Go for full offensive if you have enough rage control creatures in your deck. =)
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Post by Yuna on Jan 3, 2017 16:44:19 GMT
A lot of relic chests, some payed by gems for Octa and Shrew. For others EVERY faction war EVERY one-all attack... Imho much cheaper than Boosters and Altar. And 1.5 years of patient play They DO stokpile overtime. Although FW prefers Arcane Knight (5 in stock) it drops others as well. Sometimes 2 per all-around attack. Ranking is secondary. It and Momoya Mall do not have any of the Lost Relics-only creatures, though. So if you want Octavius or Soul Shrew, it's Lost Relic or Ultima Chest events for you.
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Post by razor on Jan 3, 2017 17:19:09 GMT
I m a bit lucky when it comes to soul shrew and granite dragon I have done only two LR's of each and have 8 shards of both and I have done 6-8 chests on both occasions But octavius drop rate seems really really low ....I have done 3 octavius LR's and have only managed 3 Oct shards and I did 7-9 chests on all three occasions I guess octavius drop rate really is low
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Post by TheDoctor✪NFS on Jan 3, 2017 17:43:12 GMT
I still think Lost Relics (LR) is one of the best events for FTP players. Input each event is around 200 gems for me (which can easily be saved up from free gems you acquire) and although I am still a way off getting enough shards to make an OP creature, you do get appreciable numbers of ordinary 4* cards as well as the chance of some great 5* ones. On the last hera LR event I got a full Taurus card amongst the 8 chests I opened... It has made a significant boost to my deck for certain and allowed me to beat 120 trial for the first time.
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Post by Interrupted on Jan 3, 2017 18:02:29 GMT
Yeah, as Yuna said Soul Shrew and Octavious are Relics only. Chrono, etc as well... Momoya has it's own exclusive creatures such as Virgo and Demolishing beam house (cant remmemer the name atm) but this for me is expensive adventure as real monay is involved so I grind slowly Druidess... 95 shards using previous event tickets and some on this event. Look for discounted 20 packs packages if you are lucky to get them as for each account Mall is randomly refreshed every 2 hours. However drop rates seems to went down on LR. Shard rates almost the same as in first 10, but you'll need months if not an year if you don't speed things with gems. By that time they might be obsoleted Earler it was almost 1:1 on every key bought. Buy and consume in bigger batches seems to help. 1501, Regarding FW, usually Arcane Knight but I ranked 2nd and managed to get up to 32 Taurus shards, 10 Aqua (this one is rare but Saggi, Capri and Cancer drop a lot), finished bunch of creatures and gem wise honestly I don't remmember... Should have been about 30k to 40k gems. Not so much as you may think. 90 sparks were nice bonus and useleless Light's Hand for the cabinet Very rewarding event given DH generosity. I also completed Granite Dragon and one Octavious relatively easy but the 2nd one goes slow. Sitting on 32 shards but due to todays Soul Shrew adventure it will be slower grind. I hope this helps...
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Post by Interrupted on Jan 3, 2017 18:35:18 GMT
One thing rearding FW, you need small power but mighty deck in order to mostly meet AI opponents easy to beat. This one gave me more than 95% success and no hero healing expenses: goo.gl/gjY5LRResulting in very nice streaks: goo.gl/MNFGzpI could use it over and over again... Last day stuff become nasty when it's inevetable to hit a real opponent that will break your bones. So do early when and do lot if you want to get serious and spend low but rank high and farm shards.
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Post by Interrupted on Jan 3, 2017 18:52:30 GMT
Thanks for all the info and advice Interrupted . Can I know how much gems you spend for one FW in average, by using all out attack? And with that what ranking would you get? (may be you can let me know the range, like spend xxx gems will get into Top xx in FW) Congrats for your 2nd SS. Go for full offensive if you have enough rage control creatures in your deck. =) Thanks 1501, please check above 2 posts. 30-40 k gems and good deck/strategy. Ranked 2nd. Yeah you are right but I was wandering if it could help with rage buildup. 10 does not really help much comparing to damage SS can do. Thanks for advice as well.
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Post by Interrupted on Jan 3, 2017 23:03:53 GMT
Yuna we understand you.
There are - RL exclusive cards: Octa, Shrew, Hera... - Momoya exclusive cards: Ordinance, Virgo... For buying gems... - FW exclusive cards: Arcane Knight
But, 'common' ones like Capri, Scorpio, Taurus, Saggi and even Aqua are found on all.
Intermixing those events you can get decent ammount + ones from AB if you get lucky.
Not to confuse people by repeating this. Thanks for pointing out though.
Peace.
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Post by asgarth1980 on Jan 4, 2017 0:55:01 GMT
I don't think it's bad for you specifically. The only worthy thing I got from RC was full Dahlia in first 10 free ones. Usually up to 5 most of the featured card shards and most commonly 1-3. I also get crap in first 10 as you do. As anything else when you start to buy (invest) in shards after the first 10 you allmost always get featured shard card. Otherwise game would be full of OP cards for free It's just different monetization method... No free meal in DH... Anyway I do several free tries for a creature (not whaling sacs or something) and then invest in more reliable, at least for me, AB gems to get what I want instead of gambling in Altar or Boosters... Some people like (and are even hooked) to adrenaline rush gambling (dependency) creates... My method is one I described. I tried once for Aqua and after 60.000 gems stopped. Lesson learned. Again this is how I play and might not be the same for all. Same goes for FW. Free (40 gems) all-in-one attack sucks but when you start to buy 200 gems ones you can have controlled spending and in several FWs complete decent creatures, also drop rate in my expirience is way better. And you sleep well and enjoy your game. I also buy gems sometimes... Looking at whales takes you nowhere since this is a different matter and some have a lot a spend to enjoy but some get loans... Some have psyhological issues etc. etc. another story. I think DH community can be scary and some groups are literaly cults. It's intersting to observe, though.... Ok, for the sake of science I completed remaining 20 shards of 2nd SS: Today's Shrew: goo.gl/6QlH05Old Shrew: goo.gl/8cl26yTotal cost around 40.000 gems for 1/3! Darn this creature is expensive. Only Magmus and Titania (if worth mentioning) as full cards but loads of others shards. Today was Total Purchase Event but with 40.000 measly 5 Druidess shards. For my old Shrew I need an advice, shall I keep bless 7 for Hero rage rune or go full offensive with protean? just to clarify... How u get 20 soul shrew with 10 keys...? This include the 15 Omni? I am confused... Must be something I am doing wrong in LR?
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Post by cozy on Jan 4, 2017 1:13:34 GMT
Ok, for the sake of science I completed remaining 20 shards of 2nd SS: Today's Shrew: goo.gl/6QlH05Old Shrew: goo.gl/8cl26yTotal cost around 40.000 gems for 1/3! Darn this creature is expensive. Only Magmus and Titania (if worth mentioning) as full cards but loads of others shards. Today was Total Purchase Event but with 40.000 measly 5 Druidess shards. For my old Shrew I need an advice, shall I keep bless 7 for Hero rage rune or go full offensive with protean? just to clarify... How u get 20 soul shrew with 10 keys...? This include the 15 Omni? I am confused... Must be something I am doing wrong in LR? He spent on buying relic keys. For every 600 gems spent you get another chest. So you can basically buy another chest for every key, you just have to find something to spend another 100 gems on. I am usually able to open all 10 of my free chests using gold chests. I prep all my mazes beforehand for 2 chests each and buy controlled dice. This usually costs about 400 gems. I had a SS drop rate of about 1/3. For only 10 chests I can't say if this is reliable. However, if it is that means to get 20 shards I'd need about 60 chests. Considering I got 10 free chests and only spent 400 opening them, I just need to see how much 50 more chests costs. Well, in keys it's only 25,000, but I need to spend 30,000 to get the chests. So I have to spend 5,000 on something else. Based on what Man Interrupted said, perhaps the drop rate was a little lower than 1/3.
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Post by asgarth1980 on Jan 4, 2017 1:34:14 GMT
just to clarify... How u get 20 soul shrew with 10 keys...? This include the 15 Omni? I am confused... Must be something I am doing wrong in LR? He spent on buying relic keys. For every 600 gems spent you get another chest. So you can basically buy another chest for every key, you just have to find something to spend another 100 gems on. I am usually able to open all 10 of my free chests using gold chests. I prep all my mazes beforehand for 2 chests each and buy controlled dice. This usually costs about 400 gems. I had a SS drop rate of about 1/3. For only 10 chests I can't say if this is reliable. However, if it is that means to get 20 shards I'd need about 60 chests. Considering I got 10 free chests and only spent 400 opening them, I just need to see how much 50 more chests costs. Well, in keys it's only 25,000, but I need to spend 30,000 to get the chests. So I have to spend 5,000 on something else. Based on what Man Interrupted said, perhaps the drop rate was a little lower than 1/3. I am such a noob in LR... Did not know u could buy extra keys more than the allocated 10 per day...LR I am noob... No wonder my shard collection is low... Never knew those icons can be pressed for something... Like the 20 gems controlled dies.. I found out after a lot of LR events later...
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Post by cozy on Jan 4, 2017 1:38:37 GMT
He spent on buying relic keys. For every 600 gems spent you get another chest. So you can basically buy another chest for every key, you just have to find something to spend another 100 gems on. I am usually able to open all 10 of my free chests using gold chests. I prep all my mazes beforehand for 2 chests each and buy controlled dice. This usually costs about 400 gems. I had a SS drop rate of about 1/3. For only 10 chests I can't say if this is reliable. However, if it is that means to get 20 shards I'd need about 60 chests. Considering I got 10 free chests and only spent 400 opening them, I just need to see how much 50 more chests costs. Well, in keys it's only 25,000, but I need to spend 30,000 to get the chests. So I have to spend 5,000 on something else. Based on what Man Interrupted said, perhaps the drop rate was a little lower than 1/3. I am such a noob in LR... Did not know u could buy extra keys more than the allocated 10 per day...LR I am noob... No wonder my shard collection is low... Never knew those icons can be pressed for something... Like the 20 gems controlled dies.. I found out after a lot of LR events later... Only the first 10 chests contain omni shards. I'm not convinced spending on chests/keys beyond the first 10 is at all worth it. I may be misunderstanding the importance of soul shrew, though.... To me, maybe if it was Octavius?
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Post by Interrupted on Jan 4, 2017 1:39:21 GMT
just to clarify... How u get 20 soul shrew with 10 keys...? This include the 15 Omni? I am confused... Must be something I am doing wrong in LR? He spent on buying relic keys. For every 600 gems spent you get another chest. So you can basically buy another chest for every key, you just have to find something to spend another 100 gems on. I am usually able to open all 10 of my free chests using gold chests. I prep all my mazes beforehand for 2 chests each and buy controlled dice. This usually costs about 400 gems. I had a SS drop rate of about 1/3. For only 10 chests I can't say if this is reliable. However, if it is that means to get 20 shards I'd need about 60 chests. Considering I got 10 free chests and only spent 400 opening them, I just need to see how much 50 more chests costs. Well, in keys it's only 25,000, but I need to spend 30,000 to get the chests. So I have to spend 5,000 on something else. Based on what Man Interrupted said, perhaps the drop rate was a little lower than 1/3. Exactly drop rate was awfull and that something else was energy and 'rare shards boosters'. Nowhere near as before. Terrible. Seems to me that either I really had bad day or this has been nerfed as well since I opened significant ammount. Anyway nothing to complain as I got other very nice other shards. And I got the the creature so no complaints from me One more to go for Taurus, 2 for Kitsune. Most important is AB if coming is secured and I make use of difference. What's the point of sfockpiling gems when they anyway are loosing value.
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Post by cozy on Jan 4, 2017 1:40:33 GMT
He spent on buying relic keys. For every 600 gems spent you get another chest. So you can basically buy another chest for every key, you just have to find something to spend another 100 gems on. I am usually able to open all 10 of my free chests using gold chests. I prep all my mazes beforehand for 2 chests each and buy controlled dice. This usually costs about 400 gems. I had a SS drop rate of about 1/3. For only 10 chests I can't say if this is reliable. However, if it is that means to get 20 shards I'd need about 60 chests. Considering I got 10 free chests and only spent 400 opening them, I just need to see how much 50 more chests costs. Well, in keys it's only 25,000, but I need to spend 30,000 to get the chests. So I have to spend 5,000 on something else. Based on what Man Interrupted said, perhaps the drop rate was a little lower than 1/3. Exactly drop rate was awfull and that something else was energy and 'rare shards boosters'. Nowhere near as before. Terrible. Seems to me that either I really had bad day or this has been nerfed as well since I opened significant ammount. Anyway nothing to complain as I got other very nice other shards. And I got the the creature so no complaints from me One more to go for Taurus, 2 for Kitsune. Most important is AB if coming is secured and I make use of difference. What's the point of sfockpiling gems when they anyway are loosing value. How were the rare shard boosters?
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Post by Interrupted on Jan 4, 2017 1:53:57 GMT
Exactly drop rate was awfull and that something else was energy and 'rare shards boosters'. Nowhere near as before. Terrible. Seems to me that either I really had bad day or this has been nerfed as well since I opened significant ammount. Anyway nothing to complain as I got other very nice other shards. And I got the the creature so no complaints from me One more to go for Taurus, 2 for Kitsune. Most important is AB if coming is secured and I make use of difference. What's the point of stockpiling gems when they anyway are loosing value. How were the rare shard boosters? Prety nice I'd say. Only that one missing Taurus shard is bothering me Kitsune dropped very well and I need 2 more shards to complete her. I hate recycling so another melded Kitsune with revive along with Revive Kumiho and FB 10 Kitsune would make super fast board control deck with no recycling. Also that new FB rune in combo with skill from equipment make this card very very deadly wiping the boards But you get the point of lost omnies. I gave myself luxury to complete Soul Shrew in a day. Octavius is on 35 shards (second one) so I doubt I'll miss him as well. This time slower.
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Post by Interrupted on Jan 4, 2017 2:01:36 GMT
The thing is that earlier when you brake the barrier of the first 10 drop rate was rising significantly. Almost 1/1. Well seems no more...
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Post by asgarth1980 on Jan 4, 2017 2:13:27 GMT
What the fish... I bought 1 time after the 10 keys and it do not allow me to open the chest
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Post by Interrupted on Jan 4, 2017 2:18:25 GMT
And for Soul Shrew. It's very very good card. Just read the description of Swarm skill. Octavius can be locked and killed easily nowadays. This one is deadlly out of the box. I simply love that card.
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Post by loranneman on Jan 4, 2017 2:22:19 GMT
What the fish... I bought 1 time after the 10 keys and it do not allow me to open the chest You need to spend 600 gems (doesnt matter on what) on the day of the event. Then you get a chest. To open it..you need to have a key gained from the maze or bought for 400 gems But you probably know that:p
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Post by Interrupted on Jan 4, 2017 2:33:03 GMT
What the fish... I bought 1 time after the 10 keys and it do not allow me to open the chest You need to spend 600 gems (doesnt matter on what) on the day of the event. Then you get a chest. To open it..you need to have a key gained from the maze or bought for 400 gems But you probably know that:p As a matter of fact first 3 keys cost 'only' 400 assuming you were able to find them in mazes. Reseting maze 15 helps That calculates into the cost needed. Later you need to add only 100 as keys costs 500 themselves. IGG trickery as we know it
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Post by asgarth1980 on Jan 4, 2017 2:39:39 GMT
What the fish... I bought 1 time after the 10 keys and it do not allow me to open the chest You need to spend 600 gems (doesnt matter on what) on the day of the event. Then you get a chest. To open it..you need to have a key gained from the maze or bought for 400 gems But you probably know that:p thanks and I really did not know that... Like I said I am a noob at LR
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Post by Interrupted on Jan 4, 2017 2:44:30 GMT
E.g. you open one Rare Shard Booster for 777 gems. Now you're even with your 7 keys bought. Aww 3:40 AM in Europe. Good night guys. You're awesome and I'm starting to make more and more typos... And will start speaking nonsense Too late for a grandpa.
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Post by Interrupted on Jan 4, 2017 2:49:08 GMT
Just read previous posts, dunno how forum rearanged them. Key costs counts in needed spending so you need to spend 100 more for a chest.
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