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Post by pades on Dec 4, 2016 14:36:33 GMT
Hi all, I just wanna ask which skills are the best to put on; - Light Brave - Pegasus Lord - Seraph - Sentyr Angel - Royal Knight
Thanks for advice.
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Post by Matt on Dec 4, 2016 15:08:39 GMT
- Light Brave rec1 - Pegasus Lord imm7 - Seraph FA - Sentyr Angel Imm/mass heal/bless - Royal Knight FA5 have fun
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Post by pades on Dec 4, 2016 15:21:37 GMT
Because I allready have Horned Beast recycle, and dont know or do one more or just put on Light Brave.
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Post by cozy on Dec 4, 2016 15:26:24 GMT
Second hb is better in most people's opinion. Lb isn't too bad though and you could always transfer it later.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2016 21:11:01 GMT
Hi all, I just wanna ask which skills are the best to put on; - Light Brave - Pegasus Lord - Seraph - Sentyr Angel - Royal Knight Thanks for advice. Alternatives: - Light Brave - fatigue - Pegasus Lord - sneak 5 (royal dancer) - Seraph - Life Sap - Sentyr Angel - stoneskin (for Guild maps) - Royal Knight - too weak to meld
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Post by chyj4747 on Dec 5, 2016 2:15:38 GMT
Hi all, I just wanna ask which skills are the best to put on; - Light Brave - Pegasus Lord - Seraph - Sentyr Angel - Royal Knight Thanks for advice. Alternatives: - Light Brave - fatigue - Pegasus Lord - sneak 5 (royal dancer) - Seraph - Life Sap - Sentyr Angel - stoneskin (for Guild maps) - Royal Knight - too weak to meld Don's use royal dancer lol. She can be used in Transmutation for Kitsune
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Post by asgarth1980 on Dec 5, 2016 2:17:05 GMT
Hi all, I just wanna ask which skills are the best to put on; - Light Brave - Pegasus Lord - Seraph - Sentyr Angel - Royal Knight Thanks for advice. Alternatives: - Light Brave - fatigue - Pegasus Lord - sneak 5 (royal dancer) - Seraph - Life Sap - Sentyr Angel - stoneskin (for Guild maps) - Royal Knight - too weak to meld QT... is good ..even better than hb..because u could get one more crit with big damage inside
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Post by BK✦Singing on Dec 5, 2016 7:22:58 GMT
QT... is good ..even better than hb..because u could get one more crit with big damage inside Seriously? Can you please elaborate? I don't see rec QT in ranked decks, I guess in that level, no body is afraid of Titania. My 3rd Thalassa is still alive, for my 3rd HB melding hit some tough luck yesterday, still 90%. If rec1 QT is really worth it, I don't mind waste 3 HBs.
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Post by asgarth1980 on Dec 5, 2016 11:13:03 GMT
QT... is good ..even better than hb..because u could get one more crit with big damage inside Seriously? Can you please elaborate? I don't see rec QT in ranked decks, I guess in that level, no body is afraid of Titania. My 3rd Thalassa is still alive, for my 3rd HB melding hit some tough luck yesterday, still 90%. If rec1 QT is really worth it, I don't mind waste 3 HBs. Well... some do use it... Jaberou usin rec 2 QT....very simple reason... 90% of crits at top decks are immunity/stone skin so Retreat QT will not be usefull.. Only way QT osmosis works is when QT is being revive to the extreme right when no crits in front... So same logic Recycle QT retain the same function and save one slot to arm with a big hitter...... Puttin Recycle hb gains u mass heal for a mere 200hp...tat is useless for top decks...
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Post by monkeylord on Dec 5, 2016 11:31:33 GMT
Seriously? Can you please elaborate? I don't see rec QT in ranked decks, I guess in that level, no body is afraid of Titania. My 3rd Thalassa is still alive, for my 3rd HB melding hit some tough luck yesterday, still 90%. If rec1 QT is really worth it, I don't mind waste 3 HBs. Well... some do use it... Jaberou usin rec 2 QT....very simple reason... 90% of crits at top decks are immunity/stone skin so Retreat QT will not be usefull.. Only way QT osmosis works is when QT is being revive to the extreme right when no crits in front... So same logic Recycle QT retain the same function and save one slot to arm with a big hitter...... Puttin Recycle hb gains u mass heal for a mere 200hp...tat is useless for top decks... Its more of a space issue than anything. Several players use rec2 qt, because recycle needs to go somewhere. It still functions as an early hitter, or if it gets out right. Retreat is more powerful, overall. Hb, has 250 heal at lvl10. If you have a heal amplify rune on your hero it gets much better. Both qt and hb suffer from low base hp. So, you need a way to help them survive, whether its an extra rune on the hero, hp bonus from eq, or storm ward.
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Post by BK✦Singing on Dec 6, 2016 0:25:03 GMT
Well... some do use it... Jaberou usin rec 2 QT....very simple reason... 90% of crits at top decks are immunity/stone skin so Retreat QT will not be usefull.. Only way QT osmosis works is when QT is being revive to the extreme right when no crits in front... So same logic Recycle QT retain the same function and save one slot to arm with a big hitter...... Puttin Recycle hb gains u mass heal for a mere 200hp...tat is useless for top decks... Ah,, I overlooked. Good to know another option. Its more of a space issue than anything. Several players use rec2 qt, because recycle needs to go somewhere. It still functions as an early hitter, or if it gets out right. Retreat is more powerful, overall. Hb, has 250 heal at lvl10. If you have a heal amplify rune on your hero it gets much better. Both qt and hb suffer from low base hp. So, you need a way to help them survive, whether its an extra rune on the hero, hp bonus from eq, or storm ward. Thanks. I just noticed that you have a lv10 predator as the hero in your main tourney deck. Is he that good, or just a decoy?
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Post by Yuna on Dec 6, 2016 0:50:37 GMT
Seriously? Can you please elaborate? I don't see rec QT in ranked decks, I guess in that level, no body is afraid of Titania. My 3rd Thalassa is still alive, for my 3rd HB melding hit some tough luck yesterday, still 90%. If rec1 QT is really worth it, I don't mind waste 3 HBs. Well... some do use it... Jaberou usin rec 2 QT....very simple reason... 90% of crits at top decks are immunity/stone skin so Retreat QT will not be usefull.. Only way QT osmosis works is when QT is being revive to the extreme right when no crits in front... So same logic Recycle QT retain the same function and save one slot to arm with a big hitter...... Puttin Recycle hb gains u mass heal for a mere 200hp...tat is useless for top decks... Who the hell uses Stoneskin in the "top decks"? Like, seriously, Stoneskin?! The only Stoneskin creatures I can see being used are creatures that have it naturally but those are also not endgame material.
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Post by asgarth1980 on Dec 6, 2016 2:48:43 GMT
Well... some do use it... Jaberou usin rec 2 QT....very simple reason... 90% of crits at top decks are immunity/stone skin so Retreat QT will not be usefull.. Only way QT osmosis works is when QT is being revive to the extreme right when no crits in front... So same logic Recycle QT retain the same function and save one slot to arm with a big hitter...... Puttin Recycle hb gains u mass heal for a mere 200hp...tat is useless for top decks... Who the hell uses Stoneskin in the "top decks"? Like, seriously, Stoneskin?! The only Stoneskin creatures I can see being used are creatures that have it naturally but those are also not endgame material. It is just some figure of speech...No need to be so critic about that.. What I want to say is 90% of crits are immune to Retreat......Only big damage crits like sac taurus do not have retrest protection...Also my top decks definition is top 30 i would say as that is more achievable and aimable... I am not talking about top 1-5 decks...Those are decks with unlimited cash to achieve... my aim is to share experiences and knowledge to the masses... and a big chunk of the masses still use stone skin crits ... People here ask for advise and I am just sharing
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Who the hell uses Stoneskin in the "top decks"? Like, seriously, Stoneskin?! The only Stoneskin creatures I can see being used are creatures that have it naturally but those are also not endgame material. It is just some figure of speech...No need to be so critic about that.. What I want to say is 90% of crits are immune to Retreat......Only big damage crits like sac taurus do not have retrest protection...Also my top decks definition is top 30 i would say as that is more achievable and aimable... I am not talking about top 1-5 decks...Those are decks with unlimited cash to achieve... my aim is to share experiences and knowledge to the masses... and a big chunk of the masses still use stone skin crits ... People here ask for advise and I am just sharing Then you should've said that they're immune to or protected from Retreat, not that they they use Immunity/Stoneskin, which is a misleading statement. What "a big chunk of the masses" uses is irrelevant, it's what "the top" uses that's relevant to this argument you've brought forth. And I'd say that Stoneskin is still semi-uncommon in the Top 6-30 of Tournament. Because Immunity isn't really that hard to come by. You can farm Abaddon through mazes (opening free gold chests and having a lot of luck) and guild maps (just clearing Map 4 maps) and Magmus drops from Boosters. Imm 8 and Imm 9 aplenty. Again, nobody melds in the top Stoneskin onto anything and only a select of the few creatures that have Stoneskin naturally are worth using in a Top 30 deck and once you reach a certain level. Anathema and Nidhogg are stepping stones, not endgame creatures.
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Post by asgarth1980 on Dec 6, 2016 3:36:34 GMT
It is just some figure of speech...No need to be so critic about that.. What I want to say is 90% of crits are immune to Retreat......Only big damage crits like sac taurus do not have retrest protection...Also my top decks definition is top 30 i would say as that is more achievable and aimable... I am not talking about top 1-5 decks...Those are decks with unlimited cash to achieve... my aim is to share experiences and knowledge to the masses... and a big chunk of the masses still use stone skin crits ... People here ask for advise and I am just sharing Then you should've said that they're immune to or protected from Retreat, not that they they use Immunity/Stoneskin, which is a misleading statement. What "a big chunk of the masses" uses is irrelevant, it's what "the top" uses that's relevant to this argument you've brought forth. And I'd say that Stoneskin is still semi-uncommon in the Top 6-30 of Tournament. Because Immunity isn't really that hard to come by. You can farm Abaddon through mazes (opening free gold chests and having a lot of luck) and guild maps (just clearing Map 4 maps) and Magmus drops from Boosters. Imm 8 and Imm 9 aplenty. Again, nobody melds in the top Stoneskin onto anything and only a select of the few creatures that have Stoneskin naturally are worth using in a Top 30 deck and once you reach a certain level. Anathema and Nidhogg are stepping stones, not endgame creatures. it is not the immunity is hard to get but rather the receiving card is hard to obtain... if I have my way I also would want immunity Capricorn.. immunity Tauruses and teams of octavius ... but u just dun understand how hard to obtain those given everything to u is so simple with money...
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Post by Yuna on Dec 6, 2016 5:05:41 GMT
Then you should've said that they're immune to or protected from Retreat, not that they they use Immunity/Stoneskin, which is a misleading statement. What "a big chunk of the masses" uses is irrelevant, it's what "the top" uses that's relevant to this argument you've brought forth. And I'd say that Stoneskin is still semi-uncommon in the Top 6-30 of Tournament. Because Immunity isn't really that hard to come by. You can farm Abaddon through mazes (opening free gold chests and having a lot of luck) and guild maps (just clearing Map 4 maps) and Magmus drops from Boosters. Imm 8 and Imm 9 aplenty. Again, nobody melds in the top Stoneskin onto anything and only a select of the few creatures that have Stoneskin naturally are worth using in a Top 30 deck and once you reach a certain level. Anathema and Nidhogg are stepping stones, not endgame creatures. it is not the immunity is hard to get but rather the receiving card is hard to obtain... if I have my way I also would want immunity Capricorn.. immunity Tauruses and teams of octavius ... but u just dun understand how hard to obtain those given everything to u is so simple with money... Again, that doesn't make Stoneskin creatures more viable. The difficulty of finding extra copies of endgame creatures to meld off Immunity onto does not magically make Stoneskin creatures more viable if their other skills aren't up to snuff. Also, why in the world would you want an immunity!Octavius? One of the worst melds possible on Octavius. Such a waste of Meld V cards and extra Octaviuses.
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Post by BK✦Singing on Dec 6, 2016 6:36:18 GMT
Well, thank you both, asgarth1980 and Yuna , very much for answering my question. Both of you are highly regarded players, your comments are much appreciated. One thing you both made wrong, (w.r.t the concept of empowering new comers), thought, is that "top" to me is at least what the ranking page IGG has, or I won't be surprised even if some claims 1-1000.... BTW, any of comments on the lv10 predator?
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Post by asgarth1980 on Dec 6, 2016 8:03:48 GMT
it is not the immunity is hard to get but rather the receiving card is hard to obtain... if I have my way I also would want immunity Capricorn.. immunity Tauruses and teams of octavius ... but u just dun understand how hard to obtain those given everything to u is so simple with money... Again, that doesn't make Stoneskin creatures more viable. The difficulty of finding extra copies of endgame creatures to meld off Immunity onto does not magically make Stoneskin creatures more viable if their other skills aren't up to snuff. Also, why in the world would you want an immunity!Octavius? One of the worst melds possible on Octavius. Such a waste of Meld V cards and extra Octaviuses. again please carefully...I said teams of octavius...not immunity octavius....
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Post by Yuna on Dec 6, 2016 13:55:45 GMT
Well, thank you both, asgarth1980 and Yuna , very much for answering my question. Both of you are highly regarded players, your comments are much appreciated. One thing you both made wrong, (w.r.t the concept of empowering new comers), thought, is that "top" to me is at least what the ranking page IGG has, or I won't be surprised even if some claims 1-1000.... BTW, any of comments on the lv10 predator? Trolling.
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Post by Yuna on Dec 6, 2016 13:56:07 GMT
Again, that doesn't make Stoneskin creatures more viable. The difficulty of finding extra copies of endgame creatures to meld off Immunity onto does not magically make Stoneskin creatures more viable if their other skills aren't up to snuff. Also, why in the world would you want an immunity!Octavius? One of the worst melds possible on Octavius. Such a waste of Meld V cards and extra Octaviuses. again please carefully...I said teams of octavius...not immunity octavius.... I misread. I retract the argument about Octavius.
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Post by BK✦GamerGurl33 on Dec 6, 2016 19:42:26 GMT
Second hb is better in most people's opinion. Lb isn't too bad though and you could always transfer it later. It depends on the other cards in your deck, where you are in the game (your level and your opponents' decks), and what you want from a Recycler, as to whether you use LB or HB as your second recycle meld. My main account, which was fortunate enough to get to two Hippos, has one each HB and LB Recycle 2, plus Harbinger and Twins Recycle 1. My baby-main account has two HB and one Harbinger Recycle 1's. Two HB Recyclers are good for twice the Mass Heal, if they're on your board at the same time. Played together, they can really help you gain board control and keep your cards alive longer. The downside though is that if they die together, they can't recycle each other. I7 and Dodge 6 gives them good staying power especially with high level Violence and Vitality runes, but they can be one-shotted by SAC crits and those with powerful skills like Taurus and Octavius. I like LB and Harbinger as second or third Recyclers although you give up the additional Healing and Immunity 7 of a another HB. Their advantage is that they both have rebirth 6, so they have a 50% chance of immediately coming back on their own after being killed. Extremely important if your primary HB Recycler has already been killed, or is about to die and you already have multiple cards in your graveyard. Unfortunately, they have no defense against Disposal, but hopefully your other Recycler is available to bring them back. HB with I7 usually won't get disposed or retreated. Any Immunity level except 10 occasionally will succumb to Disposal or Retreat though, especially when subjected to repeated attacks, although they almost never get Instakilled. Both LB and Harbinger have a Magic skill, so if the opponent has Mythril they can't use their Magic, but he doesn't affect their ability to Recycle, Dodge, or Rebirth. I've never found Mythril to cause me that much of a problem with my LB or Harbinger Recyclers.
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Post by icezaius on Dec 6, 2016 22:33:43 GMT
If you need to meld something onto your seraph, I would guess its for guild maps right? If so, try mass heal. Its very good with her unbound and restoration combo.
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I built sac anathema and sac graboid. Last AB I got a sac 10 demon hunter. It does generate great attk and HP with vitality and attk V runes but is susceptible to disposal / lockdown. What is a good (FTP achievable) option to move the sac 10 to now? I am up to between 6-800 in tournament at the moment.
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Post by cozy on Dec 9, 2016 20:35:44 GMT
Twins was the rage a year ago, I don't imagine it has gotten worse.
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Post by icezaius on Dec 9, 2016 22:28:02 GMT
There is a definite use for twins or pit dragon. Or better yet, go with a 2nd anathema. RQT makes pit dragon a bit worse, but having either lucidity or divine shield means you will 1 shot any QT that you get a shot at. Twins is very solid, and at times will just go nuts. Especially great to have twin defense kill QT, HB, or take no damage against a sac/bb crit that would otherwise kill you. I've noticed twins to be one of the biggest beneficiaries of good equipment, specifically the belt and its skill rate boost. I've fought a few twins recently whose equipment make the twin attack and defense proc nearly every time.
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Post by TheDoctor✪NFS on Dec 10, 2016 0:24:25 GMT
I do have spare anathemas but twins sounds interesting. At the moment i have skill potency + 28 from equips and +37% dodge, +29% crit and +26% hit rate so twins might be pretty good.
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Post by justnr1k on Dec 10, 2016 13:54:20 GMT
Well, thank you both, asgarth1980 and Yuna , very much for answering my question. Both of you are highly regarded players, your comments are much appreciated. One thing you both made wrong, (w.r.t the concept of empowering new comers), thought, is that "top" to me is at least what the ranking page IGG has, or I won't be surprised even if some claims 1-1000.... BTW, any of comments on the lv10 predator? I reached once 1.7k rank with lvl 9 predator. So at lvl 10 with such almost unbeatable bear (extremetly tanky) he'll be pretty much the best 4* hero for tournament. My win rate with him is nearly 100% againts 4* heroes (usually unlucky disposal againts my recHB), 60% againts 5* heroes. I can't defeat p2w decks and well-built 5* heroes decks. My rank in tourney is usually 2-3k, sometimes when I don't pay attention for various days I got dropped to 3.6k-4k
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