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Post by Yuna on Jan 12, 2017 2:04:01 GMT
I thought you sounded hostile too. IGG has been 'greedy and short-sighted' for a long time. Have to wonder at some point if they are actually short-sighted... I don't like what IGG did to this game and find it not very smart to kill any free to play features DH had in it's early days but I was not hostile towards other forum participants. Of course it's not just IGG, most if not all mobile game developers are greedy and not really interested in creating games with long life cycle and focus only on fast money grab features. I hope to see this tide change though and hopefully somebody will step up and prove that free to play games can bring more profit in the long run than currently popular money grabbing hits They didn't kill any free to play features with Fortress Raid. F2P players ( who choose to remain in a solo or small guild, which has absolutely nothing to do with F2P) were just at a disadvantage in Fortress Raid. And I cannot repeat this enough: Had such players even made it into Fortress Raid, they would've been destroyed anyway due to lack of numbers and strong enough decks to win any sectors. So who cares if they didn't make it into Fortress Raid? All they would've done would've been to take a spot from a guild that might actually have managed to take over a few sectors.
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Post by lavep on Jan 19, 2017 4:06:01 GMT
I don't like what IGG did to this game and find it not very smart to kill any free to play features DH had in it's early days but I was not hostile towards other forum participants. Of course it's not just IGG, most if not all mobile game developers are greedy and not really interested in creating games with long life cycle and focus only on fast money grab features. I hope to see this tide change though and hopefully somebody will step up and prove that free to play games can bring more profit in the long run than currently popular money grabbing hits They didn't kill any free to play features with Fortress Raid. F2P players ( who choose to remain in a solo or small guild, which has absolutely nothing to do with F2P) were just at a disadvantage in Fortress Raid. And I cannot repeat this enough: Had such players even made it into Fortress Raid, they would've been destroyed anyway due to lack of numbers and strong enough decks to win any sectors. So who cares if they didn't make it into Fortress Raid? All they would've done would've been to take a spot from a guild that might actually have managed to take over a few sectors. You have absolutely NO clue, don't you? Come down from your throne, put your wallet aside and learn other ways to play game. IGG didn't kill any f2p features in FR simply because it was first FR ever. Sky arenas also gave 1000 gems for top 101-1500 players just year ago and now they show middle finger for anybody outside top100. First momoya you could spend around 30-50 bucks and place in top100 now you need to spend 1K+ Most probably same fate awaits FR if it will ever come back. Or maybe it will repeat heist fate and will disappear completely. In any case even though you think only queen Yuna entitled to play this game I was part of FR and I also helped number of people to get into participating guilds and taste new feature while you just focused on your enormous ego and your "birthright' way to play game. Hope you enjoyed wasting most of your efforts on endless citadel attack loops that locked your decks. Piece
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Post by asgarth1980 on Jan 19, 2017 4:45:51 GMT
You see.. I am not the only one thinking that Yuna is a SHE... In fact Yuna is a HE...
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Post by asgarth1980 on Jan 19, 2017 5:47:36 GMT
You see.. I am not the only one thinking that Yuna is a SHE... In fact Yuna is a HE... He, she. doesn't matter to me same A...o.e I am just trying to defuse tension...
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Post by skatje on Jan 19, 2017 8:51:55 GMT
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This thread just became a joke \o_ Not funny tho...
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Post by Yuna on Jan 19, 2017 9:23:02 GMT
They didn't kill any free to play features with Fortress Raid. F2P players ( who choose to remain in a solo or small guild, which has absolutely nothing to do with F2P) were just at a disadvantage in Fortress Raid. And I cannot repeat this enough: Had such players even made it into Fortress Raid, they would've been destroyed anyway due to lack of numbers and strong enough decks to win any sectors. So who cares if they didn't make it into Fortress Raid? All they would've done would've been to take a spot from a guild that might actually have managed to take over a few sectors. You have absolutely NO clue, don't you? Come down from your throne, put your wallet aside and learn other ways to play game. IGG didn't kill any f2p features in FR simply because it was first FR ever. Sky arenas also gave 1000 gems for top 101-1500 players just year ago and now they show middle finger for anybody outside top100. First momoya you could spend around 30-50 bucks and place in top100 now you need to spend 1K+ Most probably same fate awaits FR if it will ever come back. Or maybe it will repeat heist fate and will disappear completely. In any case even though you think only queen Yuna entitled to play this game I was part of FR and I also helped number of people to get into participating guilds and taste new feature while you just focused on your enormous ego and your "birthright' way to play game. Hope you enjoyed wasting most of your efforts on endless citadel attack loops that locked your decks. Piece What a lot of word vomit to cover the fact that you have no clue how the Hell Fortress Raid works because solo guilding has absolutely nothing to do with being F2P. Fortress Raid is one of the most FTP friendly events there are (at least as it was first ran) because you could just send out 1 creature decks to defend your captured nodes, no need for strong decks or even paying to revive them). Boo-hoo, you didn't get to participate if you chose to run a solo guild. That has nothing to do with being F2P. You (apparently) participated in Fortress Raid. So what the Hell is the chip on your shoulder?
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Post by Sinister22✪NFS on Jan 19, 2017 10:53:21 GMT
Same old beef against spenders.
I am warning both sides to refrain from utilizing words that will just continue to ignite each others passion into aggression. I am serious about this.
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Post by Nafai✪APeXNFS on Jan 19, 2017 11:06:23 GMT
And to come back to original topic Soul Shrew LR are rare now and I have not seen Octavius one for more than 3 weeks.
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Post by ℜ★Kaiba on Jan 19, 2017 11:20:41 GMT
They didn't kill any free to play features with Fortress Raid. F2P players ( who choose to remain in a solo or small guild, which has absolutely nothing to do with F2P) were just at a disadvantage in Fortress Raid. And I cannot repeat this enough: Had such players even made it into Fortress Raid, they would've been destroyed anyway due to lack of numbers and strong enough decks to win any sectors. So who cares if they didn't make it into Fortress Raid? All they would've done would've been to take a spot from a guild that might actually have managed to take over a few sectors. You have absolutely NO clue, don't you? Come down from your throne, put your wallet aside and learn other ways to play game. IGG didn't kill any f2p features in FR simply because it was first FR ever. Sky arenas also gave 1000 gems for top 101-1500 players just year ago and now they show middle finger for anybody outside top100. First momoya you could spend around 30-50 bucks and place in top100 now you need to spend 1K+ Most probably same fate awaits FR if it will ever come back. Or maybe it will repeat heist fate and will disappear completely. In any case even though you think only queen Yuna entitled to play this game I was part of FR and I also helped number of people to get into participating guilds and taste new feature while you just focused on your enormous ego and your "birthright' way to play game. Hope you enjoyed wasting most of your efforts on endless citadel attack loops that locked your decks. Piece IMO, DH isnt the game for you if you dont like to spend. This game isnt super F2P friendly. It does have some F2P features but not enough for pure F2P. You should play Candy Crush or something like that, pure F2P.
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Post by lavep on Jan 19, 2017 11:24:41 GMT
What a lot of word vomit to cover the fact that you have no clue how the Hell Fortress Raid works because solo guilding has absolutely nothing to do with being F2P. Fortress Raid is one of the most FTP friendly events there are (at least as it was first ran) because you could just send out 1 creature decks to defend your captured nodes, no need for strong decks or even paying to revive them). Boo-hoo, you didn't get to participate if you chose to run a solo guild. That has nothing to do with being F2P. You (apparently) participated in Fortress Raid. So what the Hell is the chip on your shoulder? Read my lips (though I am pretty sure you incapable to understand and respect other than your opinions) 1. Events must be open to all. Not just spenders, not farming guilds but to everybody. Events are most engaging and interesting part of all modern mobile games. That's a chance for people to get some freebies, to prove they are better than others and so on. Limiting participation in event just to whales or to people with alts and farming guilds is counter intuitive and against game best interest. When developers want to create exclusive spenders event they can do as IGG already did in the past by creating special booster for particular whale (hint hint Yuna) 2. No active guild will sit on 300K contribution unless this is farming guild filled with energy slaves that will be kicked when owners will need that contribution or this is whale only guild where players don't need guild map creatures because they can buy everything they need from boosters. So this requirement leaves actual active guilds out of FR. it also blocks casual players that might spend 3-4 days in event and come to game full time afterwards but will not have chance to try 3. Limiting participating guilds just to 70 is wrong. As I said it should be open for all to ensure wide participation Whether small or solo guild or weak players will have chance to survive doesn't really matter. After all competition is part of the game. But you admitted even yourself that weak players can stall stronger decks with one card defenders. So it's a matter of different strategies and proper in game communication 4. Event prizes should be based on effort and strategy not just money you spend on event Nothing from the points above talked about MY best interest but what I believe is game best interest. As a matter of fact I'd be better off if IGG will continue with their nonsense as they did in first FR but this is WRONG and not fair for anybody above top 200-300
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Post by lavep on Jan 19, 2017 11:31:48 GMT
Same old beef against spenders. I am warning both sides to refrain from utilizing words that will just continue to ignite each others passion into aggression. I am serious about this. I have nothing against spenders. I spend myself though not at the same level as Yuna of course. but believe it or not I am for fair game. When all it takes to win event is to open wallet it's sad and boring IGG got a great concept (though some may say they stole it from EK) but they focus only on top whales and as a result there are almost no f2p friendly events. All because gms that manage game don't actually play it and have no idea how their product used by most players. And when you measure success only by looking into sales income it's easy to focus only on pay 2 win features
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Post by Yuna on Jan 19, 2017 12:38:44 GMT
What a lot of word vomit to cover the fact that you have no clue how the Hell Fortress Raid works because solo guilding has absolutely nothing to do with being F2P. Fortress Raid is one of the most FTP friendly events there are (at least as it was first ran) because you could just send out 1 creature decks to defend your captured nodes, no need for strong decks or even paying to revive them). Boo-hoo, you didn't get to participate if you chose to run a solo guild. That has nothing to do with being F2P. You (apparently) participated in Fortress Raid. So what the Hell is the chip on your shoulder? Read my lips (though I am pretty sure you incapable to understand and respect other than your opinions) 1. Events must be open to all. Not just spenders, not farming guilds but to everybody. Events are most engaging and interesting part of all modern mobile games. That's a chance for people to get some freebies, to prove they are better than others and so on. Limiting participation in event just to whales or to people with alts and farming guilds is counter intuitive and against game best interest. When developers want to create exclusive spenders event they can do as IGG already did in the past by creating special booster for particular whale (hint hint Yuna) 2. No active guild will sit on 300K contribution unless this is farming guild filled with energy slaves that will be kicked when owners will need that contribution or this is whale only guild where players don't need guild map creatures because they can buy everything they need from boosters. So this requirement leaves actual active guilds out of FR. it also blocks casual players that might spend 3-4 days in event and come to game full time afterwards but will not have chance to try 3. Limiting participating guilds just to 70 is wrong. As I said it should be open for all to ensure wide participation Whether small or solo guild or weak players will have chance to survive doesn't really matter. After all competition is part of the game. But you admitted even yourself that weak players can stall stronger decks with one card defenders. So it's a matter of different strategies and proper in game communication 4. Event prizes should be based on effort and strategy not just money you spend on event Nothing from the points above talked about MY best interest but what I believe is game best interest. As a matter of fact I'd be better off if IGG will continue with their nonsense as they did in first FR but this is WRONG and not fair for anybody above top 200-300 1) It is. Nothing about Fortress Raid precludes F2P players from participation. The fact that you cannot grasp this simple fact is mindboggling. 2) This has absolutely nothing to do with F2P vs. Whales. Nothing. You can easily create a secondary guild with secondary accounts that do nothing but spent energy each day to keep it at 300k at all times and then move to said guild when the news announce that Fortress Guild is incoming. You don't even have to have joined the guild before Fortress Raid starts to participate, the guild itself just needs to register. 3) Has absolutely nothing to do with F2P vs. Whales. Nothing. Who knows why they limited participation. But it did not in any way, shape or form affect F2P players. 4) Event prizes are not based in any way, shape or form on how much money you spent on the event. Again, you have no clue how the event worked. I told you in the post you just replied to how friggin' F2P friendly it was. Did you play it at all? Fortress Raid was the most F2P friendly event in the history of the game. Care to explain what makes you think Fortress Raid wasn't an F2P friendly event and that rewards were based on how much one spent on it? Because your arguments do not in any way, shape or form correspond to reality.
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Post by loranneman on Jan 19, 2017 13:07:23 GMT
And to come back to original topic Soul Shrew LR are rare now and I have not seen Octavius one for more than 3 weeks. thanks for sticking to the topic. Lets hope one of the above, Lavep or Yuna, stop this other discussion. On topic: Yuna ones said that when they take a crit out of LR it gets an ultimatum chest boost. (Recently happened) so i think soul shrew is down. I have hope for octa but it seems they put that awefull mindflayer up everytime now. Even granit dragon is rare. My Question..do you guys think its still Worth spending around 400 gems for dices to get the 10 keys? Even if you dont need the LR creature. I have 80 5* omni allready. Please guys stay on topic
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Post by TheDoctor✪NFS on Jan 19, 2017 14:35:31 GMT
LR even with a poor main creature can still be helpful to ftp players. It does not cost a lot - 200 gems is often enough to get up to 5 chests opened. The chests give useful 4 and 5 star Omni shards and a reasonable rate of admittedly average 4 star cards. However, if you do the event every week, you will eventually draw a real bonus card. I have found Taurus, Gemini and dahlia by opening 2-8 relic chests per event.
I only open the gold chests that I have left available plus any more from a free refresh of each maze. Controlled dice cost 20 gems each. Setting up the mazes for maximum gold chests in between LR events is sensible to maximise the opportunity. Some times you will get 5 free keys from the chests you open, other times just 1. This generally results in 2-8 chests being available for 200-300 gems spent. Normal game activity can provide this level of gems without having to purchase any.
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Post by loranneman on Jan 19, 2017 14:44:24 GMT
LR even with a poor main creature can still be helpful to ftp players. It does not cost a lot - 200 gems is often enough to get up to 5 chests opened. The chests give useful 4 and 5 star Omni shards and a reasonable rate of admittedly average 4 star cards. However, if you do the event every week, you will eventually draw a real bonus card. I have found Taurus, Gemini and dahlia by opening 2-8 relic chests per event. I only open the gold chests that I have left available plus any more from a free refresh of each maze. Controlled dice cost 20 gems each. Setting up the mazes for maximum gold chests in between LR events is sensible to maximise the opportunity. Some times you will get 5 free keys from the chests you open, other times just 1. This generally results in 2-8 chests being available for 200-300 gems spent. Normal game activity can provide this level of gems without having to purchase any. thanks.. i do know How it works with resetting and all. I always get 10 keys with Just dices:)
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Post by icezaius on Jan 19, 2017 14:52:23 GMT
LR is the best F2P event in this game (repeat event anyway, FR was just sick!). You should ALWAYS open as many chests(up to 10) as you can. I've gotten most of my best cards that way. Dahlia, 2 drones, 2 Saggi, KQ, Mimir, and also 2 TD. Its the only event that seems to put most every card into the available prize pool. Transmutation is the other one that you can get good prizes even from a failed attempt, but the cost is much higher than LR.
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Post by shofukamachi on Jan 19, 2017 17:30:26 GMT
LR is the best F2P event in this game (repeat event anyway, FR was just sick!). You should ALWAYS open as many chests(up to 10) as you can. I've gotten most of my best cards that way. Dahlia, 2 drones, 2 Saggi, KQ, Mimir, and also 2 TD. Its the only event that seems to put most every card into the available prize pool. Transmutation is the other one that you can get good prizes even from a failed attempt, but the cost is much higher than LR. Those are nice hauls. I get nothing from them...never have. I barely even get the featured creature shard. But the omni shards are worth the small amount of gems needed to participate.
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Post by icezaius on Jan 19, 2017 18:14:45 GMT
LR is the best F2P event in this game (repeat event anyway, FR was just sick!). You should ALWAYS open as many chests(up to 10) as you can. I've gotten most of my best cards that way. Dahlia, 2 drones, 2 Saggi, KQ, Mimir, and also 2 TD. Its the only event that seems to put most every card into the available prize pool. Transmutation is the other one that you can get good prizes even from a failed attempt, but the cost is much higher than LR. Those are nice hauls. I get nothing from them...never have. I barely even get the featured creature shard. But the omni shards are worth the small amount of gems needed to participate. I didn't get anything at all for the 1st maybe 8mo of LR. Then all the sudden I started pulling stuff all over. Its been real nice!
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Post by Yuna on Jan 19, 2017 20:30:38 GMT
And to come back to original topic Soul Shrew LR are rare now and I have not seen Octavius one for more than 3 weeks. thanks for sticking to the topic. Lets hope one of the above, Lavep or Yuna, stop this other discussion. On topic: Yuna ones said that when they take a crit out of LR it gets an ultimatum chest boost. (Recently happened) so i think soul shrew is down. I have hope for octa but it seems they put that awefull mindflayer up everytime now. Even granit dragon is rare. My Question..do you guys think its still Worth spending around 400 gems for dices to get the 10 keys? Even if you dont need the LR creature. I have 80 5* omni allready. Please guys stay on topic Yes. 400 gems is nothing in the grand scheme of things while the omni shards can make it or break it for F2P players. Even I make good use of omni shards.
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Post by loranneman on Jan 19, 2017 22:02:25 GMT
thanks for sticking to the topic. Lets hope one of the above, Lavep or Yuna, stop this other discussion. On topic: Yuna ones said that when they take a crit out of LR it gets an ultimatum chest boost. (Recently happened) so i think soul shrew is down. I have hope for octa but it seems they put that awefull mindflayer up everytime now. Even granit dragon is rare. My Question..do you guys think its still Worth spending around 400 gems for dices to get the 10 keys? Even if you dont need the LR creature. I have 80 5* omni allready. Please guys stay on topic Yes. 400 gems is nothing in the grand scheme of things while the omni shards can make it or break it for F2P players. Even I make good use of omni shards. where do you get shards from? Except LR ofcourse? Cuz thats the only place i get them and the remove the crits when im halfway
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Post by Yuna on Jan 19, 2017 22:18:03 GMT
Yes. 400 gems is nothing in the grand scheme of things while the omni shards can make it or break it for F2P players. Even I make good use of omni shards. where do you get shards from? Except LR ofcourse? Cuz thats the only place i get them and the remove the crits when im halfway Faction War, Momoya Mall, Mines, Lost Relics, occasionally from shard events like the current one.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2017 22:21:31 GMT
Today I spent 475 gems on controlled dice to end up with 10 keys. The chests and relic chests gave me:
whole cards - Nean Raptor, Cave Dragon, Faen Rampager and Mammoth. omnis - 5 4-star omni's and 5 5-star omni's shards - 3 mindflayer*, 1 bloodletter*, 1 revenant*, 1 magmus*, 1 capricorn*
Only the Capricorn and 5 star omni's will make my deck better, so I guess I can gather 1 capricorn after spending 35*475 ~ 17k gems.
Better wait till the advertised creature is more interesting. Based on above stats (3 mindflayers) i could get a 75 (minus 15 omni's) shard creature in 20 lost relic events. That would cost less than 10k gems. That would be interesting. Regretfully Mindflayer is far from that.
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Post by Nirvana on Sept 11, 2017 6:06:51 GMT
soul shrew transmutation added to the game, thats good move because all required cards is farmable. I hope they not remove it from LR and relic chest, wasted just like octav & ordnance, my main and 2 alt still need just one shard to complete her.
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Post by lotnar on Sept 11, 2017 13:21:26 GMT
Today I spent 475 gems on controlled dice to end up with 10 keys. The chests and relic chests gave me: whole cards - Nean Raptor, Cave Dragon, Faen Rampager and Mammoth. omnis - 5 4-star omni's and 5 5-star omni's shards - 3 mindflayer*, 1 bloodletter*, 1 revenant*, 1 magmus*, 1 capricorn* Only the Capricorn and 5 star omni's will make my deck better, so I guess I can gather 1 capricorn after spending 35*475 ~ 17k gems. Better wait till the advertised creature is more interesting. Based on above stats (3 mindflayers) i could get a 75 (minus 15 omni's) shard creature in 20 lost relic events. That would cost less than 10k gems. That would be interesting. Regretfully Mindflayer is far from that. Nice theory, but in fact you are not going to get a MindFlayer/Capricorn shard on EACH lost relic event as the crit pool is very large and you will receive different creature shards each time. It may help if people share some experiences with LR, how much they invested in order to get a particular card.
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Post by ZanderX10 on Sept 11, 2017 23:12:33 GMT
Took me over a year to finish soul shrew from relics alone. Didn't do ultima. Did 10 chests every event. Sometimes more. A former player finished soul shrew in a few months from relics. Rng is all over the place. The sickening majority of ss relics gave me 1-2 shards. It wasn't until I was over halfway that I started to get more per relic.
Octavius hasn't had a relic since january. Ultima has been several months on hiatus as well.
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Post by jp on Sept 12, 2017 3:22:33 GMT
Yes, RNG is all over the place, i only have 25 SS shards since I couldn't obtain 10 keys before this last AB, was saving for full bonds and luck for getting gold chests after free reset was horrible, but i was averaging 2 shards per event or very close to that for 5-7 keys.
well, now I have full bonds, so the last SS event I obtained 10 keys and it was the worst ever, 1 SS shards and 1 5* omni plus a bunch of rubbish, and now since SS is in transmutation i may never finish her, I am still hoping for the best.
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