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Post by icezaius on Jan 31, 2017 2:45:27 GMT
Question for all the Alchemist owners out there. Is there an optimum level for her? I am of the opinion that sometimes higher level Alchemists kill creatures inflicted with Melt Armor TOO FAST. Meaning there is less chance for stacking Melt Armor, and also having less creatures on the board that can be affected by creatures dying, and so possibly die themselves. My thought is that a certain level of Melt Armor should prvide a nice mix of killing power and opponent's ability to survive until their death with also help kill more m creatures. A big thing I notice happening, is that revives/recyclers will come out and get killed off by melt armor inflicted creatures. Especially HB cause of the lower starting hp. My level 3 Alchemist usually lets me get at least a second casting of melt armor on the tankier creatures. Just curious what everyones thoughts and experiences are in this regard.
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Post by icyfist on Jan 31, 2017 3:01:19 GMT
I'm curious about this, too. Considering getting Alchemist from the mine. I am also considering Oceanus and Spirit Arbiter. Alchemist is the road less travelled, was wondering how she performs.
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Post by icezaius on Jan 31, 2017 3:05:06 GMT
I'm curious about this, too. Considering getting Alchemist from the mine. I am also considering Oceanus and Spirit Arbiter. Alchemist is the road less travelled, was wondering how she performs. well she IS really awesome! I've only ever heard one person get her and think she was kinda "meh." But yeah, really curious to hear some feedback about how she performs at different levels in this regard.
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Post by Yuna on Jan 31, 2017 3:20:03 GMT
Does leveling her up actually do anything except have her Hero Skill's status effect inflict more damage? If no, then she's pretty good even at level 1 as the difference between level 1 and level 10 can't be that high.
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Post by razor on Jan 31, 2017 4:05:54 GMT
Does leveling her up actually do anything except have her Hero Skill's status effect inflict more damage? If no, then she's pretty good even at level 1 as the difference between level 1 and level 10 can't be that high. No actually leveling her up increases her damage output Considering how her skill works ...it actually affects a lot ....it first deals damage to the creatures when it is casted ....then when a defence skill is triggered and then again when it dies and all these damages are chained on crits with meld armour So levelling her up inc the total output damage volume by a big margin
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Post by Topspin on Jan 31, 2017 12:47:07 GMT
I automatically assume higher level for higher damage and faster kill will be better (especially when facing warlock's skill) but your thought on balancing the damage somewhat enlightened me to stop levelling my alchemist beyond 5. Lol.
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Post by ℳarty on Jan 31, 2017 21:55:21 GMT
I'm curious about this, too. Considering getting Alchemist from the mine. I am also considering Oceanus and Spirit Arbiter. Alchemist is the road less travelled, was wondering how she performs. well she IS really awesome! I've only ever heard one person get her and think she was kinda "meh." But yeah, really curious to hear some feedback about how she performs at different levels in this regard. That's me! I don't miss my old lvl 7 alchemist at all ( I play an other account without alch now )
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Post by icezaius on Jan 31, 2017 23:44:33 GMT
well she IS really awesome! I've only ever heard one person get her and think she was kinda "meh." But yeah, really curious to hear some feedback about how she performs at different levels in this regard. That's me! I don't miss my old lvl 7 alchemist at all ( I play an other account without alch now ) Hater!
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Post by icyfist on Feb 1, 2017 2:48:19 GMT
Dodge does not cause Melt Armor to trigger, right?
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Post by barleylime on Feb 1, 2017 2:53:16 GMT
Should fix Melt Armor to include Rampart.
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Post by cozy on Feb 1, 2017 2:54:57 GMT
Anyone have the numbers on alchemist scaling?
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Post by tanisomsford on Feb 1, 2017 7:55:12 GMT
Anyone have the numbers on alchemist scaling? She starts at 300 melt Armor damage, and the death splash is 150. Melt Armor is +50 per level, and +100 for lv 10, and the splash damage is +25/lv, and +50 for 10. Mine is 6, which is 550 and 275, at 10, she is 800 and 400. Hope this helps.
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Post by tanisomsford on Feb 1, 2017 7:58:30 GMT
Should fix Melt Armor to include Rampart. That's true. Rampart is an "Armor", even if it was created after her, it would make good sense to include it.
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Post by icezaius on Feb 1, 2017 10:29:02 GMT
Anyone have the numbers on alchemist scaling? She starts at 300 melt Armor damage, and the death splash is 150. Melt Armor is +50 per level, and +100 for lv 10, and the splash damage is +25/lv, and +50 for 10. Mine is 6, which is 550 and 275, at 10, she is 800 and 400. Hope this helps. loving the term "death splash"
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Post by razor on Feb 1, 2017 12:45:49 GMT
She starts at 300 melt Armor damage, and the death splash is 150. Melt Armor is +50 per level, and +100 for lv 10, and the splash damage is +25/lv, and +50 for 10. Mine is 6, which is 550 and 275, at 10, she is 800 and 400. Hope this helps. loving the term "death splash" Death splash sounds kinda cool ...haha!!
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Post by NFS✪Grandfather on Feb 1, 2017 13:25:19 GMT
Actualy "Death Splash" sounds way more better than Melt Armor,its kinda badass
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Post by tanisomsford on Feb 1, 2017 16:50:41 GMT
She starts at 300 melt Armor damage, and the death splash is 150. Melt Armor is +50 per level, and +100 for lv 10, and the splash damage is +25/lv, and +50 for 10. Mine is 6, which is 550 and 275, at 10, she is 800 and 400. Hope this helps. loving the term "death splash" I was gonna write " acid splash", but that sounded a little too AVP, lol!
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Post by tom on Feb 9, 2017 3:42:19 GMT
I do not have an alchemist, but I have been trying to gather information on this hero as well. Have you been having any luck against Oceanus with yours level 3? I have like 60+ shards for several five star hero's Armageddon, Gorgon, BladeMaster & 80+ Judgment. I will probably be obtaining them all about the same time that's going to be a drag trying to level and Shard up! Even with having all these shards the last time I received a pile of or Ore . . I spent it all on 13 Alkemist shards so now I have 13 Alchemist shards instead of none. I am intrigued by this Hero please clue me in if you've been having any luck versus Oceanus . . I am another one of those Oceanus haters and I'm trying to figure out how to blast it out of my way!
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Post by tanisomsford on Feb 9, 2017 3:48:15 GMT
I do not have an alchemist, but I have been trying to gather information on this hero as well. Have you been having any luck against Oceanus with yours level 3? I have like 60+ shards for several five star hero's Armageddon, Gorgon, BladeMaster & 80+ Judgment. I will probably be obtaining them all about the same time that's going to be a drag trying to level and Shard up! Even with having all these shards the last time I received a pile of or Ore . . I spent it all on 13 Alkemist shards so now I have 13 Alchemist shards instead of none. I am intrigued by this Hero please clue me in if you've been having any luck versus Oceanus . . I am another one of those Oceanus haters and I'm trying to figure out how to blast it out of my way! My best hero against Oceanus is task mistress. My task mistress retreats and destroys clones on the board, even if they are immune to retreats. The only two cards that are immune to TM is Octavius, and lv 10 boars. I recommend using her with no less than Level 5, and with the highest level haste rune you can produce. Hope this helps.
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Post by tom on Feb 9, 2017 4:05:40 GMT
Well hello Tanisomsford, I'm so in love with Taskmistress, let me have her . . Ahhh C'mon man! I respect you for having the shero! I might be having a little money to spend here soon tell me the best way for me to obtain her . . I really do dig her and I just didn't think about spending that kind of $$$ . . but maybe I should I've already invested a Gob of the stuff on this game. And I don't plan on quitting anytime soon this game has to be the most awesome form of astral projection I have ever encountered. And furthermore I would very much like to be your friend on Facebook Maybe it edits better
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Post by tom on Feb 9, 2017 4:06:44 GMT
Were you talking about Alchemist or task mistress above level 5?
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Post by tanisomsford on Feb 9, 2017 5:49:23 GMT
Were you talking about Alchemist or task mistress above level 5? Uhhh... I was talking about task mistress, but I can't remember the level scales anymore now. I think it's level 4 or 5 actually. She clones 3 and retreats 3. My mistress is 7 waiting for Alice bond to bump too 8. At level 8 she clones 4 and retreats 4. Only way to get task mistress is Alice bonds, and daily value sales.
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Post by tom on Feb 9, 2017 5:55:29 GMT
I battled against her recently . . And cut myself saying to myself that she is better than Alchemist I've been hearing province of Powerhouse players that they believe Druidess to be tops . . How do you feel about that?
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Post by tom on Feb 9, 2017 5:56:03 GMT
Cut myself thinking she is better than Alchemist
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Post by nebiros✪NFS on Feb 9, 2017 6:11:13 GMT
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Post by Topspin on Feb 9, 2017 6:23:31 GMT
If your Alchemist has Lucidity, it will have an early advantage against Oceanus, Taskmistress and Captivator. (Same with any of the other heroes that can learn Lucidity.)
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Post by razor on Feb 9, 2017 14:11:08 GMT
I have a lvl 4 VS with mass charm and lucidity .....an f2p deck and I kick TM, capti and Oceanus very often TM is good but any opponent with lucidity will destroy you And actually she is very very easy to counter without lucidity ...you just need a few weak neanders , a hero with sharp armour and lots of magic cards in your deck If sharp armour action activates and TM clones your magic cards .....fireworks
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Post by icezaius on Feb 9, 2017 15:58:14 GMT
My lvl 3 alchemist wins probably 80% or better against Oceanus. With Lucidity she kinda dominates Oceanus, TM, and Cap. Everyone talks about Alchemist needing the right deck, but I think that's a little overblown. It may require more tweaking than an Oceanus or VS deck, but Im f2p and haven't had trouble making her work with the standard cards and melds.
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