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Post by BK✦Singing on Feb 1, 2017 8:28:26 GMT
Hi all,
I am defeated in the dice game with IGG. I have spent like close to 1M GP on my VS, so far only got Protection 7 and Entrap 4. I start to wonder, maybe I did something wrong, maybe there is a "supposed" way of rolling talents?
I usually get about 15-20k GP everyday through raiding, immediately used for talents. I also open all guild war mails and sell all unused heroes and GP cards per month. My target is any thing among GT, Mass Charm and Lucidity. I've got none. I only refresh 1 slot at a time until I get what I wanted. I got Protection 7 very early on, so most of the GPs are wasted on the 2nd slot. I haven't really touched the 3rd slot yet.
Looking at decks I encountered in arena and tournament, those 3 talents are almost everywhere. Is 1M+ GP per ideal talent a fair price?
Sorry I'm asking this stupid question. Can anybody share his/her own experience?
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Post by spizz0 on Feb 1, 2017 9:12:54 GMT
I usually spend 200k on each talent in order to get them to lv.9 granted asap. Then I slowly seek for the talents I want. In this way you will easily get something like Flashfeast 9 and Divine Shield / Freezing Dance which are still decent talents to make the hero usable. I'd not rage-spend tons of glory on just a single talent forgetting about the others
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Post by razor on Feb 1, 2017 12:51:54 GMT
Yup .....needs a lot of grinding With my VS.... I got nothing good initially and spent tons and tons of glory before I got lucky and rolled mass charm and lucidity on two consecutive days
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Post by .ruby. on Feb 1, 2017 14:48:18 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2017 16:15:09 GMT
Mass Charm and Lucidity might be very hard to get, but GT and Protection 9+ shouldn't take too long.
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Post by BlackTone on Feb 1, 2017 16:57:46 GMT
There is no secret to it, just gotta grind it out and get lucky. Glory requirements for reference.
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Post by tanisomsford on Feb 1, 2017 16:58:11 GMT
I generally don't roll for a talent I want until I can drop a quarter million in one go. I am probably wrong with this method, but it just kind of "feels" in my gut that IGG's RNG tends to get better as you are in a long chain of rolling vs doing one or two refreshes at a time.
I haven't rolled Lucidity on my alchemist or VS yet, but I've never had to spend more than the base 200k for lv9, then an extra 100-200k for GT, DS, entrap or my Mass Charm.
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Post by tanisomsford on Feb 1, 2017 17:20:29 GMT
Hi all, I am defeated in the dice game with IGG. I have spent like close to 1M GP on my VS, so far only got Protection 7 and Entrap 4. I start to wonder, maybe I did something wrong, maybe there is a "supposed" way of rolling talents? I usually get about 15-20k GP everyday through raiding, immediately used for talents. I also open all guild war mails and sell all unused heroes and GP cards per month. My target is any thing among GT, Mass Charm and Lucidity. I've got none. I only refresh 1 slot at a time until I get what I wanted. I got Protection 7 very early on, so most of the GPs are wasted on the 2nd slot. I haven't really touched the 3rd slot yet. Looking at decks I encountered in arena and tournament, those 3 talents are almost everywhere. Is 1M+ GP per ideal talent a fair price? Sorry I'm asking this stupid question. Can anybody share his/her own experience? FWIW, and many will disagree with me here, but I personally spend a Crap ton more glory on runes for XP than talents. What I've found, is runes can make more of a Win/Loss difference than most talents ( obvious exceptions are lucidity, and GT/DS). I've even tracked numbers on it and they tend to be very consistent. For example, with that million glory you spent to get those two talents, you would have been able to get a HasteV rune from scratch to level 7. On the creature side, that same glory would've got your sacrifice rune, or vitality rune straight from scratch to lv9. Of course, the downside is only three of my heroes have any super talents, and most of my heroes are still sitting at lv7-9 levels to be "good enough" for guild war days. To each his own, but I only spend bazaar glory and guild war glory on heroes, and daily tourney mall, guild mall, and raid glory on runes. This is only an "alternative" way of using your glory, there's no wrong way to spend glory really, but your million to get what you have isn't the worst story I've heard. Some of the top seeds here have told horror stories of spending millions, not million, just to roll lucidity.
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Post by BK✦Singing on Feb 1, 2017 19:37:04 GMT
Thank you all very much for helping out. I usually spend 200k on each talent in order to get them to lv.9 granted asap. Then I slowly seek for the talents I want. In this way you will easily get something like Flashfeast 9 and Divine Shield / Freezing Dance which are still decent talents to make the hero usable. I'd not rage-spend tons of glory on just a single talent forgetting about the others Yes that's pretty much what I did, except the last part . Thanks for reminding! I focused on 1 slot also because I had impression that ludicity comes only after "gauranteed lv10 skill", so I thought nevertheless need to pour tons of GP in one slot. Now with the confirmation from BlackTone , I know I made a mistake. I got nothing good initially and spent tons and tons of glory before I got lucky and rolled mass charm and lucidity on two consecutive days Hehe that's the situation I had when rolling battlecry, war hungry and berserk on Odin. There was about a month's grind without anything, then suddenly all come in in the same day... There is no secret to it, just gotta grind it out and get lucky. Glory requirements for reference. Thank you for this info. I had wrong impression before that there is a "gauranteed lv10" level. Now I realized that I misunderstood this post. I searched again in this forum and confirmed that 2k GP is the highest. Thank you! I generally don't roll for a talent I want until I can drop a quarter million in one go. I am probably wrong with this method, but it just kind of "feels" in my gut that IGG's RNG tends to get better as you are in a long chain of rolling vs doing one or two refreshes at a time. I haven't rolled Lucidity on my alchemist or VS yet, but I've never had to spend more than the base 200k for lv9, then an extra 100-200k for GT, DS, entrap or my Mass Charm. I agree with you about the RNG (everytime people bashing IGG's RNG I'll join). It is very evidental to me, that the # distribution, more specifically the vertical distribution of first few #s cross different draws, are very biased to small ones. It also explains why those dodge & rebirth behave 3x better than they are supposed to be. Level 9 is something based on your total investment, so it is not hard at all. Last month, I had first rolled entrap, tried a few days and then picked fleshfeast 9. I didn't like fleshfeast that much, for it only benefits the first few creatures and most cases they either don't need that much of a "feast", or they are not that critical (like a sac PD). So I switched again to DS. Well I have to say magic is really unpopular these days, In all my battles I watch in week's time, I never see DS making any differences. So I eventually switched back to entrap. So it is not that I haven't got any "good" talents, but the trio, GT, Ludicity & Mass, they never showed up.
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Post by BK✦GamerGurl33 on Feb 1, 2017 22:48:29 GMT
I generally don't roll for a talent I want until I can drop a quarter million in one go. I am probably wrong with this method, but it just kind of "feels" in my gut that IGG's RNG tends to get better as you are in a long chain of rolling vs doing one or two refreshes at a time. I haven't rolled Lucidity on my alchemist or VS yet, but I've never had to spend more than the base 200k for lv9, then an extra 100-200k for GT, DS, entrap or my Mass Charm. It seems like overall that IGG's "RNG" tends to give you higher or more/better 'whatever' you're drawing for, if you do a lot of draws consecutively, like more 4*/5* cards with 100+ coupons drawn at once. Our guild has been tracking the coupon thing for about 1 1/2 years and it seems to prove out that drawing 100+ at a time works for most players. As far as talents go, I usually don't like to spend more than 20k or so glory at once when refreshing talents, except with a brand new hero. Often it seems like IGG will have a 'talent of the day', meaning that sometimes I might refresh 5 times and get the exact same talent at the same level, 3 out of of the 5 times. Since it's not a talent I want to keep, I'll usually just quit at that point, and then try again on a different day. Also like others ITT have said, sometimes I'll keep trying for something like Protection or War Hungry or whatever, and then all of a sudden one day there it is. Very hard to predict when it might show up. On my main account, I don't need any more 4* hero shards, so all my guild points are redeemed for gold, glory, and Chamber mats. Every time I buy 2500 glory, I immediately refresh one of my 5* heroes talents. I had been concentrating on Armageddon, my main hero, and soon after getting to the guaranteed Lvl 9 and then the 2000 glory refresh cost, I rolled Entrap 4 on him. Now since I've got VS though, I'm focusing on her. Got a long way to go though. Currently at Lvl 3, she has Neander Stamina 7, Fleshfeast 7, and Firestorm 6.
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Post by razor on Feb 2, 2017 4:33:05 GMT
There is no garuntee of anything
As I said .....I spent tons and tons of GP and suddenly I drew lucidity and mass charm on two consecutive days
But my luck with runes is absolutely crappy ...must have spent millions here too but I m lvl 80 and still not a single sac 5 rune ...the only 5* runes are safeguard, rage boost and neander vigour...not even a 5* hero vigour
So you can see .....no garuntee of anything ...just because u spent millions doesn't mean you are bound to get anything good
The only trick is to never give up
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Post by razor on Feb 2, 2017 9:04:47 GMT
There is no garuntee of anything As I said .....I spent tons and tons of GP and suddenly I drew lucidity and mass charm on two consecutive days But my luck with runes is absolutely crappy ...must have spent millions here too but I m lvl 80 and still not a single sac 5 rune ...the only 5* runes are safeguard, rage boost and neander vigour...not even a 5* hero vigour So you can see .....no garuntee of anything ...just because u spent millions doesn't mean you are bound to get anything good The only trick is to never give up Updating my post ......i just drew my first sacrifice V rune
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Post by ℒ✰Deer on Feb 5, 2017 15:34:29 GMT
Have you ever had the feeling when you jus kept tapping on refresh and skipped the desired talent? Arrrgh
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Post by Yuna on Feb 5, 2017 16:21:40 GMT
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Post by tanisomsford on Feb 6, 2017 8:26:49 GMT
Have you ever had the feeling when you jus kept tapping on refresh and skipped the desired talent? Arrrgh I skip the occasional fat raid target, but NEVER a talent. If it was a super talent, I'd just cry
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Post by ℒ✰Deer on Feb 6, 2017 19:47:20 GMT
Lots of glory, ritual sacrifices, prayer and unending swearing. you've been there...you have, i can see
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Post by Snobofskie on Feb 7, 2017 14:40:27 GMT
Have you ever had the feeling when you jus kept tapping on refresh and skipped the desired talent? Arrrgh I do know that feeling! Clicked too fast out of frustration after wasting 500k gp. Finally had GT on my ocea and it was gone again.. Took me 1m+ gp to get it again
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Post by ℒ✰Deer on Feb 10, 2017 8:46:17 GMT
Have you ever had the feeling when you jus kept tapping on refresh and skipped the desired talent? Arrrgh I do know that feeling! Clicked too fast out of frustration after wasting 500k gp. Finally had GT on my ocea and it was gone again.. Took me 1m+ gp to get it again The thread question was 'what is the right way of rolling talents?' So we can all agree that the answer is: TAKE YOUR TIME AND DO IT SLOWLY! REALLY SLOWLY!
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Post by BK✦Singing on Feb 10, 2017 9:07:37 GMT
TAKE YOUR TIME AND DO IT SLOWLY! REALLY SLOWLY! Thank you so much! I'll make sure it is really slow.
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Post by Panderleaf on Mar 6, 2017 15:18:22 GMT
There is no secret to it, just gotta grind it out and get lucky. Glory requirements for reference. Does this mean we cannot get level 10? Also these numbers are for 5* heroes, right?
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Post by BlackTone on Mar 6, 2017 18:15:33 GMT
There is no secret to it, just gotta grind it out and get lucky. Glory requirements for reference. Does this mean we cannot get level 10? Also these numbers are for 5* heroes, right? That is correct, the highest guarantee you can get is the min level 9. Those numbers are for the 5 star hero rolls. Here are the ones for a 4 star hero, same number of rolls 1-3: 800 3-5: 1000 5-7: 1200 7-9: 1500 9+: 1800
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