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Post by rembrandt78 on Mar 8, 2017 14:45:41 GMT
How much time and resources would i need. . is it the same as a year ago? To finish in the top ten.
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Post by spizz0 on Mar 8, 2017 14:50:55 GMT
How much time and resources would i need. . is it the same as a year ago? To finish in the top ten. It depends on the rewards
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Post by Doomkin✪NFS on Mar 8, 2017 16:34:58 GMT
depends on how well you get points per win and how good the rewards are.. 200k.. 100k.. 50k..
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Post by rembrandt78 on Mar 9, 2017 1:39:50 GMT
If the rewards are good like aqua for som of the top ten or a new top tier crit. How much? Or if the rewards are poo. How many points
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Post by ZanderX10 on Mar 9, 2017 2:34:19 GMT
It varies. I spent 5k to rank 66 last sky arena. I also had 170% bonus. Rank 10 had about 4x as many points as me so it would have cost me 20k to rank there. Without the bonus ot would have been about 40-50k. And this last sky arena the rewards sucked. I just pushed for great mystic.
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Post by SquagglyCat on Mar 9, 2017 2:48:57 GMT
It varies. I spent 5k to rank 66 last sky arena. I also had 170% bonus. Rank 10 had about 4x as many points as me so it would have cost me 20k to rank there. Without the bonus ot would have been about 40-50k. And this last sky arena the rewards sucked. I just pushed for great mystic. You managed 66? Sweet. This past sky arena, I spent roughly 10k gems to rank (I believe) 42nd to get kitsune. I was decently far ahead of 50th place (about 80k points). I had a 30% bonus. Going for those top spots will surely be costly, but good news is druid seems to be gone from event rewards. That'll make s.a. significantly cheaper. Going from what zander said, with a reasonable 20-50% boost, I'm guessing maybe 40k gems? I don't remember my score, or top 10, so just a rough guess.
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Post by Sinister22✪NFS on Mar 9, 2017 6:03:16 GMT
I can go and rank in the top 100 with 5-8k gems but Id rather choose sleep.
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Post by barleylime on Mar 9, 2017 8:57:23 GMT
It varies. I spent 5k to rank 66 last sky arena. I also had 170% bonus. Rank 10 had about 4x as many points as me so it would have cost me 20k to rank there. Without the bonus ot would have been about 40-50k. And this last sky arena the rewards sucked. I just pushed for great mystic. Did you stay online to time your spend during the last hour? Playing 1 scroll every time you are pushed back to rank 67?
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Post by skatje on Mar 9, 2017 12:21:51 GMT
I can go and rank in the top 100 with 5-8k gems but Id rather choose sleep. :) "We will never sleep, 'cause sleep is for the weak"
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Post by ZanderX10 on Mar 9, 2017 13:26:16 GMT
It varies. I spent 5k to rank 66 last sky arena. I also had 170% bonus. Rank 10 had about 4x as many points as me so it would have cost me 20k to rank there. Without the bonus ot would have been about 40-50k. And this last sky arena the rewards sucked. I just pushed for great mystic. Did you stay online to time your spend during the last hour? Playing 1 scroll every time you are pushed back to rank 67? sort of. It was more so busy the last 25 minutes. Not the whole hour. But yes you DO have to play the last hour. In that short time, rank 66 went from 2mil to 5mil points.
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Post by Doomkin✪NFS on Mar 9, 2017 18:45:28 GMT
If you average 4k base points per win. To get to 5 mil thats 1250 wins. Which is 250 resets. Assuming you're on fever thats 125. Of course there are free tries but those are never fevered (except last hour of event) but I dont care enough to get the specific. So whatever the cost of a reset is, multiply that by 125 to give you an upper bounds. If you happen to have modifiers, you can save some.
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Post by ZanderX10 on Mar 9, 2017 19:05:41 GMT
Top 10 is usually in the ball park of 20,000,000 points if I remember correctly. At base 4,000 per attempt you can make about 1 mil points of you miss very few refreshes with free attempts. During fever hour with no bonuses other than fever, it takes about 3,000 gems per every 1,000,000 additional points. To hit top 10 you would have to spend about 60,000 gems total. This can be drastically reduced by bonus/rate up cards.
Take away: No rate up cards costs 3,000 gems per 1,000,000 points during fever bonus with 4,000 base (8,000 during bonus) per attempt.
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Post by tanisomsford on Mar 9, 2017 20:12:06 GMT
Top 10 is usually in the ball park of 20,000,000 points if I remember correctly. At base 4,000 per attempt you can make about 1 mil points of you miss very few refreshes with free attempts. During fever hour with no bonuses other than fever, it takes about 3,000 gems per every 1,000,000 additional points. To hit top 10 you would have to spend about 60,000 gems total. This can be drastically reduced by bonus/rate up cards. Take away: No rate up cards costs 3,000 gems per 1,000,000 points during fever bonus with 4,000 base (8,000 during bonus) per attempt. Sounds like you'd end up spending the 60k still if you spend 30k to get some rate up cards and cut your SA spending as a result. Getting the bonus card by spending gems you'd spend to win the event anyway seems like a reasonable plan.
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Post by ℒ✰Deer on Apr 27, 2017 8:49:34 GMT
This time I will go for it! My goal is Kumiho for which I will have to be ranked between 51-65. The recent one is over the weekend so not having proper sleep it's not a problem. And I am a bad sleeper anyway!
I hoping to spend less than 10K but I don't have any of the rate up cards.So we'll see. Once, it's over I will come back with my feedback.
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Post by towelie on Apr 27, 2017 16:26:52 GMT
Spent around 5k gems during fever for rank around 100. Was getting around 9.5k points with 99% win. Good luck!
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Post by ℒ✰Deer on Apr 27, 2017 16:40:43 GMT
One question: how do you predict when the fever is coming?
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Post by spizz0 on Apr 27, 2017 16:45:17 GMT
One question: how do you predict when the fever is coming? You don't Except for the last hour (right?) when there is always fever on
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Post by NFS✪Grandfather on Apr 27, 2017 18:04:31 GMT
I think you may need a bit more than 10k...it depends how hard others are comiting to that rank also it depends how much fame you get per win at heroic also if you have fame bonus card/s or not...i hope im wrong but it mat happen thar you could need more than 10k there is many factors really which can be involved in gem spending for some specific rank in top 100
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Post by Koloi on Apr 27, 2017 18:29:46 GMT
I also think its more than 10k. Especially with no bonus card.
I also consider to go for it. On the other hand, there maybe AB comes around soon. I would go for Kumiho or kitsune, need both of them for melding. Transmutation doesnt really work out for me with them.
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Post by japoon on Apr 28, 2017 7:32:13 GMT
How many gems need for getting the 3000k Fames rewards 10 Shards of Druidess??
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Post by spizz0 on Apr 28, 2017 7:38:40 GMT
How many gems need for getting the 3000k Fames rewards 10 Shards of Druidess?? It depends on how many points you gain for each victory
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Post by smash00 on Apr 28, 2017 8:24:32 GMT
I also think its more than 10k. Especially with no bonus card. I also consider to go for it. On the other hand, there maybe AB comes around soon. I would go for Kumiho or kitsune, need both of them for melding. Transmutation doesnt really work out for me with them. Is it not cheaper to get them from 3rd mine?
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Post by NFS✪Grandfather on Apr 28, 2017 8:35:30 GMT
I also think its more than 10k. Especially with no bonus card. I also consider to go for it. On the other hand, there maybe AB comes around soon. I would go for Kumiho or kitsune, need both of them for melding. Transmutation doesnt really work out for me with them. Is it not cheaper to get them from 3rd mine? Not really. There is no guarantee that you could get any of them by spending less that 10k gems,its more factor of luck,it may happen that some of them drop just after 1st chest in 3rd mine but i doubt you will be that lucky
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Post by Koloi on Apr 28, 2017 8:36:42 GMT
Yeah,
I also do that. Its the cheapest way imho. But even so i do mines daily to first chest, it takes very long to get mutluple copies. So i am looking for other ways, to get copies of the sisters.
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Post by Koloi on Apr 28, 2017 8:45:33 GMT
Is it not cheaper to get them from 3rd mine? Not really. There is no guarantee that you could get any of them by spending less that 10k gems,its more factor of luck,it may happen that some of them drop just after 1st chest in 3rd mine but i doubt you will be that lucky Imho its cheaper if u do third mine first chest. Ofc u will spend more to finally complete both with shards. But u get a lot good stuff beside them like hippo, mystic, hero shards, ore and so on. About 40k should do the trick to get both from third mine. Maybe u have to use some omnis, but still. If u want both from sky Arena, lets say it cost 20k. U still only got them. I would value the stuff u will get beside the duo from third mine, higher than the difference of 20k. So imho its cheaper, but a grind.
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Post by NFS✪Grandfather on Apr 28, 2017 10:23:46 GMT
Not really. There is no guarantee that you could get any of them by spending less that 10k gems,its more factor of luck,it may happen that some of them drop just after 1st chest in 3rd mine but i doubt you will be that lucky Imho its cheaper if u do third mine first chest. Ofc u will spend more to finally complete both with shards. But u get a lot good stuff beside them like hippo, mystic, hero shards, ore and so on. About 40k should do the trick to get both from third mine. Maybe u have to use some omnis, but still. If u want both from sky Arena, lets say it cost 20k. U still only got them. I would value the stuff u will get beside the duo from third mine, higher than the difference of 20k. So imho its cheaper, but a grind. Fair point. But also nothing guarantee you that even after those 40k you will get them,Sky is certain thing about that.I mean when you have enough gems you can do anything you like and on the way you like but if you are limited to choice between Sky Kitsune/Kumiho or mine Kitusne/Kumiho i would chose Sky anytime,i dont put that much trust in mines
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Post by japoon on Apr 28, 2017 10:26:14 GMT
Is it not cheaper to get them from 3rd mine? Not really. There is no guarantee that you could get any of them by spending less that 10k gems,its more factor of luck,it may happen that some of them drop just after 1st chest in 3rd mine but i doubt you will be that lucky As I know, the chest of 3rd doesnt drop Druidess Shard. I had opened many chests in my various Account but never drop even a single Druidess Shard. I see there is reward of 10 Druidess Shards for 3000k Fames and I just wonder how many gems should I spent in order to get the shards. We need to evaluate whether it is reasonable to do it.
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Post by NFS✪Grandfather on Apr 28, 2017 10:39:40 GMT
Not really. There is no guarantee that you could get any of them by spending less that 10k gems,its more factor of luck,it may happen that some of them drop just after 1st chest in 3rd mine but i doubt you will be that lucky As I know, the chest of 3rd doesnt drop Druidess Shard. I had opened many chests in my various Account but never drop even a single Druidess Shard. I see there is reward of 10 Druidess Shards for 3000k Fames and I just wonder how many gems should I spent in order to get the shards. We need to evaluate whether it is reasonable to do it. No one said here that Shemale drops from chests at mine,we were speaking about Kitsine/Kumiho drops in mine,i know you trolled me probably but i will bait Speaking of that,its unreasonable to go for those 10 shards it over spend,especialy is you dont have her at all,even if you do still that amount of gems needed to spend in Sky for them is way to much by my thought.
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Post by spizz0 on Apr 28, 2017 10:46:46 GMT
I see there is reward of 10 Druidess Shards for 3000k Fames and I just wonder how many gems should I spent in order to get the shards. We need to evaluate whether it is reasonable to do it. a) Assuming that you won't miss any, you will have 12 free waves every day. So it's 12*4 = 48 free waves per 4 day, which imply 48*5 = 240 free scrolls in total. b) Assuming that you earn 5000 points/victory and 1000/loss, with a win rate of 95% you will earn 0.95*5000 + 0.05*1000 = 4800 points/scroll. c) Now assume that, of all your 240 attempts, 10% of them are under free fever (and you know how to trigger it). Fever should give you 2x points, so 24 times you will earn 2*4800 points per scroll while the remaining 216 you will gain just 4800. Sum up the two: 24*2*4800 + 216*4800 = 1,267,200 FREE points in total. d) You need 3,000,000. --> You will have to "buy" 3,000,000 - 1,267,200 = 1,732,800 points. Of course, you want to buy the extra scrolls while fever is on. e) So, since you will gain 2*4800 = 9600 points per scroll ---> 1,732,800/9600 = 180.5 --> 185 (because you can buy 5 scrolls at a time). f) 185 / 5 = 37. The first refresh costs 120 gems, I don't know about the further ones unfortunately. You will have to do some further math from here. If the price is always the same then 120*37 = 4440 gems. So around 4000-5000 gems in total.
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Post by NFS✪Grandfather on Apr 28, 2017 10:55:59 GMT
I see there is reward of 10 Druidess Shards for 3000k Fames and I just wonder how many gems should I spent in order to get the shards. We need to evaluate whether it is reasonable to do it. a) Assuming that you won't miss any, you will have 12 free waves every day. So it's 12*4 = 48 free waves per 4 day, which imply 48*5 = 240 free scrolls in total. b) Assuming that you earn 5000 points/victory and 1000/loss, with a win rate of 95% you will earn 0.95*5000 + 0.05*1000 = 4800 points/scroll. c) Now assume that, of all your 240 attempts, 10% of them are under free fever (and you know how to trigger it). Fever should give you 2x points, so 24 times you will earn 2*4800 points per scroll while the remaining 216 you will gain just 4800. Sum up the two: 24*2*4800 + 216*4800 = 1,267,200 FREE points in total. d) You need 3,000,000. --> You will have to "buy" 3,000,000 - 1,267,200 = 1,732,800 points. Of course, you want to buy the extra scrolls while fever is on. e) So, since you will gain 2*4800 = 9600 points per scroll ---> 1,732,800/9600 = 180.5 --> 185 (because you can buy 5 scrolls at a time). f) 185 / 5 = 37. The first refresh costs 120 gems, I don't know about the further ones unfortunately. You will have to do some further math from here. WOW! A+ for you mister
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