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Post by theonehundred on Mar 30, 2017 15:40:18 GMT
If you had to choose between the two, which would you go for?
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Post by illuminatimaster on Mar 30, 2017 15:49:17 GMT
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Post by Fwk*y2trips on Mar 30, 2017 16:18:30 GMT
if you don't already have and use vile, consider vile over both of them.
answering the question exactly as presented, i'd go Oceanus.
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Post by icyfist on Mar 30, 2017 16:50:25 GMT
I like how you threw VS in there...I picked Songstress as my first 5* hero, am pretty happy with her. Originally wanted Alchemist, but the Vitality5 Grimoir Nerf changed my mind. Oceanus is for people that have substandard decks that can't cut it. Not judging anyone that picks Oceanus, just stating the truth. Oceanus gives players with worse cards an opportunity to win. I like the idea behind SA, also considered getting her. I feel like she falls flat without large amounts of direct damage to fully prepare opponents' cards to be removed from play. I am F2P so I do not have much access to DD cards. Of course, if one has access to the high-end DD cards, one would also have access to higher-tier 5* heroes, namely Druidess. Which makes SA obsolete. For Ore heroes, F2P really only have three solid options: Vile Songstress, Oceanus, or Alchemist. P2W, pick whatever tickles your fancy...even Blademaster level 8+ will cut down strong cards en mass.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2017 16:55:21 GMT
That's depend Oceanus is good even in lv 3-4, but SA need to be higher level so it's up to you how much you can level them up.
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Post by Koloi on Mar 30, 2017 17:34:05 GMT
Oceanus is for people that have substandard decks that can't cut it. Not judging anyone that picks Oceanus, just stating the truth. Oceanus gives players with worse cards an opportunity to win. No offense, but u can say pretty much the same about VS. Disabling the powerful cards of ur enemy plus the ability to get ludicity, give u a good chance to win against an Oceanus deck WITH Creatures that make the cut.
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Post by icyfist on Mar 30, 2017 17:52:58 GMT
Oceanus is for people that have substandard decks that can't cut it. Not judging anyone that picks Oceanus, just stating the truth. Oceanus gives players with worse cards an opportunity to win. No offense, but u can say pretty much the same about VS. Disabling the powerful cards of ur enemy plus the ability to get ludicity, give u a good chance to win against an Oceanus deck WITH Creatures that make the cut. Not trying to get in a pissing match, bro. VS does DISABLE enemy cards. VS does not GIVE me the USE of cards that I DO NOT HAVE. Huge difference there. If I beat you with my VS, I will have beaten you SOLELY with cards that I own, not with the great cards that YOU have worked for. Ya dig?
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Post by Koloi on Mar 30, 2017 18:58:39 GMT
No offense, but u can say pretty much the same about VS. Disabling the powerful cards of ur enemy plus the ability to get ludicity, give u a good chance to win against an Oceanus deck WITH Creatures that make the cut. Not trying to get in a pissing match, bro. VS does DISABLE enemy cards. VS does not GIVE me the USE of cards that I DO NOT HAVE. Huge difference there. If I beat you with my VS, I will have beaten you SOLELY with cards that I own, not with the great cards that YOU have worked for. Ya dig? True, but these cards of urs can be s*** , since they can kill powerful cards which are disabled. I just pointed out, that VS does the same what Oceanus does. Give u a good chance to win against more powerful Decks. Its just a different way. No need to get angry, bro.
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Post by xychant on Mar 30, 2017 19:34:39 GMT
Not trying to get in a pissing match, bro. VS does DISABLE enemy cards. VS does not GIVE me the USE of cards that I DO NOT HAVE. Huge difference there. If I beat you with my VS, I will have beaten you SOLELY with cards that I own, not with the great cards that YOU have worked for. Ya dig? True, but these cards of urs can be s*** , since they can kill powerful cards which are disabled. I just pointed out, that VS does the same what Oceanus does. Give u a good chance to win against more powerful Decks. Its just a different way. No need to get angry, bro. he was asking for oceanus or sa no vs. everyone on that forum knows that vs is currently rly strong with access to lucity and 3creatur disabling on lvl4. nonless there are people who o purpose dont want vs. cause i for myself got oceanus cause i had 45 shards already and he is 100 funnier to play then vs. vs fights are booring to watch you see your creatures are disabled and do nothing, while the fight lasts 50rounds plus and it comes down to health race. btw. the vitality grimoire nerf was only a one time thing. it works since 3 month or so again.
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Post by icyfist on Mar 30, 2017 20:03:15 GMT
Not trying to get in a pissing match, bro. VS does DISABLE enemy cards. VS does not GIVE me the USE of cards that I DO NOT HAVE. Huge difference there. If I beat you with my VS, I will have beaten you SOLELY with cards that I own, not with the great cards that YOU have worked for. Ya dig? True, but these cards of urs can be s*** , since they can kill powerful cards which are disabled. I just pointed out, that VS does the same what Oceanus does. Give u a good chance to win against more powerful Decks. Its just a different way. No need to get angry, bro. So, by that logic, Odin and Thor SURELY must be the most OP Ore mall heroes because every time their rage skill activates, is possible to disable EVERY enemy card, right? I don't even care about VS disabling skill...I got her to continue getting Vitality5 runes. Her rage skill could be "give a noogie to all the geeks" as long as I can get those Vitality5 runes. You wanna know why my F2P deck is superior to most F2P? Not because of VS...it is because I have put in a lot of time and energy making it that way. I view VS as a Next-Level Wight, I do great with him, too. Protection 9 is a lot cooler than Mortii Aura 8 though.
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Post by theonehundred on Mar 30, 2017 20:11:01 GMT
which is better at level 5, sa or oceanus, for same deck?
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Post by RH*EvildreamS on Mar 30, 2017 20:24:00 GMT
which is better at level 5, sa or oceanus, for same deck? Sa as anyone knows it needs lvl7 to be at a good lvl even it have lot of ways to counter her most common alice. Si you have already a sa, just keep going for her shes very very decent heroe if anyone have a lvl 4 or above u have to skip lvl5 straight to 6 then 7. Oceanus was and still a heroe ho lot of poeple like inculding me but sa way better hands down.
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Post by theonehundred on Mar 30, 2017 20:34:46 GMT
which is better at level 5, sa or oceanus, for same deck? Sa as anyone knows it needs lvl7 to be at a good lvl even it have lot of ways to counter her most common alice. Si you have already a sa, just keep going for her shes very very decent heroe if anyone have a lvl 4 or above u have to skip lvl5 straight to 6 then 7. Oceanus was and still a heroe ho lot of poeple like inculding me but sa way better hands down. that did not answer the question.
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Post by ℒ✰Deer on Mar 30, 2017 20:46:00 GMT
True, but these cards of urs can be s*** , since they can kill powerful cards which are disabled. I just pointed out, that VS does the same what Oceanus does. Give u a good chance to win against more powerful Decks. Its just a different way. No need to get angry, bro. So, by that logic, Odin and Thor SURELY must be the most OP Ore mall heroes because every time their rage skill activates, is possible to disable EVERY enemy card, right? I don't even care about VS disabling skill...I got her to continue getting Vitality5 runes. Her rage skill could be "give a noogie to all the geeks" as long as I can get those Vitality5 runes. You wanna know why my F2P deck is superior to most F2P? Not because of VS...it is because I have put in a lot of time and energy making it that way. I view VS as a Next-Level Wight, I do great with him, too. Protection 9 is a lot cooler than Mortii Aura 8 though. Guys, Just take it easy please. There is no need to cut each other throat over an argument especially when it is not related to the subject.
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Post by ℒ✰Deer on Mar 30, 2017 20:57:53 GMT
which is better at level 5, sa or oceanus, for same deck? It's a tricky question. I think at level 5, it all depends on the deck you have. If you have a strong deck than it is SA if not Oceanus. But if you thinking of the fuuture and want to improve by going up higher level, like 7 and over it's SA by all means. That's my opinion.
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Post by theonehundred on Mar 30, 2017 21:01:37 GMT
I have weak deck.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2017 23:33:42 GMT
Than better get Oceanus now, later when you have better cards work for another hero. I seen lv 100+ players with octavus etc and still use Oceanus. Hope this clear your mind ☺.
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Post by Koloi on Mar 31, 2017 1:30:59 GMT
Just take it easy please. There is no need to cut each other throat over an argument especially when it is not related to the subject. Dunno what u are taking about. Was relaxed the whole conversation. But btt. Like already pointed out, u would need a long time to make SA really strong. I dont have her, but if i face her low level, i beat her most of the time. Most people say she needs level 7 to be strong. I also think its better to go with Oceanus or even VS(i know u didnt ask for) first. Since u can make them strong a lot faster. Both are also helping u out if ur deck isnt that strong. I think u are fine, when u have them at lvl 4-5. So u are able to achieve some things faster in the game like trials 120, higher in tourney and so on. Which also gives u rewards, that makes u stronger overall.(5*heroe shards, gems etc.) If u go for SA u can achieve that too, but it will take most likely longer, especially if u have a weak deck anyways. The upside for SA is, if u have her on high level she is kind of Top Tier Hero, which also some top tourney players are using.
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Post by asgarth1980 on Mar 31, 2017 1:52:13 GMT
If u asking for pvp... sa or vs is definitely better than oceanus because solely u have chance to get lucidity on vs or sa and this skill totally disable oceanus for 3 rages... that is huge... i would say vs and sa are equally strong... each has own merits... but defnitely oceanus is beneath these 2.. in ore mall the best u could get is either vs or sa....... ofcourse neither are really top of the top... druidy is still the best todate with warboy close behind...
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Post by rembrandt78 on Mar 31, 2017 4:31:21 GMT
SA if u have time and resources to lvl up fast I.e. 2-3 months. Ocean if you need the edge right now and don't have top tier cards. I personally would go VS but given t choose SA.
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Post by ZanderX10 on Mar 31, 2017 5:02:29 GMT
I went for oceanus first. Just bow Lvling vile. I still use oceanus as my main as only a few of my arena opponents have lucidity. I have a pretty decent deck (enough to stay competitive in top 10) and all he does is add more raw power to my cards in play. That being said, it's a toss up between the two. Oceanus has the ability to deal much more consistent dmg than sa by not only cloning the highest costing enemy creature, but placing them far right, enabling it to deal it's direct dmg skill multiple times in between casts by oceanus. It is also helpful getting a fresh crit when yours are locked down by vile. Then again, they are vile bait at the far right and if you are fighting a weak opponent, the clone offers little to no help at all. Sa would in turn deal her dmg unbiased to the enemies deck power. She also can offer some much needed offense when your crits are locked out by vile. The biggest factor for me picking between the two is lucidity. Lucidity cripples oceanus and doesn't touch sa. As a current oceanus player, I want sa. I do however NOT regret going for oceanus.
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Post by monkeylord on Apr 1, 2017 3:44:26 GMT
I'd totally go for a second or third vile over sa
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Post by ℒ✰Deer on Apr 1, 2017 5:18:47 GMT
I do agree with you that VS is better than SA but please no offence, after seeing the top tournament decks with three druidess...I don't know. It looks kinda boring. I would personally rather have a different hero even it's weaker.
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Post by ZanderX10 on Apr 1, 2017 6:09:33 GMT
Idk what your piggy situation is but if you got them you should concidering going sa since they drop shards.
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Post by ℒ✰Deer on Apr 1, 2017 21:55:57 GMT
Definitely I will go for SA after I received the 80 shards though it will take time.
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Post by icezaius on Apr 1, 2017 22:29:16 GMT
Alchemist is more fun than any of these options. You should get her, she's the bees knees!
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