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Post by tanisomsford on Apr 13, 2017 17:17:21 GMT
So this is the thought process "hey fr is coming...oh great!... You know I have this great idea! Let's just create some alts and make a guild of ours just to participate at fr, cause lol who wants a real fight...woohoo! We are all cowards!" To the players who are doing this...don't stop, you are doing God's work. 7 members of my guild deleted the game when I broke them the news of empty guilds and many won't play anymore. My guild is destroyed now...5 months of hard work and non stop grinding gone into waste. I am done with this game. I feel you. This is very upsetting. This alt thing has actually changed my view on deck heroes to be honest, as a competitive multiplayer game. We just broke the top 50 in guild war yesterday and also had a mini party of sorts, but now all the enthusiasm has died of. A lot of people here are upset about empty guilds added, and I get that. But, just curious, how many empty guilds are there registered? Do we actually know? Perhaps, Is this similar to the "poison Halloween" candy story, where someone thought about it, it made sense, maybe happened once, and forever everyone was scared of it? Or is this actually a real problem, where 10, 20, even 30 guilds are these ghost guilds?
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Post by tanisomsford on Apr 13, 2017 17:19:07 GMT
When I was looking in pillars it's said that owned by ( Monster Legion) how's that possible? Please cheek the FR map All of this basic stuff is actually explained in the help screen of the event. It's poorly worded, do you have to reread it a couple times over. But it answers the vast majority of questions and gives solid ideas for strategy.
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Post by ZanderX10 on Apr 13, 2017 17:21:45 GMT
My guild always ranked 60-80 in every GW. But my guild couldn't join the FW even 1 time. are you the only person in your guild? Anytime I attacked it I only saw you.
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Post by ℒ✰Deer on Apr 13, 2017 17:30:38 GMT
My guild always ranked 60-80 in every GW. But my guild couldn't join the FW even 1 time. are you the only person in your guild? Anytime I attacked it I only saw you. Because you have been Japooned!!! He is everywher!!!
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Post by Koloi on Apr 13, 2017 17:46:18 GMT
I feel you. This is very upsetting. This alt thing has actually changed my view on deck heroes to be honest, as a competitive multiplayer game. We just broke the top 50 in guild war yesterday and also had a mini party of sorts, but now all the enthusiasm has died of. A lot of people here are upset about empty guilds added, and I get that. But, just curious, how many empty guilds are there registered? Do we actually know? Perhaps, Is this similar to the "poison Halloween" candy story, where someone thought about it, it made sense, maybe happened once, and forever everyone was scared of it? Or is this actually a real problem, where 10, 20, even 30 guilds are these ghost guilds? Actually, there is a guy from a well known top guild in my Arena. We have a back to back fight about the non whale Topspot for a while now. A few weeks ago he added me and asked me if would like to join them. I didnt, because i like were i am at, but i asked about FR. He loled and said they would have more then 30 guilds ready, i shouldnt worry about that. This doesnt mean for sure, they registered all of them. But i doubt they only registered their Main guild.
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Post by Yuna on Apr 13, 2017 20:05:52 GMT
The new rule doesnt stop people from filling up fr with inactive alt guilds. So real people are being bumped by empty energy guilds, and by empty i mean populated by alt accts. Thats the problem. Im curious to count the number of real guilds that participate. But there's no way to prevent that from happening that wouldn't be a logistical nightmare for IGG. Even if you link Fortress Raid participation to Guild War results, people can still rank up their alt guilds if they're dedicated enough.
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Post by monkeylord on Apr 13, 2017 20:31:24 GMT
The new rule doesnt stop people from filling up fr with inactive alt guilds. So real people are being bumped by empty energy guilds, and by empty i mean populated by alt accts. Thats the problem. Im curious to count the number of real guilds that participate. But there's no way to prevent that from happening that wouldn't be a logistical nightmare for IGG. Even if you link Fortress Raid participation to Guild War results, people can still rank up their alt guilds if they're dedicated enough. logistical nightmare? you just automate it. you could even make the system better and give fr registration points to individual players based on individual guild war results. then a guild could collectively spend them on registration. eliminate the dumb 300,000 rule altogether. that rule only benefits and encourages those who run bots and slave guilds
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Post by Yuna on Apr 13, 2017 20:32:46 GMT
But there's no way to prevent that from happening that wouldn't be a logistical nightmare for IGG. Even if you link Fortress Raid participation to Guild War results, people can still rank up their alt guilds if they're dedicated enough. logistical nightmare? you just automate it. you could even make the system better and give fr registration points to individual players based on individual guild war results. then a guild could collectively spend them on registration. eliminate the dumb 300,000 rule altogether. that rule only benefits and encourages those who run bots and slave guilds I've already detailed why automatic guild seeding does not work and is nowhere near accurate. The logistical nightmare would be manual seeding. Any attempt at automatic seeding would be arbitrary and wildly inaccurate.
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Post by monkeylord on Apr 13, 2017 21:00:37 GMT
logistical nightmare? you just automate it. you could even make the system better and give fr registration points to individual players based on individual guild war results. then a guild could collectively spend them on registration. eliminate the dumb 300,000 rule altogether. that rule only benefits and encourages those who run bots and slave guilds I've already detailed why automatic guild seeding does not work and is nowhere near accurate. The logistical nightmare would be manual seeding. Any attempt at automatic seeding would be arbitrary and wildly inaccurate. It isn't arbitrary if you properly incentivize the ranking system and let players earn their rank. If you do, the strongest and most active guilds rise to the top.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2017 21:28:26 GMT
I have a important question, can the guild members attack by themselves or need the command from guild master and capitan?? Anyone with previous FR experience please enlightening us!!
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Post by monkeylord on Apr 13, 2017 21:35:11 GMT
I have a important question, can the guild members attack by themselves or need the command from guild master and capitan?? Anyone with previous FR experience please enlightening us!! You can attack by yourself, but its not a bad idea to coordinate with the rest of your guild.
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Post by Yuna on Apr 13, 2017 21:40:59 GMT
I've already detailed why automatic guild seeding does not work and is nowhere near accurate. The logistical nightmare would be manual seeding. Any attempt at automatic seeding would be arbitrary and wildly inaccurate. It isn't arbitrary if you properly incentivize the ranking system and let players earn their rank. If you do, the strongest and most active guilds rise to the top. But the entire point of a seeding system would be so that you don't have to be in "the top" to participate (because you're also suggesting we have multiple "brackets", i.e. multiple instance of FR at the same time). Which defeats the entire point of seeding by GW results. Unless we still limit the number of available slots.
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Post by Yuna on Apr 13, 2017 21:41:42 GMT
I have a important question, can the guild members attack by themselves or need the command from guild master and capitan?? Anyone with previous FR experience please enlightening us!! You can, but you shouldn't. That's a good way to get kicked out mid-FR if you refuse to listen to the team and instead act out on your own at the expense of your guildmates.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2017 21:41:57 GMT
I have a important question, can the guild members attack by themselves or need the command from guild master and capitan?? Anyone with previous FR experience please enlightening us!! You can attack by yourself, but its not a bad idea to coordinate with the rest of your guild. I'm the guild master, so my members can attack by themselves freely following me or I have to give them my command?
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Post by monkeylord on Apr 13, 2017 21:45:06 GMT
You can attack by yourself, but its not a bad idea to coordinate with the rest of your guild. I'm the guild master, so my members can attack by themselves freely following me or I have to give them my command? they can attack by themselves. gm and captains have two main duties, They can release a territory, and they can use accumulated points to add slots to a territory or buy a shield for temporary defense.
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Post by parth12008 on Apr 13, 2017 22:18:17 GMT
It is not true about empty guilds IMO, We are a big family and have many guilds, Three of our guilds joined FR, but none of them were empty, All of them were having at least 48 members, our main guild is in Top 12 usually in GW, We had 20 members online at reset to not miss the FR ( I know only captains/GM can apply but it was just hype). One of our guild is full of new players who are weak but they also got the chance to play due to our hard work. How can empty guilds get 300K contribution? It must have been filled with random people at some time, And i feel bad for those who missed FR but it is not the end of the world, our guild had missed the first more rewarding FR and we still played the game the way we were used to play ( I had quit the game for 2 months but i came back due to FR and started enjoying the game again). And 70% members of our guild are FTPs
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Post by BlackTone on Apr 14, 2017 22:43:59 GMT
It is not true about empty guilds IMO, We are a big family and have many guilds, Three of our guilds joined FR, but none of them were empty, All of them were having at least 48 members, our main guild is in Top 12 usually in GW, We had 20 members online at reset to not miss the FR ( I know only captains/GM can apply but it was just hype). One of our guild is full of new players who are weak but they also got the chance to play due to our hard work. How can empty guilds get 300K contribution? It must have been filled with random people at some time, And i feel bad for those who missed FR but it is not the end of the world, our guild had missed the first more rewarding FR and we still played the game the way we were used to play ( I had quit the game for 2 months but i came back due to FR and started enjoying the game again). And 70% members of our guild are FTPs How are the three guilds doing?
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Post by parth12008 on Apr 15, 2017 5:12:02 GMT
It is not true about empty guilds IMO, We are a big family and have many guilds, Three of our guilds joined FR, but none of them were empty, All of them were having at least 48 members, our main guild is in Top 12 usually in GW, We had 20 members online at reset to not miss the FR ( I know only captains/GM can apply but it was just hype). One of our guild is full of new players who are weak but they also got the chance to play due to our hard work. How can empty guilds get 300K contribution? It must have been filled with random people at some time, And i feel bad for those who missed FR but it is not the end of the world, our guild had missed the first more rewarding FR and we still played the game the way we were used to play ( I had quit the game for 2 months but i came back due to FR and started enjoying the game again). And 70% members of our guild are FTPs How are the three guilds doing? Main is 8th and second is 59th. I am not sure about third!
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