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Post by BlackTone on May 7, 2017 18:32:44 GMT
I am trying to figure out which 3 Tournament heroes to develop going forward given my current resources (mostly what to do with the 76k ore I'm sitting on). I want to concentrate on just 3 heroes, since each one takes so much glory to get good abilities on. To simplify the discussion, 1) let's not consider what my creature pool is like 2) I do NOT want more than the one VS I already have Chart for reference to give perspective on ore/shard investment What I have today Current Tournament Heroes (rank under 500) VS - Lvl 5 w/Battlecry 8, Entrap 5, Freezing Dance (also my arena deck) Warlock - Lvl 6 w/Protection 7, Firestorm 9, Freezing Dance Captivator - Lvl 4 w/Protection 5, Fleshfeast 9, Freezing Dance Other Heroes (undeveloped, assume talents still at level 1) I am considering developing Oceanus Lvl 3 + 25 shards Blademaster Lvl 3 + 9 shards Armageddon Lvl 3 + 4 shards Spirit Arbitier - Only 1 shard + Future 80 shards once Alice piggy banks mature Sitting on 76k ore. Able to clear trials daily. Complete the energy mine daily, doing 1st chest in gem mines only on double ore days (use to spend more gems here, but am shifting priorities). Star player sitting on full AB, not buying gems anymore otherwise. Out of the current lineup Tournament lineup, Captivator is the one I like the least and so another hero would probably replace her spot. Cons on captivator - shards are rarest in the tournament mall so it takes forever to level her and lots of creatures in my area of tournament have Dodge or good boot equip so the attack from Crazed Sorrow misses a lot, so does not seem as effective as it reads. I'm liking the Oceanus or Blademaster options a lot because their shards are abundant from Trials/Gauntlet/Mines which is good going forward for leveling them, plus I can get them to a good level with my current reserve of ore. I am reluctant to get Oceanus because Lucidity totally hoses his clone, and for where I am at in tournment, does not seem like a good long term investment. I am not terribly interested in Armageddon, the benefit of leveling him seems pretty negligible and also situationally he can sit at full rage and not make use of it, which can be a waste in tough battles. Given infinite resources, I would totally develop Spirit Arbiter, but even with an incoming 80 Spirit Arbiter shards and my initial ore, I would only get SA to mid level 4 then need to slowly continue mining ore to improve her. Cons on SA - I would only be able to get shards from ore which would take a while to get her to a good level. This game is a grind, so am in it for the long game, but if it takes getting her to lvl 7 before she is really good and would tie up my ore for all of time, may not be worth it. I am actually most curious in the Blademaster option. Searching through other posts, people say he's only good at high levels (similar to SA) but no one has really mentioned what the magic number is to aim for. Biggest pro in my mind - shards are abundant from Trials/Gauntlet/Mines in addition to being able to use Ore on him, I could get him to level 5 right now and pretty close to 6. Otherwise, I could just use my ore to get my current VS stronger and keep the current 3 tournament heroes and invest glory in their skills and not bother developing a new one. Thoughts?
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Post by Koloi on May 7, 2017 19:28:08 GMT
I am in a similar Situation as u are and about 500 in tourney also, actually i think i battled one of your accounts today(lost).
Just that my heroes are Oceanus, VS and Arma. I want to get rid of Arma.
The Heroes u already mentioned are what i woud consider also.
I for myself came to the conclusion, if i want to compete, i may have to go for another VS. But as u said, u dont want to go this way.
Long term Spirit Arbiter, would be the best choice imho. U should consider her, due to the piggy headstart.
What u didnt mentioned is Alchemist. Ever thought about her?
In theory she should be a good choice against the more and more immunity in higher ranks.
Maybe some ppl with Alchemist in the higher ranks, can tell more about how its working in practice.
Looking foward what u decide.
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Post by ℒ✰Deer on May 7, 2017 20:54:19 GMT
Heeey guys, I am in a similar shoe like you. Except that I am ~3000 in tourney due to the sad fact I have only one good hero...VS.
I have already made up my mind what hero I will be aiming for from the ore mall and it's SA. Thanks for the chart now I see how much ore i will have to collect....wow....it will take some time.
Even though I reckon VS better than SA I wouldn't choose her again. For me it would make this game feel boring. When I see the top tourney decks with three Druidess, I wonder why....why??? Whatever. If they enjoy the game like that...I don't mind.
I chose SA mainly because I think she is better than the rest of the hero from the ore mall. I don't know Alchemist though but because Piggy bank gives 80 SA shards already.. i think it's a good start.
Regarding Blademaster, if you do gem mine you will get him anyway. He, Armageddon and Thor is the most common 5* hero that drops from the mine. I reckon by the time I reach level 7 with SA i will have enough Blademaster shard to get him to the same level. So why would I specifically go after him when I will get him anyway?? Actually I have already got him without buying a single shard. But I don't consider him to be at the same level like SA. I might be wrong though. I didn't have much encounter with Blademaster in PvP.
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Post by loranneman on May 7, 2017 21:47:33 GMT
Heeey guys, I am in a similar shoe like you. Except that I am ~3000 in tourney due to the sad fact I have only one good hero...VS. I have already made up my mind what hero I will be aiming for from the ore mall and it's SA. Thanks for the chart now I see how much ore i will have to collect....wow....it will take some time. Even though I reckon VS better than SA I wouldn't choose her again. For me it would make this game feel boring. When I see the top tourney decks with three Druidess, I wonder why....why??? Whatever. If they enjoy the game like that...I don't mind. I chose SA mainly because I think she is better than the rest of the hero from the ore mall. I don't know Alchemist though but because Piggy bank gives 80 SA shards already.. i think it's a good start. Regarding Blademaster, if you do gem mine you will get him anyway. He, Armageddon and Thor is the most common 5* hero that drops from the mine. I reckon by the time I reach level 7 with SA i will have enough Blademaster shard to get him to the same level. So why would I specifically go after him when I will get him anyway?? Actually I have already got him without buying a single shard. But I don't consider him to be at the same level like SA. I might be wrong though. I didn't have much encounter with Blademaster in PvP. I agree! This game would be way more fun when there wouldnt be 2 of the same crits allowed in all 3 tourney decks same for heroes
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Post by asgarth1980 on May 8, 2017 0:47:10 GMT
Why not get 2 vs... instead of trying to level her to 10...also do take hero that cannot be blocked... like lucidity vs ocean/capti....
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Post by Koloi on May 8, 2017 1:27:25 GMT
Heeey guys, I am in a similar shoe like you. Except that I am ~3000 in tourney due to the sad fact I have only one good hero...VS. I have already made up my mind what hero I will be aiming for from the ore mall and it's SA. Thanks for the chart now I see how much ore i will have to collect....wow....it will take some time. Even though I reckon VS better than SA I wouldn't choose her again. For me it would make this game feel boring. When I see the top tourney decks with three Druidess, I wonder why....why??? Whatever. If they enjoy the game like that...I don't mind. I chose SA mainly because I think she is better than the rest of the hero from the ore mall. I don't know Alchemist though but because Piggy bank gives 80 SA shards already.. i think it's a good start. Regarding Blademaster, if you do gem mine you will get him anyway. He, Armageddon and Thor is the most common 5* hero that drops from the mine. I reckon by the time I reach level 7 with SA i will have enough Blademaster shard to get him to the same level. So why would I specifically go after him when I will get him anyway?? Actually I have already got him without buying a single shard. But I don't consider him to be at the same level like SA. I might be wrong though. I didn't have much encounter with Blademaster in PvP. I agree with u. If i only would have VS as 5* i wouldnt want to get another one right away. She is boring. as. f***. Thats why i went for OceAnus first, back then. He is actually a lot of fun. And i still refuse to make VS my Main Hero. Even so she is ready. Talent, level and rune wise. Atm none of the guys, i compete with in my Arena, have ludicity on their VS. So i keep trolling them and clone their stuff until they have. Then i have to switch to VS, but anyways. Also, u and i had a conversation, about getting Druidess. I told u why i dont want her. Pretty much the same reason. At some point, there is a decision to make. Do i want to compete or not. The fun choice for myself, would be Alchemist as next Hero. I am not sure if she is the right choice, if i want to climb much higher. Like i said, in theory yes, but dont even know if there is just one Alchemist in Top 100. For sure Spirit Arbiter or another VS are capable Heroes to compete in higher Ranks. Maybe VS even more, since with her u can stand a chance versus Druidess.
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Post by BlackTone on May 8, 2017 1:54:26 GMT
Why not get 2 vs... instead of trying to level her to 10...also do take hero that cannot be blocked... like lucidity vs ocean/capti.... I am playing 2 main accounts, one of them I have 2x VS lvl 4. This is the other account and do not want to do the same thing.
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Post by asgarth1980 on May 8, 2017 2:12:34 GMT
Why not get 2 vs... instead of trying to level her to 10...also do take hero that cannot be blocked... like lucidity vs ocean/capti.... I am playing 2 main accounts, one of them I have 2x VS lvl 4. This is the other account and do not want to do the same thing. SA is cool... mine is level8 so one more to go... it is fun..
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Post by japoon on May 8, 2017 4:52:20 GMT
In my opinion, you can develop 2 VS + 1 Warlock in short run.
Getting a VS Lvl4 needs 120000 Ore only. Leveling a VS Lvl4 to Lvl10 needs another 791,250 Ore. = 6.59 Lvl4 VS!!
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2017 9:57:22 GMT
Although i have no experience with her, but why not going for an alchemist deck? Might do well in Dungeon's too, because of all the immu there.
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Post by BlackTone on May 8, 2017 17:23:02 GMT
Although i have no experience with her, but why not going for an alchemist deck? Might do well in Dungeon's too, because of all the immu there. I am not a fan of Alchemist myself, which is why I did not post her as an option. She is most effective if you build the deck for her, and a lot of the cards that are really good for triggering her skill, suck before the skill is on because they CAN be blocked by immunity, I think this leads to more unlucky matche ups based on timing of your cards - this I don't like. Also, for my circumstance, her shards are only available via ore mall, putting her in the same category as SA, which is a disadvantage to the Mines/Trials/Gauntlet 5 stars i was thinking about, meaning leveling would go a lot slower. To get the Oceanus Lvl 3 + 25 shards, Blademaster Lvl 3 + 9 shards, Armageddon Lvl 3 + 4 shards, these shards were 100% obtained from Mines/Trials/Gauntlet over time without use of ore. SA, I have 80 shards coming up anyways, which is a nice head start. Head to head, generally, I'm way more scared of a high level SA deck than high level Alchemist deck and am more interested in SA between SA and Alchemist.
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