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Post by ruklo on Aug 8, 2017 20:12:00 GMT
Of course for F2P a full Alice Bonds is a must and should be first priority.
but now Im sitting in 30K gems, and probably will take 3 o 4 more bonds to get it full (which means probably a year, and do not know if will keep playing )
So in order to speed up a litte "deck heroes" for F2P, as currently do not even have a first mine hero (70k ore..) - this is to know where Im standing
So I was thinking not to go to full bond. And to improve my deck use the gems only for:
1) every day 3rd mine to first chest (350 gems x 31 days : 10850 gems)
2) LR to 10 chest. (i calculated aprox 600 gems per LR - 2 LR per week) 4800 gems
Which is a little more than 15K which is the rebate for 30 K bond (of course I can use the first rebate to buy bronze and will get aprox 1000 gems per month from daily login, tournament, etc)
Do you think it is a good idea?
For players that farm everyday 1st chest in 3rd mine, does it speeds up the game?
Thanks.
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Post by whitebears on Aug 8, 2017 20:23:18 GMT
Bad idea. Because you are not going to be improving your deck much with 1) and 2) before you burn through all your gems. Once you max full Alice Bonds you get roughly 60k gems free each AB.
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Post by BK✦Singing on Aug 8, 2017 20:43:41 GMT
My own experience: 1. I have been playing this game as pure F2P for less than a year so far, but I have full AB already. You probably forget to count those Alchemy gems and map chest gems. 2. I've been doing 1) for about 2 months, no single full card (lucky pull or assemble shards) yet. Like farming all other "rare" things, it comes slow. 3. Only depending on LR is slow, or, forever. You might want to do Ultima at some point, and then you need lots of gems. What is your goal here as F2P? We can better discuss the "speed things up" part then cause maybe you already achieved the best
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2017 21:38:15 GMT
Full AB is essential to proceed. You will get stuck without.
At some point none of the 4 star creatures or common 5 star creatures (melds included) will make your deck better. It is what it is.
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Post by jp on Aug 8, 2017 22:10:41 GMT
I agree with other guys, 9+ month in and I am sitting on 94k gems but still I am watching my spending (3rd gem mine only on double ore day) until I am guaranteed a full bond, base on my limited experience of 3rd gem mine, about a dozen times, it may take about 100 trys to have a chance of completing a creature and that's with Ominis, luck will play a part in this, it is very costly but for F2P you don't have a choice unless you belong in the 0.1 percent lucky pool.
My advice is buckle down and save those gems at least for 1 more AB to 50k that would get you another 10k from alchemy and all bonds besides diamond which would give you the freedom of 29k gems (plus chance at rare cards), then you can go thru 2nd plus 3rd gem mine mon-friday every week until next AB, this would give you a good mix of Ore and shards, plus maybe some gems left to add on to the pool yet still have some progress as far as ore and shard collection.
As far as LR is concerned, it won't be my focus point unless I have extra gems to burn, its like running a 50k marathon you may or may never finish, it depends heavily on what creatures Igg decides to give you, there hasn't been a Octa for a long time, now Ordance hasn't showed up for a while, who knows when Soul shrew or Granite dragon will go into hiding, I am more interested in the 5* ominis, everything else is just a bonus, I wouldn't waste too much gems on it especially when you don't have full bonds and going for all LR creatures is a bad idea, but if you just want to do it, I would just concentrate on 1 or 2 creatures until you have more gems.
Unless my math are wrong your numbers for spending are just for 1 month but AB is at least 7 weeks which means you can't spend a single cent for a few weeks.
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Post by proleon on Aug 9, 2017 2:34:38 GMT
Full AB is essential to progress in end game as a F2P imo. From my observation, the "trend" in end game now is 1) to get OP hero, ie. Druidess, Warbringer, Wraith Hunter and; 2) to craft for blade shard (materials and sparks) Of course, it's depend on what you want to achieve in the game. If you choose to speed up now, you might get what you want now, but in long term you might lose the accessibility to get 1&2. My advice is do 2nd/3rd gem mines first chest on double ore day only; LR once every week/forth week until you get full AB. It may seem slow now but you would have greater reward later.
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Post by micionero on Aug 9, 2017 8:38:42 GMT
If you get to 50k gems you can alchemy and obtain more than 10k gems bonus, and other 20k gems when you arrive at 100k ab gives you a lot of gems and you can also get very rare cards in the same time, you'll be able to do the 1st chest of the right mine every day and get very rare shards and a lot of ore get the garanteed things and don't attempt the Luck
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Post by ruklo on Aug 9, 2017 9:28:15 GMT
thanks to all for the insights, they were really helpfull
so to full bond here we go....
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Post by moonshaker on Aug 9, 2017 12:06:22 GMT
If you have more than 90k gems then only burn through. But keep enough gems for full Alice bond. Best way is first chest in 3rd mine and ultima. Now you can add lucky spin also.
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Post by TheDoctor✪NFS on Aug 9, 2017 12:13:01 GMT
first chest map 3 is 450 gems / day. You do get good creatures eventually but takes 8-10 weeks doing it daily to get to that point. You will run out of gems if you try that right now. Save for max bond is the best advice. After that you have scope to spend on the area you think will benefit you most.
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Post by Lastpak✪NFS on Aug 9, 2017 14:42:17 GMT
You are not playing the game if you don't have full AB if you are f2p. This is coming from a f2p player.
I would suggest to quit playing now, cause if it will take you a year to get there you really don't do anything in that year. I would quit myself if I didn't have full bonds. There was a period before, where you didn't need to rely on bonds as much as you do now. However now, with the way it's going in this game, I would strongly recommend not starting with this game in the first place.
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Post by icezaius on Aug 9, 2017 22:59:44 GMT
I can give you the other side of the coin here. Pure f2p and only ever did one AB, the smallest 3k bond. Figured I wouldn't be playing long enough to keep hoarding gems after that bond, so I burned them on different stuff. Didn't get much for those few k gems, and am somehow still playing the game a little bit on and off. I feel I have very little chance to progress past where I am right now (600-700 tourney when I try for a few days). If I would have hoarded my gems I would be pretty close to full bonds right now. Its REALLY REALLY lame being gem poor. I now use all my gems to do the 1st dig in the 3rd mine as often as I have enough. Its gotten me close to finishing a mystic, blossoms, soul shrew (she's from LR, no gems spent-also halfway to Granite Dragon and Octa this way), and I think a couple other good creatures. I greatly regret not saving my gems until bonds were full. Don't quit on them early cause there is really no going back once you burn all the gems, its just too long of a road to want to start again. Stay the course!!!
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Post by micionero on Aug 10, 2017 7:32:09 GMT
I can give you the other side of the coin here. Pure f2p and only ever did one AB, the smallest 3k bond. Figured I wouldn't be playing long enough to keep hoarding gems after that bond, so I burned them on different stuff. Didn't get much for those few k gems, and am somehow still playing the game a little bit on and off. I feel I have very little chance to progress past where I am right now (600-700 tourney when I try for a few days). If I would have hoarded my gems I would be pretty close to full bonds right now. Its REALLY REALLY lame being gem poor. I now use all my gems to do the 1st dig in the 3rd mine as often as I have enough. Its gotten me close to finishing a mystic, blossoms, soul shrew (she's from LR, no gems spent-also halfway to Granite Dragon and Octa this way), and I think a couple other good creatures. I greatly regret not saving my gems until bonds were full. Don't quit on them early cause there is really no going back once you burn all the gems, its just too long of a road to want to start again. Stay the course!!! it was the same for me i've started play dh in may 2015 but my first ab was this year...now i'm finally ready for maxed bonds
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Post by jp on Aug 10, 2017 7:49:32 GMT
it was the same for me i've started play dh in may 2015 but my first ab was this year...now i'm finally ready for maxed bonds How did you get full bonds so quickly?, my main started AB last year Nov and just got full bonds now, my alternate started AB at the beginning of this year and its only sitting on 61k gems, both account spends extremely little.
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Post by micionero on Aug 10, 2017 9:07:29 GMT
I do star so I collect over then 3k gems a month. I spend 15 gems per day in lucky flip and stop. I collected gems during last winter, as a hamster. 11 feb 2017 I've done Bronze and Silver bond for 10.500 gems and get 18k, then alchemy 20k 01 may 2017 I've done Platinum and Bronze bond for 30k gems and get 51k, then alchemy 50k 20 jun 2017 I've done Platinum Gold Silver Bronze for 47.875 gems and get 87k, but I've saved 10k gems This morning I've done alchemy 100k and now I'm at 121k, I can cry now
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Post by jp on Aug 10, 2017 10:19:18 GMT
I do star so I collect over then 3k gems a month. I spend 15 gems per day in lucky flip and stop. I collected gems during last winter, as a hamster. 11 feb 2017 I've done Bronze and Silver bond for 10.500 gems and get 18k, then alchemy 20k 01 may 2017 I've done Platinum and Bronze bond for 30k gems and get 51k, then alchemy 50k 20 jun 2017 I've done Platinum Gold Silver Bronze for 47.875 gems and get 87k, but I've saved 10k gems This morning I've done alchemy 100k and now I'm at 121k, I can cry now Lol, that was funny, just did my 100k alchemy as well @131k, Ironically, the more gems i have the less brave i am to spending it, totally forgot to do the gem mine yesterday on double ore day its amazing you can remember the exact date of AB and the amount of gems.
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Post by lotnar on Aug 11, 2017 20:18:39 GMT
Math is your friend here First, grab ALL the gems accesible to you, meaning close all dungeons on hard. The reward is couple hundreds gems each. Do all kinds of mazes (also couple hundreds gems each). If you are under lv 60, you can get some gems daily from trials rewards. Your goal should be to get more than 50k gems after AB (easy to do since you already have 30k), to use Alchemy and most likely get another 10k gems. Using the same recipe, you will be full AB in only 2 AB runs. Just don't waste ANY single gem until then (I did it on my main account and I am still crying about it).
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