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Post by squirreleyez on Aug 9, 2017 4:24:22 GMT
Two questions!
Regarding Planewalker v. Noble Lord v. Normal equipment
1. Does anybody know which exact secondary skills are unique to each equipment type?
2. Does the equipment color have anything to do with the type/chance of getting a secondary skill? For example, does purple noble lord give higher chance or different skill than would a blue?
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Post by whitebears on Aug 9, 2017 14:59:35 GMT
1. The exact secondary skills that are unique is that noble lord gets blade shard. That's it. All other skills are the same. 2. The equipment color is very important to get a secondary skill. Blue only gets you 4 skills (harrow, muddle, law, unholy rites, and if you are on noble lord it is possible to get the 5th skill blade shard). Purple and up gets you the full gauntlet of the 13 skills which are mostly superior to the first 4.
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Post by squirreleyez on Aug 9, 2017 17:45:52 GMT
Thanks a bunch whitebears, I searched through quite a bit of posts and could not find that info. Extremely helpful!!
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Post by DA♦Lu©ife®♦AT on Aug 10, 2017 11:49:25 GMT
Will try my first Noble blue soon... I will go crazy if i get harrow or law!!! My tries: 1. Noble Lord Purple -> Law 2. Noble Lord Purple -> Muddle 3. Noble Lord Blue -> Harrow 4. Noble Lord Blue -> Blade Shard
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Post by japoon on Aug 11, 2017 1:11:38 GMT
Will try my first Noble blue soon... I will go crazy if i get harrow or law!!! Law
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Post by japoon on Aug 11, 2017 2:27:00 GMT
Will try my first Noble blue soon... I will go crazy if i get harrow or law!!! My tries: 1. Noble Lord Purple -> Law 2. Noble Lord Purple -> Muddle 3. Noble Lord Blue -> Harrow 4. Noble Lord Blue -> Blade Shard Can anybody show out the step by step guide for crafting Noble Lord Blue?
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Post by loranneman on Aug 11, 2017 23:12:21 GMT
Needed 1500 momoya points(without discount) Of 2 mats you buy 1 From 2 mats you need to buy twice so you can make gold mats. 100 sparks
First craft blue LORD: No sparks 2 blue 1 purple 1 gold material (I dont know the equip needed) lvl 5 purple i think..HELP NEEDED HERE Chance: 97%
Then craft blue Noble: 100 sparks 2 blue 1 purple 1 gold material And the lvl 5 blue LORD equipment
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Post by ev0lution on Aug 12, 2017 2:42:06 GMT
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ev0lution: It is a huge screw up doing it your way. In your example of the lord chest build you are wasting very expensive gold mats. The correct cost effective way of making it would have first been to craft a gold lvl3 iron item. Any one will do, it does not have to be an iron chest to craft a Lord chest like the Nobel Lord chest does. The gold iron item will cost 2 x normal smelting gold mats and 2 x normal smelting purple mats. Then use the gold iron equipment as a gold material in the Nobel Chest craft so you don't waste valuable gold mats like you are doing there. Purple Lord Equipment: 1 gold material + 1 purple material + 1 blue material + 1 white material + Lvl 3 iron gold equip gives you 99.97% purple chance, 0.03% gold.I don't have any Emperors Breath mats right now to show you, so I am using the Thorium chest as an example. The same formula applies. Then for crafting the Nobel Lord blue you use the newly crafted purple lord chest + 2 blue mats + 1 purple mat + 1 gold + 100 spark. This will give you a 54.56% green / 45.44% blue success ratio and a 100% skill success ratio. The reason you want to do it this way is that you only risk the materials if the build fails and not the spark. Should it fail you will end up with green equipment and your spark will be returned. Hope this helps
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Post by chyj4747 on Aug 15, 2017 1:30:33 GMT
Then for crafting the Nobel Lord blue you use the newly crafted purple lord chest + 2 blue mats + 1 purple mat + 1 gold + 100 spark. This will give you a 54.56% green / 45.44% blue success ratio and a 100% skill success ratio. The reason you want to do it this way is that you only risk the materials if the build fails and not the spark. Should it fail you will end up with green equipment and your spark will be returned. Then what's the purpose of doing this? Why not using a little better materials to guarantee blue? In this case you will not waste any materials.
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Post by JayBase on Aug 15, 2017 2:45:41 GMT
Because as soon as you increase blue chance from that point it goes over to blue/purple. And for a 100% skill success you will then need 250 spark which is much more expensive. It is possible to get as high as 97% for purple grade, for Blue that max possible grade percentage is 45%.
Does it make sense? No, thats the way IGG designed it. Forcing you to put more money into the game if you want the required result.
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Post by ev0lution on Aug 15, 2017 3:15:27 GMT
ev0lution: It is a huge screw up doing it your way. In your example of the lord chest build you are wasting very expensive gold mats. The correct cost effective way of making it would have first been to craft a gold lvl3 iron item. Any one will do, it does not have to be an iron chest to craft a Lord chest like the Nobel Lord chest does. The gold iron item will cost 2 x normal smelting gold mats and 2 x normal smelting purple mats. Then use the gold iron equipment as a gold material in the Nobel Chest craft so you don't waste valuable gold mats like you are doing there. Purple Lord Equipment: 1 gold material + 1 purple material + 1 blue material + 1 white material + Lvl 3 iron gold equip gives you 99.97% purple chance, 0.03% gold.I don't have any Emperors Breath mats right now to show you, so I am using the Thorium chest as an example. The same formula applies. Then for crafting the Nobel Lord blue you use the newly crafted purple lord chest + 2 blue mats + 1 purple mat + 1 gold + 100 spark. This will give you a 54.56% green / 45.44% blue success ratio and a 100% skill success ratio. The reason you want to do it this way is that you only risk the materials if the build fails and not the spark. Should it fail you will end up with green equipment and your spark will be returned. Hope this helps You are right on the level 3 gold iron to use for crafting purple lord equipment...but where do you get a white Emperor's material??
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Post by ev0lution on Aug 15, 2017 4:12:04 GMT
The purple level 5 helmet that I used to sacrifice for purple lord crafting is a failed craft for gold equipment. I think that should be pretty obvious right??
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Post by JayBase on Aug 15, 2017 10:24:31 GMT
lol, obviously you would use a blue because there is no Emperor white mats Down side to the green blue method is a chance of using more materials. Up side is your never gonna loose your spark. Its all a gamble rely, on one hand loose some mats on the other loose your spark. Make the choice based on your resources.
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Post by 🌟Starr🌟 on Aug 15, 2017 10:50:38 GMT
Its all a gamble rely, on one hand loose some mats on the other loose your spark. Make the choice based on your resources. I like your crafting formula, but i thought it was discussed here before that better skills are only on purple equip. Does that apply to noble equip too? So this is perfect to save sparks for a couple guaranteed lesser skills, but then i guess we're forced to take the risk on purple. For instance, ive used this method 4x with regular mats - got harrow, then 3 muddle in a row. I'm almost ready for a noble craft and i think i might risk blue/purple in the hopes of something new. Then again, blue noble equip should offer more than blue regular equip right?
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Post by 1501✪NFS on Aug 15, 2017 11:25:53 GMT
Then for crafting the Nobel Lord blue you use the newly crafted purple lord chest + 2 blue mats + 1 purple mat + 1 gold + 100 spark. This will give you a 54.56% green / 45.44% blue success ratio and a 100% skill success ratio. The reason you want to do it this way is that you only risk the materials if the build fails and not the spark. Should it fail you will end up with green equipment and your spark will be returned. Hope this helps Gold x 1, Purple x1, Blue x2 + Purple Lv5 Lord Equipment will give you 97.67% blue & 2.33% purple. If u get blue noble lord equipment at the end, you are guaranteed to get a bonus skill if you used 100 sparks.
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Post by 1501✪NFS on Aug 15, 2017 11:33:11 GMT
ev0lution: It is a huge screw up doing it your way. In your example of the lord chest build you are wasting very expensive gold mats. The correct cost effective way of making it would have first been to craft a gold lvl3 iron item. Any one will do, it does not have to be an iron chest to craft a Lord chest like the Nobel Lord chest does. The gold iron item will cost 2 x normal smelting gold mats and 2 x normal smelting purple mats. Then use the gold iron equipment as a gold material in the Nobel Chest craft so you don't waste valuable gold mats like you are doing there. Purple Lord Equipment: 1 gold material + 1 purple material + 1 blue material + 1 white material + Lvl 3 iron gold equip gives you 99.97% purple chance, 0.03% gold.I don't have any Emperors Breath mats right now to show you, so I am using the Thorium chest as an example. The same formula applies. Then for crafting the Nobel Lord blue you use the newly crafted purple lord chest + 2 blue mats + 1 purple mat + 1 gold + 100 spark. This will give you a 54.56% green / 45.44% blue success ratio and a 100% skill success ratio. The reason you want to do it this way is that you only risk the materials if the build fails and not the spark. Should it fail you will end up with green equipment and your spark will be returned. Hope this helps Should be: Gold x1, Purple x1, Blue x2 + Gold Lv3 equipment = 99.24% Blue & 0.76% Purple Besides Purple Lv5 equipment, gold Lv3 equipment (as sacrifice) is another cheapest way used for crafting.
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Post by 1501✪NFS on Aug 15, 2017 11:39:01 GMT
Yup. Blue noble eq offers blade shard, which you cant get it from regular blue eq. Other than that, the pool is the same.
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Post by loranneman on Aug 15, 2017 16:33:29 GMT
You dont need purple Lord to cract blue Noble...you need blue LORD equipment. What u showed you is i think there cheapest way
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Post by 🌟Starr🌟 on Aug 15, 2017 17:18:19 GMT
So using this method, I've bought all the materials to craft 1 lord, then 1 noble lord, for a total of 1200 momoya pts.
I wait for 20% off, bought 2 10pks each of two mats, 1 10pk each of the other two, dont need the 40pk for 1 craft. So getting the mats to do this is easy, took only 3 days i think thats when momoya started.
Still need a few more sparks 😕
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Post by BK✦Singing on Aug 15, 2017 19:12:43 GMT
So how do you guys get 1k+ momoya tickets? I only know during momoya event 1 gold chest can give you 1 white voucher which translate to 3 tickets. I guess there must be some other F2P means to obtains tickets?
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Post by Koloi on Aug 15, 2017 20:05:23 GMT
So how do you guys get 1k+ momoya tickets? I only know during momoya event 1 gold chest can give you 1 white voucher which translate to 3 tickets. I guess there must be some other F2P means to obtains tickets? U can also draw gem essences. They give up to green. Most ppl do it, when they are with - %. U can rank this way in Bi-Hourly Ranking sometimes as well.
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U can also draw gem essences. They give up to green. Most ppl do it, when they are with - %. U can rank this way in Bi-Hourly Ranking sometimes as well. Thanks! Do you know what is the usual exchange rate? Like how many gems for how many tickets?
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U can also draw gem essences. They give up to green. Most ppl do it, when they are with - %. U can rank this way in Bi-Hourly Ranking sometimes as well. Thanks! Do you know what is the usual exchange rate? Like how many gems for how many tickets? you get 4 tickets you get like 2 3 or 4 green tickets per essence draw..others are white..
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Post by Koloi on Aug 15, 2017 20:54:07 GMT
U can also draw gem essences. They give up to green. Most ppl do it, when they are with - %. U can rank this way in Bi-Hourly Ranking sometimes as well. Thanks! Do you know what is the usual exchange rate? Like how many gems for how many tickets? Sry, since i was a spender in the pre BS Aera, i always just bought my tickets.😂 So i dont have a big samplesize. From the draws i did, i usually got about 4 white, one green i think. But i didnt do it often yet, and i am not sure if i remeber right. Btw. Lucky Spin also drop tickets. But meh. If u are not farming something from it, its may not worth it. Too costy imho.
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Blue Noble Lord's Equipment is a waste of your time and ultimately a waste of your money. Only the impatient one will go for that small chance of acquiring Blade s*** aka BS aka donuts
*Moderator, this is my first post. Please understand, Blade Shard is donuts, anyone that disagrees should quit DH and try something simple like.. go press elevator buttons and see what happens*
Let me get straight to the point:
Sparks: EXPENSIVE and cost you a TON of money Mats: Not even close to the cost you will incur monetarily to craft.
If anyone knows anything about RPGs, then you understood the importance of Attributes and would never settle for Blue. Why the fudge are people wasting their time on Blue Equipment from the start? (Answer: Sheep go "Baaaaaaa" and follow)
If BS is your goal, then by all means please continue to craft and cry at your failure.
If you want to be the best in the game possible, use common sense and don't be a newb. Go for Gold and save your sparks.
Why do I say GOLD? Because 10 fails of Blue NL EQ with the same lousy skills would have netted many people 1,000 shiny sparks over time and people are too impatient to understand that Attributes are superior and always come before skills from sparks.
Skills are secondary. Skills are luxury.
Go for purple at least for mediocre attributes for Noble-Lord's Sakes!
My personal recommendation: Use no more than 250 sparks and go for Gold NL EQ (100% Gold Mats and Gold Lord's EQ to Sacrifice). The odds are in favor of purple. If you get gold, you'll have 25% chance for a skill. If you get purple, you'll have a skill and have not wasted any sparks.
If you get gold and no skill, well.. I sure as heck wouldn't toss 1,000 Sparks all at once and then cry when it came out Purp.
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Post by MaxStar✪NFS on Aug 16, 2017 6:59:52 GMT
Blue Noble Lord's Equipment is a waste of your time and ultimately a waste of your money. Only the impatient one will go for that small chance of acquiring Blade s*** aka BS aka donuts *Moderator, this is my first post. Please understand, Blade Shard is donuts, anyone that disagrees should quit DH and try something simple like.. go press elevator buttons and see what happens* Let me get straight to the point: Sparks: EXPENSIVE and cost you a TON of money Mats: Not even close to the cost you will incur monetarily to craft. If anyone knows anything about RPGs, then you understood the importance of Attributes and would never settle for Blue. Why the fudge are people wasting their time on Blue Equipment from the start? (Answer: Sheep go "Baaaaaaa" and follow) If BS is your goal, then by all means please continue to craft and cry at your failure. If you want to be the best in the game possible, use common sense and don't be a newb. Go for Gold and save your sparks. Why do I say GOLD? Because 10 fails of Blue NL EQ with the same lousy skills would have netted many people 1,000 shiny sparks over time and people are too impatient to understand that Attributes are superior and always come before skills from sparks. Skills are secondary. Skills are luxury. Go for purple at least for mediocre attributes for Noble-Lord's Sakes! My personal recommendation: Use no more than 250 sparks and go for Gold NL EQ (100% Gold Mats and Gold Lord's EQ to Sacrifice). The odds are in favor of purple. If you get gold, you'll have 25% chance for a skill. If you get purple, you'll have a skill and have not wasted any sparks. If you get gold and no skill, well.. I sure as heck wouldn't toss 1,000 Sparks all at once and then cry when it came out Purp. You are full of money or have endless time and you live forever?
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Post by 1501✪NFS on Aug 16, 2017 10:22:31 GMT
U can also draw gem essences. They give up to green. Most ppl do it, when they are with - %. U can rank this way in Bi-Hourly Ranking sometimes as well. Thanks! Do you know what is the usual exchange rate? Like how many gems for how many tickets? from my past exp, i spent ard 15-16k gems for 2k momoya tickets during 70% discount skill essence event.
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Post by sickboy254698 on Sept 1, 2017 19:38:41 GMT
lvleteor You are a genius at deck building in this game. I practice against you every time I change my deck. Pisses me off every time you win. You have a point here but depending on what piece of equipment you are making the skill is 10x more important than the stat boosts. Skills like Unholy Rites, Muddle, and Blade Shard are game changers. Harrow and Law are nice but there over all impact is minimal. In particular Blade Shard (of course) and Unholy Rites have the most impact. Then Muddle, Harrow, and Law in that order. Obviously Blade Shard is at the top of that list. But of the other four Unholy rites is 10 times better than the other three combined. It is worth having on a crappy blue piece of equipment. No matter what it is. Unholy Rites 30% chance is incredibly misleading. Like any skill or ability in any game with a percentage of chance to activate it can sometimes go off 10 times in a row. It can also sometimes sacrifice a card that you need to win and you lose because of it. More often than not though that does not happen. The game tends to be very opportunistic when it comes to choosing what card to sacrifice from your hand, which card to clone, and when to do it. So much so that I am inclined to believe that it is not just a flat 30% chance with nothing else affecting the decision. From watching it time and time again it makes it seem like there's other factors involved other. Regardless it is far more beneficial than having a higher skill resist or Dodge chance on a particular piece of equipment. In the end we also have to remember that this is Deck Heroes. Who's to say that those thousand Sparks that you saved up for the last 6 months and spent a fortune on aren't pissed away on a gold set of boots with muddle?
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