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Post by Mitti on Dec 4, 2017 18:25:52 GMT
"This was a glitch and has been patched" for 3 years... haha or a gift for 3 years birthday
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Post by barleylime on Apr 29, 2018 10:11:38 GMT
1. Since now Warhungry and Berzerk don't stack anymore, which one do you keep? 2. What are the other hero talents or creature skills that can stack with Warhungry/Berzerk? I hear Battleblow don't stack anymore.
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Post by NFS✪Grandfather on Apr 29, 2018 11:53:26 GMT
1. Since now Warhungry and Berzerk don't stack anymore, which one do you keep? 2. What are the other hero talents or creature skills that can stack with Warhungry/Berzerk? I hear Battleblow don't stack anymore. nothing doesnt stack anymore, so best is to use Leo if want extra att
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Post by juno on Apr 29, 2018 12:23:02 GMT
I wonder if there is any other easy f2p strat like this out there, could use some help for maps 14-16
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Post by barleylime on Apr 29, 2018 16:19:46 GMT
1. Since now Warhungry and Berzerk don't stack anymore, which one do you keep? 2. What are the other hero talents or creature skills that can stack with Warhungry/Berzerk? I hear Battleblow don't stack anymore. nothing doesnt stack anymore, so best is to use Leo if want extra att So, you mean only skills that up the crit's attacking stats at the start of turn (eg. Leo's , Feral Fever, Bane) and hero talent like (Mortii Strength, Brutality) would stack with Berzerk and Warhungry? And all skills that activate just before the crit makes its basic attack (eg. Battleblow, Sneak, Warlust) would not stack with Berzerk and Warhungry?
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Post by jp on Apr 30, 2018 2:44:57 GMT
nothing doesnt stack anymore, so best is to use Leo if want extra att So, you mean only skills that up the crit's attacking stats at the start of turn (eg. Leo's , Feral Fever, Bane) and hero talent like (Mortii Strength, Brutality) would stack with Berzerk and Warhungry? And all skills that activate just before the crit makes its basic attack (eg. Battleblow, Sneak, Warlust) would not stack with Berzerk and Warhungry? Sneak and Warlust will work, I have tried hero talent Warhungry (8) and firestorm, Leo + centaur chief (sneak @ 75%) can still deliver 65k+ with decent runes against neanders. I am experimenting with sneak and faction boosts (conscret, miasma, etc.), however, it still won't come close making up for Berzerk, maybe with high skill upgrades it can still do decent damage with Leo, but unlikely to break a million.
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Post by barleylime on Apr 30, 2018 15:45:10 GMT
So, you mean only skills that up the crit's attacking stats at the start of turn (eg. Leo's , Feral Fever, Bane) and hero talent like (Mortii Strength, Brutality) would stack with Berzerk and Warhungry? And all skills that activate just before the crit makes its basic attack (eg. Battleblow, Sneak, Warlust) would not stack with Berzerk and Warhungry? Sneak and Warlust will work, I have tried hero talent Warhungry (8) and firestorm, Leo + centaur chief (sneak @ 75%) can still deliver 65k+ with decent runes against neanders. I am experimenting with sneak and faction boosts (conscret, miasma, etc.), however, it still won't come close making up for Berzerk, maybe with high skill upgrades it can still do decent damage with Leo, but unlikely to break a million. hmmm,... looks like there's still a lot of unknown with regards to Warhungry and Berzerk. looks like I'll also have to experiment on my own.
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Post by n4k3dm1k3 on Apr 30, 2018 17:14:29 GMT
Nothing is unkonwn - Warhungry and berserk both grant battleblow. It was patched so that only one source of battleblow can proc on a single turn.
The only 'unknown' would depend on order - which skills proc in which order? That would decide what battleblow multiplier gets applied. Lots of forum members have commented on this over multiple threads.
If you read the skill description for both berserk and warhungry, they both say the skill grants creatures the battleblow skill, so it should be fairly clear what will work and what will not.
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Post by barleylime on Apr 30, 2018 22:53:25 GMT
Nothing is unkonwn - Warhungry and berserk both grant battleblow. It was patched so that only one source of battleblow can proc on a single turn. The only 'unknown' would depend on order - which skills proc in which order? That would decide what battleblow multiplier gets applied. Lots of forum members have commented on this over multiple threads. If you read the skill description for both berserk and warhungry, they both say the skill grants creatures the battleblow skill, so it should be fairly clear what will work and what will not. So you mean only one from "Battleblow, Berzerk and Warhungry" will proc? And any other skills can stack with anyone of "Battleblow, Berzerk and Warhungry"?
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Post by noname on May 1, 2018 4:02:16 GMT
Nothing is unkonwn - Warhungry and berserk both grant battleblow. It was patched so that only one source of battleblow can proc on a single turn. The only 'unknown' would depend on order - which skills proc in which order? That would decide what battleblow multiplier gets applied. Lots of forum members have commented on this over multiple threads. If you read the skill description for both berserk and warhungry, they both say the skill grants creatures the battleblow skill, so it should be fairly clear what will work and what will not. So you mean only one from "Battleblow, Berzerk and Warhungry" will proc? And any other skills can stack with anyone of "Battleblow, Berzerk and Warhungry"? warlust can stack with bb
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Post by n4k3dm1k3 on May 1, 2018 14:19:26 GMT
Nothing is unkonwn - Warhungry and berserk both grant battleblow. It was patched so that only one source of battleblow can proc on a single turn. The only 'unknown' would depend on order - which skills proc in which order? That would decide what battleblow multiplier gets applied. Lots of forum members have commented on this over multiple threads. If you read the skill description for both berserk and warhungry, they both say the skill grants creatures the battleblow skill, so it should be fairly clear what will work and what will not. So you mean only one from "Battleblow, Berzerk and Warhungry" will proc? And any other skills can stack with anyone of "Battleblow, Berzerk and Warhungry"? Warhungry and berserk give creatures battleblow for one turn, now creatures cannot proc battleblow more than once per turn. -- This also matches with not being able to meld another BB skill onto a creature that already has it. The same should be true for impact and battle set. Berserk and warhungry are HERO talents and proc whenever the correct conditions are met. Battleblow is a CREATURE skill, and is now limited to a single instance per creature - regardless of the source. Beserk and Warhungry are not creature skills, but they grant creatures a skill for one turn. The only part I am not clear on is if a creature has the battleblow skill already, if warhungry and berserk grant extra chances to proc battleblow and which order these attempts would be checked. Eg. a creature had BB1, but warhungry procs - granting a 300% battleblow (max) with 100% chance. Does the warhungry battleblow override BB1, only proc is BB1 does not, or can the creature only proc BB1. My limited testing when the patch came out suggested that all creatures will proc battleblow - but I cannot remember if I saw a regular BB proc rather than a warhungry gifted BB. I cannot remember no BB occuring, but I have not looked at this in any detail for a while. Any other skill which specifically grants battleblow should also not work with a battleblow granted by the battelblwo creature skill, or the one turn battleblows granted by the warhungry, berserk, impact, and battelset hero talents
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Post by n4k3dm1k3 on May 1, 2018 14:25:04 GMT
So you mean only one from "Battleblow, Berzerk and Warhungry" will proc? And any other skills can stack with anyone of "Battleblow, Berzerk and Warhungry"? warlust can stack with bb because warlust does not grant battleblow, it is a seperate attck enhancing skill. Battleblow and warlust also act as attack multipliers, meaning the order they triggure does not matter. They also grant attack increases based on the current attack (then it procs) - so any runes, creature buffs and attack building (including limited sources such as heal rune?) are included before the multipliers are applied (unless something, eg. soulswap acts after battleblow procs)
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Post by barleylime on May 2, 2018 13:37:20 GMT
warlust can stack with bb because warlust does not grant battleblow, it is a seperate attck enhancing skill. Battleblow and warlust also act as attack multipliers, meaning the order they triggure does not matter. They also grant attack increases based on the current attack (then it procs) - so any runes, creature buffs and attack building (including limited sources such as heal rune?) are included before the multipliers are applied (unless something, eg. soulswap acts after battleblow procs) Do you know any other multipliers besides BattleBlow, Warhungry, Berzerk, Battleset?
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Post by n4k3dm1k3 on May 2, 2018 15:24:09 GMT
because warlust does not grant battleblow, it is a seperate attck enhancing skill. Battleblow and warlust also act as attack multipliers, meaning the order they triggure does not matter. They also grant attack increases based on the current attack (then it procs) - so any runes, creature buffs and attack building (including limited sources such as heal rune?) are included before the multipliers are applied (unless something, eg. soulswap acts after battleblow procs) Do you know any other multipliers besides BattleBlow, Warhungry, Berzerk, Battleset? Warlust, Bane, Miasma, Concentrate, Ravage, sneak, sneak rune, Soul Reap (to summons), chainstrike, bullseye rune, harrow. Technically sacrifice. All of these are conditional in some way, except harrow I guess. FFS all those listed are battleblow! You seem to be completely missing that vital detail
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Post by barleylime on May 4, 2018 14:43:57 GMT
Do you know any other multipliers besides BattleBlow, Warhungry, Berzerk, Battleset? Warlust, Bane, Miasma, Concentrate, Ravage, sneak, sneak rune, Soul Reap (to summons), chainstrike, bullseye rune, harrow. Technically sacrifice. All of these are conditional in some way, except harrow I guess. FFS all those listed are battleblow! You seem to be completely missing that vital detail I'm looking for multipliers that can damage the hero. So far only: Hero buff: Warhungry, Berzerk Self buff: Battleblow, Hero Hunter Buff from other crits: Roar, Dragon Ascension.
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