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Post by zamock on Mar 21, 2018 13:57:50 GMT
Cyber Eye was added to LP mall and i was wondering about its viability in higher tier decks. I can see it working very well with WH. There are many times you end up killing creatures instead of removing them, and when you don't have a Paragon(my case), that can be troublesome. This card helps to patch that problem. A detonate meld would make it even more awesome. Immunity 8 + Rebirth 8 is a great value combo. What do you guys think?
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Post by japoon on Mar 23, 2018 3:50:29 GMT
No use for this card. It have to be killed when the card removal effect. Most likely when it have been killed. All creatures from opponent graveyard been recycled or revived already
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Post by valinorean on Mar 23, 2018 22:21:31 GMT
I would say it is far better than Rakshasa. And about recycling that's what Paragon stops.
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Post by zamock on Mar 24, 2018 11:43:35 GMT
No use for this card. It have to be killed when the card removal effect. Most likely when it have been killed. All creatures from opponent graveyard been recycled or revived already You are implying that it's hard to kill this card. I don't understand. Cyber Eye seems to have a very low HP pool. I guess when upgraded and leveled up it has less than 2k HP, if you don't rune it with prot/vit. One Taurus Attack can get rid of it easily. It doesn't have dodge either, so it would eat normal basic damage too. Yes, if you don't have Paragon, your opponent can rev/recy fast but not that fast. You can still "snipe" cards away from graveyard. I say that from my own experience. Not to mention the fights when your WH cripples the opponent by destroying one rev/recy right in the beginning.
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Post by n4k3dm1k3 on Mar 26, 2018 16:14:03 GMT
I guess skill order will not work correctly if you meld [d]insta onto it as the melded skill would proc last - am I correct?
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Post by zamock on Mar 26, 2018 22:17:03 GMT
I guess skill order will not work correctly if you meld [d]insta onto it as the melded skill would proc last - am I correct? That is a good question. Both third and fourth skill have the same condition(when destroyed). Which one takes precedence? I think the creature already needs to be in the graveyard to Vaporize activate.
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Post by lotnar on Mar 27, 2018 6:22:29 GMT
Considering the big cost (20 unmelded), I think best choice would be to use it un-melded, since we want to have it killed easier. Considering you have enough room to use it melded, I would meld Bloodrage on it, to help it die while increasing his attack (obvious if Disposal/[D]Instakill does not work).
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Post by noname on Mar 27, 2018 20:16:23 GMT
Considering the big cost (20 unmelded), I think best choice would be to use it un-melded, since we want to have it killed easier. Considering you have enough room to use it melded, I would meld Bloodrage on it, to help it die while increasing his attack (obvious if Disposal/[D]Instakill does not work). Detonate with detonate rune is the best meld for it
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Post by n4k3dm1k3 on Mar 28, 2018 14:03:39 GMT
Detonate with detonate rune is the best meld for it I agree with this, but rune would need to be high level to make up for evolved cost/extra HP - providing the skill activates under detonate that is!
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Post by nuke on Mar 28, 2018 16:12:03 GMT
Detonate with detonate rune is the best meld for it I agree with this, but rune would need to be high level to make up for evolved cost/extra HP - providing the skill activates under detonate that is! It's a (D) skill, so I would expect it to
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Post by Nafai✪APeXNFS on Mar 29, 2018 9:01:54 GMT
Best meld for it is rev or rec2 as it has immunity and rebirth.
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Post by JayBase on Apr 2, 2018 4:37:47 GMT
Best meld for it is Detonate, high rebirth rune and no imu rune as you want it to die. Does it have a place in high tier decks. yes very definitely. As the best strategy for Ronin deck builds is based on card removal. Cyber Eye, Rakshasa, Loki, are the card removers for my Ronin decks and is an effective answer to getting rid of Nereid Revive and Recycle melds.
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Post by zamock on Apr 2, 2018 19:40:55 GMT
Thanks for the answers guys. I believe it's worth the LP investment.
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Post by n4k3dm1k3 on Apr 4, 2018 15:01:44 GMT
This feels like a MD vs VS thing all over again
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Post by JayBase on Apr 6, 2018 19:36:14 GMT
Here is an example of a card removal setup I have been playing with. Dont have Detonate melded to Cyber yet. Need more copies.
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Post by haohao96 on Apr 9, 2018 3:25:20 GMT
Any thoughts on revive cyber eye? since he has i8 as well has rebirth
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Post by JayBase on Apr 14, 2018 7:20:11 GMT
Our Tournament top 2 have it melded with Detonate, Revive and Rec 3. They have also how ever upgraded Cybers rebirth to its max. And the cards are sitting in decks with lvl9 and 10 Ronins. Which at this lvl do not require any rage control cards.
Would be fun to see the top 3 from all the servers got at it for a World Champ title.
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Post by zamock on Apr 14, 2018 18:36:25 GMT
Our Tournament top 2 have it melded with Detonate, Revive and Rec 3. They have also how ever upgraded Cybers rebirth to its max. And the cards are sitting in decks with lvl9 and 10 Ronins. Which at this lvl do not require any rage control cards. Would be fun to see the top 3 from all the servers got at it for a World Champ title. Holy s*** ! It seems VERYY badass these decks. You would need to destroy those cyber eyes or lock them in graveyard with torment. Still very hard to do,
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Post by zamock on Apr 14, 2018 18:38:44 GMT
I would love if IGG could turn the Vaporize skill into real game mechanic, like (s)Vaporize and (d)Vaporize.
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Post by JayBase on Apr 20, 2018 23:12:11 GMT
shhh, dont give them ideas haha I have had to start putting money into my Lokito lvl him up to his max. Its going to take me another 6 x lvl15 omni to do. But once done he will be perfect for nailing these high lvl Artolia and Nereid decks. Since getting them into a graveyard is extremely difficult at high lvl. This is one of the decks I need to beat. Artolia and Nereids melded with Revive and Rec 3.
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Post by loranneman on Apr 21, 2018 18:58:31 GMT
Seems like with my 95k lp and allready an sa9 i should invest in cyber eye nog wraith? I have 3 torment rune a swarm and hanzo rune allready. So it's between those 2
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Post by zamock on Apr 25, 2018 1:23:13 GMT
If you still don't have WH, so far, it seems you don't really need it. Maybe you would be better off with Cyber Eye(you could even try to meld detonate).
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Post by zamock on Apr 25, 2018 1:27:04 GMT
shhh, dont give them ideas haha I have had to start putting money into my Lokito lvl him up to his max. Its going to take me another 6 x lvl15 omni to do. But once done he will be perfect for nailing these high lvl Artolia and Nereid decks. Since getting them into a graveyard is extremely difficult at high lvl. This is one of the decks I need to beat. Artolia and Nereids melded with Revive and Rec 3. Man i cannot even start to think how i could beat this type of deck. It simply out of my league. You must be a very old player to be able to compete with this. Congrats
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Post by n4k3dm1k3 on Apr 25, 2018 13:13:44 GMT
Is the torment rune worth investing in first? I would take consealed strike if I were near a hanzo, but I am a ways off yet.
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Post by dendeze on Apr 26, 2018 6:21:18 GMT
Is the torment rune worth investing in first? I would take consealed strike if I were near a hanzo, but I am a ways off yet. a high level Torment is very good (even better if you have immunity on paragon.)
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Post by n4k3dm1k3 on Apr 26, 2018 13:20:39 GMT
Is the torment rune worth investing in first? I would take consealed strike if I were near a hanzo, but I am a ways off yet. a high level Torment is very good (even better if you have immunity on paragon.) But is it worth 50 WH shards?
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Post by zamock on Apr 27, 2018 17:00:56 GMT
Is the torment rune worth investing in first? I would take consealed strike if I were near a hanzo, but I am a ways off yet. I think it's only worth at lvl 10 and if your creatures are dying too much. So you need to decide if you want to spend extra LP to lvl it to 10.
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Post by asgarth1980 on Apr 29, 2018 4:38:18 GMT
a high level Torment is very good (even better if you have immunity on paragon.) But is it worth 50 WH shards? definitely
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Post by barleylime on Apr 29, 2018 10:21:17 GMT
Between Cyber Eye and Rakshasa, which is better?
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