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Post by n4k3dm1k3 on Apr 25, 2018 17:35:56 GMT
That's absolutely mind blowing! And with a fean deck?? I struggle to get 1 M dmg, that too with a Zora set up. Low level zora or using FA cards? Unbound panthers are great, but need some support to keep them alive initially. Perhaps bloodlust PL would be good - or BB8. I struggled to make a viable zora deck (when compared to my zerker deck) - but perhaps with Octavius I should try again. I think it was because I never got my mix right. I wanted something I could auto instead of zerker. I may try a human zora deck as I have tonnes of oracles these days! Finally put that LS techno I have to some use
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Post by brainstorm813 on Apr 25, 2018 17:36:04 GMT
Or use unholy creatures exclusively, some melded with bless, others with mass heal?
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Post by brainstorm813 on Apr 25, 2018 17:39:08 GMT
That's absolutely mind blowing! And with a fean deck?? I struggle to get 1 M dmg, that too with a Zora set up. Low level zora or using FA cards? Unbound panthers are great, but need some support to keep them alive initially. Perhaps bloodlust PL would be good - or BB8. I struggled to make a viable zora deck (when compared to my zerker deck) - but perhaps with Octavius I should try again. I think it was because I never got my mix right. I wanted something I could auto instead of zerker. I may try a human zora deck as I have tonnes of oracles these days! Finally put that LS techno I have to some use Level 6 Zora. Don't know if that's low level. But yes, I use mostly FA creatures at the moment. Otherwise they die too quickly to deal much damage.
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Post by skal75 on Apr 25, 2018 18:46:35 GMT
So I made the video. Warning : Unless you have unlimited data, you'd better click on this link if you're on wifi/ethernet network. Despite my edit (video speed and two cuts), the file is still 260Mb big. What is interesting here : - I voluntarily put a large number of faens and ignored Drone - This was to show how solid the deck is. - ... and to illustrate the "counter" nature of the healing rune => the more damage the creature takes, the more it is healed, the more damage it does next turn - So await no record here, as my creatures are often paralyzed. - Furthermore, no regrets, as my biggest damage dealer (bloodlust ash beast) comes into play at 9th position. So at the end it's only 1M damage... I let you imagine the same fight with a drone and the 2 damage dealers in 2nd and 3rd position. Please tell me what you think about this. Predator Faen Deck in GM
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Post by brainstorm813 on Apr 25, 2018 21:11:04 GMT
So I made the video. Warning : Unless you have unlimited data, you'd better click on this link if you're on wifi/ethernet network. Despite my edit (video speed and two cuts), the file is still 260Mb big. What is interesting here : - I voluntarily put a large number of faens and ignored Drone - This was to show how solid the deck is. - ... and to illustrate the "counter" nature of the healing rune => the more damage the creature takes, the more it is healed, the more damage it does next turn - So await no record here, as my creatures are often paralyzed. - Furthermore, no regrets, as my biggest damage dealer (bloodlust ash beast) comes into play at 9th position. So at the end it's only 1M damage... I let you imagine the same fight with a drone and the 2 damage dealers in 2nd and 3rd position. Please tell me what you think about this. Predator Faen Deck in GMThat's great! My Predator is still at level 8 I think. I also think that you could do with one or two Henriettas. That cleanse could have been useful. Also, what are your equipment stats?
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Post by skal75 on Apr 25, 2018 21:28:28 GMT
Now that I don't need Henrietta to unseal creatures anymore, I 'll start to farm and use her. It's the last 4* faen of interest I did not farm. And you're right, she deserves to be played.
Predator is level 10. - No atk bonus on equipment (I managed to craft the weakiest possible gold equipments until now, with no bonus of any kind, not to mention all the failures ;-) ) - Heal Amplifying III lvl 8 - Faen Vigor V lvl 5 - Faen Might IV lvl 6 - All Might III lvl 7
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Post by brainstorm813 on Apr 26, 2018 6:27:09 GMT
Will it be a good idea to meld cleanse on Horned Beast? Now that I don't need Henrietta to unseal creatures anymore, I 'll start to farm and use her. It's the last 4* faen of interest I did not farm. And you're right, she deserves to be played. Predator is level 10. - No atk bonus on equipment (I managed to craft the weakiest possible gold equipments until now, with no bonus of any kind, not to mention all the failures ;-) ) - Heal Amplifying III lvl 8 - Faen Vigor V lvl 5 - Faen Might IV lvl 6 - All Might III lvl 7
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Post by brainstorm813 on Apr 26, 2018 6:29:17 GMT
I tried my luck melding a level 5 dodge equipment today with all gold materials and a level 3 gold equipment. Got a purple level 5 with only 11% bonus. How do I craft a level 5 Gold equipment?
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Post by n4k3dm1k3 on Apr 26, 2018 13:04:18 GMT
Low level zora or using FA cards? Unbound panthers are great, but need some support to keep them alive initially. Perhaps bloodlust PL would be good - or BB8. I struggled to make a viable zora deck (when compared to my zerker deck) - but perhaps with Octavius I should try again. I think it was because I never got my mix right. I wanted something I could auto instead of zerker. I may try a human zora deck as I have tonnes of oracles these days! Finally put that LS techno I have to some use Level 6 Zora. Don't know if that's low level. But yes, I use mostly FA creatures at the moment. Otherwise they die too quickly to deal much damage. Yeah that would be why, FA makes Zora a bit pointless as it really limits the damage output. I ran one earlier with 4 oracles but my michael died (got very unlucky with delays) and I ended up on about 700k. Didn't put the heal rune on and 3 oracles in the last 4 cards was a bit much, but he did get the HB before he went. Unbound lifesap are good for this, as well as heal+HPboosts to keep guys alive at the start, lifesap+sweep. Can use MD with his big heal. With FA I guess Zora doesn't get the skill off enough to kepp it up all the time against a full deck. Good all vigor rune should help too. I can think of some decent melds for this type of deck but they wouldn't be useful otherwise.
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Post by n4k3dm1k3 on Apr 26, 2018 13:19:03 GMT
I tried my luck melding a level 5 dodge equipment today with all gold materials and a level 3 gold equipment. Got a purple level 5 with only 11% bonus. How do I craft a level 5 Gold equipment? well the likelyhood of 2 L5 purples in a row is 33%, 3 in a row is 20% and 4 is 11% - so the odds are in your favour for gold L5 next time! It should take on average 14 L5 crafts to get 6 L5 gold equips - but the RNG on such small data sets will be high. Just keep going, you can get 2 lucky flips per day for 5 gems (+15 gems for 2 more as many times as you like) if you want to speed it up abit - but if you want only a specific piece then it won't help as much. If you go heavy on the flips, you might pull some sparks too - but not enough to use.
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Post by brainstorm813 on Apr 26, 2018 13:42:26 GMT
Yeah I got 5 sparks so far. It will take years to get a level 5 gold equipment then. I tried my luck melding a level 5 dodge equipment today with all gold materials and a level 3 gold equipment. Got a purple level 5 with only 11% bonus. How do I craft a level 5 Gold equipment? well the likelyhood of 2 L5 purples in a row is 33%, 3 in a row is 20% and 4 is 11% - so the odds are in your favour for gold L5 next time! It should take on average 14 L5 crafts to get 6 L5 gold equips - but the RNG on such small data sets will be high. Just keep going, you can get 2 lucky flips per day for 5 gems (+15 gems for 2 more as many times as you like) if you want to speed it up abit - but if you want only a specific piece then it won't help as much. If you go heavy on the flips, you might pull some sparks too - but not enough to use.
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Post by n4k3dm1k3 on Apr 26, 2018 14:15:43 GMT
Yeah I got 5 sparks so far. It will take years to get a level 5 gold equipment then. well the likelyhood of 2 L5 purples in a row is 33%, 3 in a row is 20% and 4 is 11% - so the odds are in your favour for gold L5 next time! It should take on average 14 L5 crafts to get 6 L5 gold equips - but the RNG on such small data sets will be high. Just keep going, you can get 2 lucky flips per day for 5 gems (+15 gems for 2 more as many times as you like) if you want to speed it up abit - but if you want only a specific piece then it won't help as much. If you go heavy on the flips, you might pull some sparks too - but not enough to use. I posted an estimate (based on crafting materials alone) in the L5 equipment thread along with the imporved method for crafting L3 gear - it works out at something like 4 years for all L5 gold. Expectation is to craft an L5 about once every 3 months. Its quite hard to estimate the impact of flipping without someone putting 10k gems into it (and a buttload of time!) so we can extrapolte an expectation of flip rewards. I can say if you pull a gold, it can save you about 3 weeks for the outer 2 or 16 days for the inner ones. Any purple is 5 days 8 hours and blue is about 32 hours - so they can stack up pretty quickly. Each L5 attempt requires 21 purple, 1 green and 16 whites (plus whatever is needed to get the correct orange mats when dismantleing). Thats 337 green crafts at 3 a day!
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Post by brainstorm813 on Apr 26, 2018 16:04:29 GMT
Yeah I got 5 sparks so far. It will take years to get a level 5 gold equipment then. I posted an estimate (based on crafting materials alone) in the L5 equipment thread along with the imporved method for crafting L3 gear - it works out at something like 4 years for all L5 gold. Expectation is to craft an L5 about once every 3 months. Its quite hard to estimate the impact of flipping without someone putting 10k gems into it (and a buttload of time!) so we can extrapolte an expectation of flip rewards. I can say if you pull a gold, it can save you about 3 weeks for the outer 2 or 16 days for the inner ones. Any purple is 5 days 8 hours and blue is about 32 hours - so they can stack up pretty quickly. Each L5 attempt requires 21 purple, 1 green and 16 whites (plus whatever is needed to get the correct orange mats when dismantleing). Thats 337 green crafts at 3 a day! I understand it a bit better now. There's no quick way without primal rifts.
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Post by jp on Apr 27, 2018 5:35:12 GMT
I tried my luck melding a level 5 dodge equipment today with all gold materials and a level 3 gold equipment. Got a purple level 5 with only 11% bonus. How do I craft a level 5 Gold equipment? I feel you my friend, if it makes you feel any better, just failed my 3rd one in a row today, 15.xx, 10.xx, 13.xx %, can it get any worse?, now we have to start all over again because those lvl 5 purples are worthless.
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Post by brainstorm813 on Apr 27, 2018 6:31:36 GMT
I tried my luck melding a level 5 dodge equipment today with all gold materials and a level 3 gold equipment. Got a purple level 5 with only 11% bonus. How do I craft a level 5 Gold equipment? I feel you my friend, if it makes you feel any better, just failed my 3rd one in a row today, 15.xx, 10.xx, 13.xx %, can it get any worse?, now we have to start all over again because those lvl 5 purples are worthless. That means a lot more grinding. Does the chance of gold change after each attempt?
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Post by aristhebarbarian on Apr 28, 2018 15:31:45 GMT
Just to clarify my post : nidhogg and QT are the ONLY creatures I gave mass heal to for real. But the initial question was : who whould you give mass heal to ? So I tried to answer with this in mind. Tauros elder and Satyr Sentry could get mass heal too... Satyr in an all faen mass heal deck. Tauros with a nice block rune. Truth is : best healers already have mass heal. And they're known For faens : - Treent guide (the ultimate F2P mass healer, I use 3 melded with Sprite Link in some maps) - Horned beast (mine is melded with rage boost 9) - Treent Elder (just love this card. mine is I7 with restoration 7 and picking off 10. tough guy. will bring him to restoration 10) - Ash beast (map killer with bloodlust. did 1.8M damage with it in a predator mostly faen deck) - Naga Mistress (I7, but uses magic, so should be the only magic crit in your deck, else you might lose the benefit of your grizzli rage control) For humans : - oracle (well, so perfect, keep on farming them For neanders : - blood warlock (the usual earth totem one) Isn't there a suitable 4 star neander or Mortii healer? I was thinking about Hell Knight. Although it doesn't offer much protection save Unbound. For neander, you can use an Ursa major, if you are desperate.He is not the best option though because stab7 will trigger enemy rage.I'm thinking of putting mass heal on him too but I consider him more of a tanky fighter than a support crit. Nean raptor is great overall healer because he can be used in Spiky decks,and he can survive enough with medium hp pool.Also he can be used in gauntlet or trials in many situations so if you go for him you can have him in multiple places.He is not the man but he is easy to acquire and very usefull.The only downside is that his rip is wasted in GM, but everywhere else is a sweet bonus. For mortii decks now probably you know that Recycle-rebirth (their strengths) don't match with GM.Howewer.there are some annoying faen GM that challenge you to play bane.So a good card is a pit lord with frost armor.Have 6-7 FA-melded of them alongside 3-4 oracles and you are good in a zora deck.Firstly they can have unholly pact 7*6 copies = more 2100 hp and approximately 3,5 k hp in frost armor creatures.Secondly they have life sap so even if you lockdowned multiple times you can attack one time and you get full health back.Thirdly with bane you deal multiple damage and lifesap becomes even bigger.With some Im7-9 oracles you can get some healing but in a 10vs10 faen map you are not very well unless you put them huge HP runes and a good heal amplify rune at zora that will restore their hp every turn.All that in the case that you face 10 creatures and don't have mithril drone.Then even 3-fa oracles,the drone and pit lords can do devastating damage(I cannot confirm it though because I don't have the drone). Now if you still want a mortii healer you can try a hell Knight (that will heal you every turn thanks to unbound) or if you can spare a harbinger (thanks to dodge+soul swap+ rebirth that will guarantee some turns of healing + a chance for comeback with rebirth).The last is a yolo meld.There are many far better melds for Harbinger than that (but if you want a mortii healer you can try it and see how it goes)...
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Post by skal75 on Apr 29, 2018 9:45:53 GMT
An illustration of what happens when you hit a HB in a healing deck. Look at its attack : The result with NO bloodlust creature (was trying to make not too much damage) : The deck :
Conclusion : Faens for ever ! ;-)
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