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Post by aristhebarbarian on May 15, 2018 13:55:12 GMT
I'm in a small guild and I want to do high damage (above 150k).Which 5* heroes do you suggest and what talents in the 2018 meta?Is there anyone?
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Post by ruklo on May 15, 2018 17:14:55 GMT
there are a lot of post, just search old posts.
but probably one of the best, fast and achivable guild deck:
Berserk + FA (frost armor) neander creatures (panther, twins, graboid) + bless blood warlock
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Post by jp on May 15, 2018 22:24:30 GMT
There are many heroes you can use, don't have to be 5*, I will list some.
5* All 5*, skill- Warhungry, firestorm, creatures with warlust, sneak meld, sweeping blow, faction boost (bane, miasma, etc.), doesn't do alot of damage but are capable 100-300k+, depend on what creature and melds you have.
Odin(ore mall)- mid damage Captivator(tournament mall)- mid high damage Warlock (tournament mall)- to negate rip maps
4* Berserker- mid high/high damage predator- mid/mid high damage, very good rage control
3* Patriach- low/mid damage depend on hero lvl gladiator- low/mid damage depend on hero lvl chaos witch- rage control
2* Zora- mid/mid high damage
Low = up to 499k, Mid = 500 to 999k, Mid high = 1 to 1.49mil, high = 1.5mil+, these are all estimates, changes with what setup you have and some times depending on luck.
Easiest to use are Warhungry but after the nerf it just doesn't do that much damage without some special creatures or melds, but if you are just looking at 150k+ almost everything I listed will work, even with Chaos witch I can do around 4/500k without anything special.
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Post by n4k3dm1k3 on May 16, 2018 14:44:03 GMT
The hero is only important if you are leveraging there skill for damage or defence - such as zora, beserker, predator. Odin and Cap are good as their damage is idependant of the lineup (obviously you do more damage if you can generate more rage)
Outside of heroes that build creatures attacks (beserker boars, zora or paw master - see other forum post) you want a mix of: a) blessers and healers to keep your creatures and hero alive for the whole fight (note higher hero HP means your hero will take more damage from the enemy hero ~25-30K is a good number to work with) use FA oracles for most situations, treants and blood worlocks with faction boosting melds are strong in faction decks b) attack building creatures, eg. bloodlust swordmaster c) rage control - QT on the end most of the time - a voodoo rune if its a full map and the hero skill is something to worry about d) specifics to counter rip/retreat/dance macabre/disposal/paladins/harlots - worlock or a good clense works wonders for status effect clearing. i10, stoneskin, block rune works in specific circumstances. for harlots, arcane sage will damage opposite and adjacent harlots, battleblow rune works well and poison skills can be used. All instant direct damage also works, but flamesummoner/KQ delayed damage is generally removed by manta each turn e) take a mythril drone to counter magic damage - this will up your surviivability on many maps
This topic comes up a lot, have a search through the threads of GM and guid maps - fairly recent indepth discussions set out tactics for faen predator/treant deck, I've put out plently on boar decks and we had an interesting Octavius+paw master deck thats also good for sorceryV grim. Zora is covered previously in detail. Some older tactics are no longer valid (warhungry+beserk or wright) so make sure you work on soemthing that is currently active.
My advise is to meld a few bloodlust SMs (upgraded if you have essences) and FA oracles - they can fit in to a bunch of different decks and are great when you need to use worlock. You can sub in odin or cap as the hero for damage when you don't need prayer. Multi-crit damagers are generally good to use (octavius etc) if you have them. You may need soemthing against FA on occasion. Do not expect any immunity under 10 to counter retreat - it will get you eventually.
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Post by zamock on May 17, 2018 20:55:55 GMT
Guys above have already covered a lot of the basics, but i will also suggest 5* hero Judgement from Tournament mall. It helps you to make a deck that can survive longer without relying too much on heals and FA.
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Post by n4k3dm1k3 on May 18, 2018 13:51:53 GMT
Guys above have already covered a lot of the basics, but i will also suggest 5* hero Judgement from Tournament mall. It helps you to make a deck that can survive longer without relying too much on heals and FA. would you advise obtaining judgement and building a deck around him though? ?Which creatures would make the deck kick our some decent damage in your opinion
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Post by zamock on May 18, 2018 22:10:54 GMT
Guys above have already covered a lot of the basics, but i will also suggest 5* hero Judgement from Tournament mall. It helps you to make a deck that can survive longer without relying too much on heals and FA. would you advise obtaining judgement and building a deck around him though? ?Which creatures would make the deck kick our some decent damage in your opinion A magic dmg deck is pretty good with Judgement. The setup i use is Octavius + Blossoms, Gemini, Kirtana, Incinerate 8 Flamebrave. All of them fire runed. The rest you can fill in with some support(heal *, Bless * and rage control). If you don´t have enough rage stealing/production, you can use mythrl drone to help you to survive the first few rounds. Heal amplify rune helps too. You can easily do 500k+ dmg in map 1,2 and 3. The weakness of this deck are the human maps(MD and AD). For those i just swap the magic dmg cards with Bullseye/batteblow/stoneskin/immunity cards. Not the most efficient deck, but i like it * Mass heal with Healer rune works really nice with Octavius. * Bless with rune is another great way to generate rage
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Post by ningthou on May 20, 2018 7:01:43 GMT
Captivator any level + Swordmaster blx2 + frosted oracles with bless runes+ Drone + Qt/Hanzo is around 1000k-1500k
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Post by aristhebarbarian on May 25, 2018 12:33:13 GMT
Thank you guys for your answers.Captivator has Crazy Sorrow though.Isn't removed by mantra skill?if not I'll get him and use him (in a few months).
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Post by ningthou on May 25, 2018 15:24:41 GMT
Thank you guys for your answers.Captivator has Crazy Sorrow though.Isn't removed by mantra skill?if not I'll get him and use him (in a few months). Its not removed by Mantra;) Even lvl 1 Cap is very good
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Post by vulcanx88 on May 28, 2018 8:33:59 GMT
I'm currently saving up towards a good all round hero. I'm a ftp player, but want something I can use generally. I'm starting my melds now so I should have some good human sided decks soon. Advice? Captivation still? Odin?
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Post by aristhebarbarian on May 28, 2018 12:13:35 GMT
I'm currently saving up towards a good all round hero. I'm a ftp player, but want something I can use generally. I'm starting my melds now so I should have some good human sided decks soon. Advice? Captivation still? Odin? Odin is good only for Guild maps. Don't waste your ore.Save your ore for buying a Vile Songstress who is good as main hero and have a 4* hero like Dragon Rider,Berseker,Paw Master or a predator for Guild maps.Then with longterm commitment and patience, you can have a Captivator,Judgment,Odin or whatever your deck needs, only for GM.Search for other posts also about 5* heroes and you will get a better idea.
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Post by ningthou on May 28, 2018 13:52:42 GMT
I'm currently saving up towards a good all round hero. I'm a ftp player, but want something I can use generally. I'm starting my melds now so I should have some good human sided decks soon. Advice? Captivation still? Odin? Odin is good only for Guild maps. Don't waste your ore.Save your ore for buying a Vile Songstress who is good as main hero and have a 4* hero like Dragon Rider,Berseker,Paw Master or a predator for Guild maps.Then with longterm commitment and patience, you can have a Captivator,Judgment,Odin or whatever your deck needs, only for GM.Search for other posts also about 5* heroes and you will get a better idea. Actually after the lucidity update, go for Spirit Arbiter instead as Vile is terribly weak now!
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Post by Wilhellm on May 28, 2018 15:28:12 GMT
Odin is good only for Guild maps. Don't waste your ore.Save your ore for buying a Vile Songstress who is good as main hero and have a 4* hero like Dragon Rider,Berseker,Paw Master or a predator for Guild maps.Then with longterm commitment and patience, you can have a Captivator,Judgment,Odin or whatever your deck needs, only for GM.Search for other posts also about 5* heroes and you will get a better idea. Actually after the lucidity update, go for Spirit Arbiter instead as Vile is terribly weak now! They absolutely ruined her. And dude, I had just acquired her when they pulled that sh1t out, maddening...
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Post by noname on May 28, 2018 16:03:09 GMT
Actually after the lucidity update, go for Spirit Arbiter instead as Vile is terribly weak now! They absolutely ruined her. And dude, I had just acquired her when they pulled that sh1t out, maddening... I had gotten her to lvl 4 like a week before the nerf. Its just such a btch move but what else would you expect from those money grubbers.
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Post by jp on May 28, 2018 16:51:55 GMT
They absolutely ruined her. And dude, I had just acquired her when they pulled that sh1t out, maddening... I had gotten her to lvl 4 like a week before the nerf. Its just such a btch move but what else would you expect from those money grubbers. I almost pull the trigger on her because my LvL3 Wraith hunter just couldn't clear map 14-10, but IGG made my decision easy, I mean, she isn't horrible since 95%+ of the player don't have lucidity, but why invest in a crippled hero if you have a choice.
If I still have trouble clearing map 15 with LvL5 Wraith hunter or LvL8 SA, I may come back to her later.
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Post by Wilhellm on May 28, 2018 16:52:52 GMT
They absolutely ruined her. And dude, I had just acquired her when they pulled that sh1t out, maddening... I had gotten her to lvl 4 like a week before the nerf. Its just such a btch move but what else would you expect from those money grubbers. That's what I meant to say to be honest, lol. I had just put her to level 4 too. So much wasted ore... At least I'll prolly get something out of her trying to beat some campaign maps.
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Post by jp on May 28, 2018 17:04:05 GMT
I'm currently saving up towards a good all round hero. I'm a ftp player, but want something I can use generally. I'm starting my melds now so I should have some good human sided decks soon. Advice? Captivation still? Odin?
Right now, Odin and Captivator are luxury cards not for main deck, for FTP, Spirit Arbiter is the best as far as Ore mall is concerned, but keep in mind she needs to be atleast lvl 6/7 to be good, LvL9 is the goal, this may take a long time to accomplish as a FTP.
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Post by scap on May 31, 2018 12:52:24 GMT
I haven't tried it yet but does scourge (Spirit Arbiter) works in guild map ? It's capped at 5000 dmg but it could help sometimes..
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Post by n4k3dm1k3 on Jun 1, 2018 13:46:04 GMT
I haven't tried it yet but does scourge (Spirit Arbiter) works in guild map ? It's capped at 5000 dmg but it could help sometimes.. its great against harlots, if there are just those 2 left it goes off almost every other turn with some rage steal (since they never die, you get loads of rage back) - would work really well using the reflect tactic too.
Its not so great otherwise, since it only hits a limited number of crits - perhaps someone can comment about WH though, I would imagine you could do some nice things with him.
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Post by scap on Jun 3, 2018 17:28:22 GMT
Thanks for the answer
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Post by squirreleyez on Jun 3, 2018 18:26:53 GMT
Odin is good only for Guild maps. Don't waste your ore.Save your ore for buying a Vile Songstress who is good as main hero and have a 4* hero like Dragon Rider,Berseker,Paw Master or a predator for Guild maps.Then with longterm commitment and patience, you can have a Captivator,Judgment,Odin or whatever your deck needs, only for GM.Search for other posts also about 5* heroes and you will get a better idea. Actually after the lucidity update, go for Spirit Arbiter instead as Vile is terribly weak now! Agree, go with Spirit Arbiter. However I wouldn't say VS is TERRIBLY weak, she's still pretty dang good
Also, I'd just save your Predator or Berserker for guild maps.
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