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Post by bartfuture on Oct 2, 2018 9:05:20 GMT
Hi All !!
As a free to play player, Im now facing my biggest dilemma. Going for 5 Octavius' (so i can meld Rec 2 on it), or going for Twilight Ronin. My main question is, ' Which of those 2 is better ' ?
How to obtain these: 1. 5 Octavius'. Well I have 1 Octavius right now. I got it with the Ultima Chest Boost 'Octavius' event. This event is happening again today, thats why i post this message now. it cost me about 32.000 gems to get Octavius with this event. So 4 MORE Octavius' would cost me around 128.000 gems and should take roughly 1 year to complete I would say. 2. Twilight Ronin. As I read in the forums this hero was NOT for free to play in the past. However now she keeps popping up several times per week as purchase package, 10 shards for 22.000 gems. Nice extra to this is 20 sparks. So total cost will be 220.000 for the total hero plus 200 sparks. This would also take roughly 1 year to complete since I need to save up those gems with AB.
What should I go for ? What would be the best deal here ?
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Post by NFS✪Grandfather on Oct 2, 2018 13:44:14 GMT
Ronin is by far better than anything else. So if you are not rushing to get all goodies yet then i strongly recomend to patiently get Ronin. You wont mistake if you do Octa now its for sure good investment and will give you that decent meld. But it will delay Ronin for you very much.
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Post by bartfuture on Oct 2, 2018 18:55:38 GMT
Thanx for the tip. I will go for ronin then. What about the shards ? Make blue L.4 equipment with 100 shards ? or save up for the 250 shards equipment ?
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Post by NFS✪Grandfather on Oct 2, 2018 19:57:57 GMT
Thanx for the tip. I will go for ronin then. What about the shards ? Make blue L.4 equipment with 100 shards ? or save up for the 250 shards equipment ? No, if you aiming to get equipment skill then you should either make Blue Noble Lord with using 100 sparks or Purple Noble Lord (Planewalker Purple is also good) with using 250 sparks. Either choice you make is okay, Blue have skill pool of 5 while Purple contains more something around 12 sklls. You know how to craft that, or want me to give you exact recipe for both for most efficient way?
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Post by bartfuture on Oct 3, 2018 15:31:03 GMT
I read this post about crafting: JayBase•ʛϻʀ Avatar Aug 15, 2017 at 2:01am JayBase•ʛϻʀ said: ev0lution: It is a huge screw up doing it your way. In your example of the lord chest build you are wasting very expensive gold mats. The correct cost effective way of making it would have first been to craft a gold lvl3 iron item. Any one will do, it does not have to be an iron chest to craft a Lord chest like the Nobel Lord chest does. The gold iron item will cost 2 x normal smelting gold mats and 2 x normal smelting purple mats. Then use the gold iron equipment as a gold material in the Nobel Chest craft so you don't waste valuable gold mats like you are doing there. Purple Lord Equipment: 1 gold material + 1 purple material + 1 blue material + 1 white material + Lvl 3 iron gold equip gives you 99.97% purple chance, 0.03% gold. I don't have any Emperors Breath mats right now to show you, so I am using the Thorium chest as an example. The same formula applies. Then for crafting the Nobel Lord blue you use the newly crafted purple lord chest + 2 blue mats + 1 purple mat + 1 gold + 100 spark. This will give you a 54.56% green / 45.44% blue success ratio and a 100% skill success ratio. The reason you want to do it this way is that you only risk the materials if the build fails and not the spark. Should it fail you will end up with green equipment and your spark will be returned. Hope this helps I don't understand it 100% but this looks like the way to go, so that I won't lose any sparks. However, I don't have any Noble Lord material..... It's a little confusing.
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Post by NFS✪Grandfather on Oct 3, 2018 16:12:58 GMT
I read this post about crafting: JayBase•ʛϻʀ Avatar Aug 15, 2017 at 2:01am JayBase•ʛϻʀ said: ev0lution: It is a huge screw up doing it your way. In your example of the lord chest build you are wasting very expensive gold mats. The correct cost effective way of making it would have first been to craft a gold lvl3 iron item. Any one will do, it does not have to be an iron chest to craft a Lord chest like the Nobel Lord chest does. The gold iron item will cost 2 x normal smelting gold mats and 2 x normal smelting purple mats. Then use the gold iron equipment as a gold material in the Nobel Chest craft so you don't waste valuable gold mats like you are doing there. Purple Lord Equipment: 1 gold material + 1 purple material + 1 blue material + 1 white material + Lvl 3 iron gold equip gives you 99.97% purple chance, 0.03% gold. I don't have any Emperors Breath mats right now to show you, so I am using the Thorium chest as an example. The same formula applies. Then for crafting the Nobel Lord blue you use the newly crafted purple lord chest + 2 blue mats + 1 purple mat + 1 gold + 100 spark. This will give you a 54.56% green / 45.44% blue success ratio and a 100% skill success ratio. The reason you want to do it this way is that you only risk the materials if the build fails and not the spark. Should it fail you will end up with green equipment and your spark will be returned. Hope this helps I don't understand it 100% but this looks like the way to go, so that I won't lose any sparks. However, I don't have any Noble Lord material..... It's a little confusing. I will send you later detailed and more simple way to understand and craft equip skills, its easy just follow the instructions that i will send you and you cant make it wrong or fail
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Post by bartfuture on Oct 3, 2018 17:57:36 GMT
wow, much appreciated !!!
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Post by ssbgoku on Oct 3, 2018 18:51:27 GMT
can u also send me that easy method of crafting
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Post by losspurs on Oct 3, 2018 21:53:07 GMT
for me as well, i got lost easily. thank you!
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Post by jp on Oct 4, 2018 3:22:23 GMT
I will send you later detailed and more simple way to understand and craft equip skills, its easy just follow the instructions that i will send you and you cant make it wrong or fail
Much appreciated if you can send it to me as well..
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Post by japoon on Oct 4, 2018 8:56:11 GMT
There were Topics for Crafting Noble Equipment. Find it yourself
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Post by japoon on Oct 4, 2018 9:01:50 GMT
OCTAVIUS WAS NOT AS GOOD AS BEFORE.
Main reason is Survivability not as good as Queen Artola. 1 shot killed by Dragon Lancer.
Damage good but not the Top. Could be reduced
Waiting time 8 was definitely not good.
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Post by valinorean on Oct 4, 2018 18:09:34 GMT
OCTAVIUS WAS NOT AS GOOD AS BEFORE. Main reason is Survivability not as good as Queen Artola. 1 shot killed by Dragon Lancer. Damage good but not the Top. Could be reduced Waiting time 8 was definitely not good. With Muddle waiting time could be nice. Still removes freeze and any other effect. Can't be retreated and autoheals. Can take bladeshard and nullify its effects. Still top 20 people using it! Yes. Not the best damage, not the best survavibility. Artolia can't be compared. QA plays in another realm. Octavious is as good as before, but there are a lot of options now to choose instead. otavious. Waiting time 8. Cost 32!!
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Post by asgarth1980 on Oct 6, 2018 10:51:39 GMT
What kind of question is that.. ronnin is outright powerful.. with the addition of undying cards.. artoila.. neried.. and lots more.. u just cannot compare a top class heroine vs a had been great card..
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Post by bartfuture on Oct 7, 2018 17:24:49 GMT
What level does Ronin need to be to be good enough?
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Post by Mitti on Oct 7, 2018 17:55:47 GMT
Of course go for Ronin,is good even at lvl 1 but start to be good at 4 and 7+ beast
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Post by asgarth1980 on Oct 13, 2018 22:06:10 GMT
Of course go for Ronin,is good even at lvl 1 but start to be good at 4 and 7+ beast at level 1..ronnin needs rage controller.. at much higher u dun need rage controllers.. just need undying cards and let the hero kill all..
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Post by ksdiegoo on Oct 13, 2018 23:22:12 GMT
Sorry, but I want to use this thread to ask. I have an account with 250k in gems when Alice ends, is it possible to get ronin in this account? Thanks in advance
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Post by NFS✪Grandfather on Oct 14, 2018 10:37:02 GMT
Sorry, but I want to use this thread to ask. I have an account with 250k in gems when Alice ends, is it possible to get ronin in this account? Thanks in advance Yes, you can easily get it with buying value packs. But before you start getting them make sure that you have at least 60k gems in reserve, saved for AB so that you dont end spending all your gems and then leaving yourself gemless.
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Post by ksdiegoo on Oct 15, 2018 15:18:51 GMT
Sorry, but I want to use this thread to ask. I have an account with 250k in gems when Alice ends, is it possible to get ronin in this account? Thanks in advance Yes, you can easily get it with buying value packs. But before you start getting them make sure that you have at least 60k gems in reserve, saved for AB so that you dont end spending all your gems and then leaving yourself gemless. Thanks bro.
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Post by asgarth1980 on Oct 16, 2018 13:26:25 GMT
An f... up game.. now even a level 90 can have a ronnin ... kena whipped by a level 90 with ronnin dark summomer.. rev queen artoila.. etc... what the ffffffff game... i played since the game started and i am getting pissed off..
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Post by dendeze on Oct 16, 2018 13:33:41 GMT
An f... up game.. now even a level 90 can have a ronnin ... kena whipped by a level 90 with ronnin dark summomer.. rev queen artoila.. etc... what the ffffffff game... i played since the game started and i am getting pissed off.. Well, did you pay your monthly fee to IGG? (i guess not since you are the prob the highst ranked ftp player ) (i've seen ronin at lvl 70 with that kinde setup )
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Post by 1501✪NFS on Oct 16, 2018 14:12:36 GMT
and those accounts are alt account mostly. those acc can save up to 500k gems if they didnt spend any gems from start
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Post by asgarth1980 on Oct 16, 2018 14:46:01 GMT
An f... up game.. now even a level 90 can have a ronnin ... kena whipped by a level 90 with ronnin dark summomer.. rev queen artoila.. etc... what the ffffffff game... i played since the game started and i am getting pissed off.. Well, did you pay your monthly fee to IGG? (i guess not since you are the prob the highst ranked ftp player ) (i've seen ronin at lvl 70 with that kinde setup ) the fees i paid are my time.. Dont think my time is cheap... it just pissed me off because in deck duels the player with ronnin can just sit and wait it out till the hero whacks ur 6k paragorn to less than 2k and then swing the heavy bomber like dark summoner to clear the house...also waste my time i dun like.....
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Post by NFS✪Grandfather on Oct 16, 2018 16:04:01 GMT
For whining you can use this: help.DeckHeroes@igg.com
Or i can make special section for whiners, thats also fine and solid option, eveyone can post there complaining how hard is life of f2p (imagine that).
Now something related to thread: Ronin value pack is cheaper than other value packs (mostly). For example couple days ago Ronin value costed 22500 gems, now today there is Frost Empress value for 29500, thats significant difference in cost and value. So if that price of Ronin value packs stays for some time longer and if value keepes apearing in game, getting Ronin is very reasonable idea as f2p.
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Post by evolution on Oct 17, 2018 8:26:31 GMT
For whining you can use this: help.DeckHeroes@igg.com Or i can make special section for whiners, thats also fine and solid option, eveyone can post there complaining how hard is life of f2p (imagine that). Now something related to thread: Ronin value pack is cheaper than other value packs (mostly). For example couple days ago Ronin value costed 22500 gems, now today there is Frost Empress value for 29500, thats significant difference in cost and value. So if that price of Ronin value packs stays for some time longer and if value keepes apearing in game, getting Ronin is very reasonable idea as f2p. Its 10 Ronin shards in the value pack for 22500 gems 20 Frost Empress shards in the value pack for 29500 gems
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Post by NFS✪Grandfather on Oct 17, 2018 13:45:40 GMT
For whining you can use this: help.DeckHeroes@igg.com Or i can make special section for whiners, thats also fine and solid option, eveyone can post there complaining how hard is life of f2p (imagine that). Now something related to thread: Ronin value pack is cheaper than other value packs (mostly). For example couple days ago Ronin value costed 22500 gems, now today there is Frost Empress value for 29500, thats significant difference in cost and value. So if that price of Ronin value packs stays for some time longer and if value keepes apearing in game, getting Ronin is very reasonable idea as f2p. Its 10 Ronin shards in the value pack for 22500 gems 20 Frost Empress shards in the value pack for 29500 gems And? Empress is nowhere near Ronin value as hero. Even if they give 50 Empress shards and 10 of Ronin i would grind Ronin over her anytime. And i think most players would do the same. I watched Empress performance in battles also got an info about her from players who have her on higher lvl and everyone left an impression that she can be considered as 3rd party hero, nothing beyond that.
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Post by n4k3dm1k3 on Oct 17, 2018 13:58:04 GMT
So its not actually cheaper. The 'value' prospect is a different story though.
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Post by NFS✪Grandfather on Oct 17, 2018 18:22:09 GMT
So its not actually cheaper. The 'value' prospect is a different story though. Yeah, didnt express myself properly. In gem matter when roughly look only on gem cost for value pack it is cheaper, but more important is the quality of stuff got for the price right
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Post by bartfuture on Oct 18, 2018 20:45:15 GMT
thanks for all the info ! I'm gonna save up my gems, it takes a year roughly to save up the gems needed for Ronin. This game is all about patience
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