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Post by naevius on Oct 31, 2018 8:41:36 GMT
Hi everyone!
I am thinking about my strategy for the future and how to spend my gems. Supposing I will be full AB, my first purpose will be spending gems to meld strong 5* creatures, so I need alternatively 1) more copies of the desired card or 2) 5* meld cards
I was wondering if LB are a good way to spend gems in order to obtain the desired card and if there is more or less value for money compared to Value Packs.
Alternatively (and theoretically) the choises are:
1) spending approx. 22.500 gems x 3 = 67.500 gems in order to obtain one 5* Meld Card (each value pack sale contains more or less 100 5* Meld Card shards and, as far as I know, it takes 250 shards to create a single 5* Meld Card) and other cool things (sparks, Ronin shards, etc.)
2) spending an unknown amount of gems (basically based on luck) just trying to obtain the cards in LB
Considering only the melding purpose and taking apart the other rewards of Value Packs, what would you reccomend? And...how do you meld 5* creature normally? There are other ways apart LB and Value Packs?
Thank you for sharing your experiences!
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Post by NFS✪Grandfather on Oct 31, 2018 9:23:05 GMT
Big thing and big question is what cards you intend to meld?
Not every card have same way of getting it and same value of melding, so naturaly not every card is worth spending precious Meld Card V on it or spending tons of gems into booster.
Could you please list some of your most wanted melds so i can (and others) help you better and more precise what would be your best choice in those cases?
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Post by naevius on Oct 31, 2018 10:18:43 GMT
Big thing and big question is what cards you intend to meld? Not every card have same way of getting it and same value of melding, so naturaly not every card is worth spending precious Meld Card V on it or spending tons of gems into booster. Could you please list some of your most wanted melds so i can (and others) help you better and more precise what would be your best choice in those cases? Sure! At the moment I was referring to the cards I own that are also included in LB event, such as Hanzo (I like this creature very much as I also have Concealed Strike Rune - Immunity 9/10 on him would be very nice) and Taurus (I don't own her yet BUT I have a fresh Demon Hunter from which I would take Sacrifice 10). My deck also includes Capricorn (Sacrifice 10 on her would be very very interesting), Paragorn (Immunity 9/10 would be great- but where Am I supposed to take other copies apart from Guild Maps?), Acquarius and Granite Dragon (one day -far away- in the future I will meld Revive on it). I am patiently waiting for another Octavius Ultima Chest Boost event in order to take last 6 shards I need for my first Octavius.
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Post by dendeze on Oct 31, 2018 10:31:12 GMT
My deck also includes Capricorn (Sacrifice 10 on her would be very very interesting)
Be very carefull with that meld. In mid to early high levels she is great. Untill you encounter Blade Shard... then you are f***
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Post by NFS✪Grandfather on Oct 31, 2018 10:57:34 GMT
Now we can give more precise guidence and advice Ok so, Hanzo with immunity 9/10 is of course the best meld you can make for him, sources of hes shards are in Lost Relic when hes featuring card there so do all hes LR when they appear, also, he have its own booster so wont harm if you try get him from there with 5-10 booster pulls. He was in Ultima chest event before now i think he wont appear anymore so LR and booster are ways of getting him. And i wouldnt not use Human Meld Card V on melding him since there is those ways on how you can obtain him so no need to waste maled V on him (not even if you have 100% expertise ) Paragon immunity 9/10 also best possible meld for her, you can find her shards in guild map 6 and in 3rd gem mine, its fairly easy to get her so no need to invest some bigger amount of gems or to use meld V of course, with proper guild you can get 1 copy of her each few months depending on shards system which guild using. Taurus is outdated this days, she was monstruose to face with that sacrifce meld but now days in modern whale DH meta its outdated. Of course its still a very good meld to have and to use for normal players like us, so wont be mistake or harmful if make one. She can drop as ful card from LR, she have own booster and also i wouldnt not recomend using meld V card on her. Patiently you will meld it with less effort, and dont do more than 5 boosters of her if intend to try luck with her there. Capricorn sacrifice is best meld for her, planing to do that myself in future, so no mistake there. She was fairly easy to get in past but now days i dont think there is some reliable or secure source of getting her beside AB card pool drop. She can drop from LR but it will take ageis to get it melded. Maybe someone knows where her sources are now since my brain stucked and dont use meld V on her. Granite Drgon drops from Ultima chest event, its not that hard to get it just takes time and luck so it shouldnt be a much of headche to meld. Revive meld suits very good so aim for that. In hes case it wouldnt be much of damage if use meld V on him but if you dont have to then better wait with copies of him. Aquarius is of course one of must to have cards, have its own booster can drop from AB so it should be ok to get several copied first before melding. Melding her is not neccessary, if you have Unholy Rites skill then yes since you will get multyple copies of her in play but without that skill i wouldnt bother with melding her. Best melds are revive and recycle and yes shes worth of using meld V card on her. Octavian as you know probably can drop from AB and have its own Ultima event, so if you have cleard all 16 maps you can get 1 full Octa from 0 to 60 shards (+15 omnis to finish it) just in 1 event, it costs around 33k gems for that and yes its worth. You can also use meld V on him it wont be mistake, but dont forget that there is now also Dark Summoner which melding is more than hard, so meld V on her is almost only option if you are f2p. Best meld for Octa is Shater Soul IF YOU HAVE SHATER RUNE, 2nd best is recycle 2/revive. The reason why i never adviced you to use meld V card is because they are so precious to use on super rare cards, for exmple lets say you want to meld Minstrel (on of top reward card in momoya) wouldnt it be better to use it on him for melding rather than using it on melding Paragon, right? It wont be bad if use meld V on some of those rarier or more demand cards to meld just make sure you dont regret later. Hope this helps, and of course im sure other forum members will provide more thoughts and inputs here for better insight. Cheers!
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Post by valinorean on Oct 31, 2018 11:50:14 GMT
My deck also includes Capricorn (Sacrifice 10 on her would be very very interesting)
Be very carefull with that meld. In mid to early high levels she is great. Untill you encounter Blade Shard... then you are f*** Yes bladeshard probably sucks. What to do. Bladeshard is like one less card per turn. But having dodge on Sac Capri is so funny! Once is out you can clear some cards with ease. Will resist Wraith and if trapped or something still there is a Dodge working for u.
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Post by dendeze on Oct 31, 2018 11:52:32 GMT
Be very carefull with that meld. In mid to early high levels she is great. Untill you encounter Blade Shard... then you are f*** Yes bladeshard probably sucks. What to do. Bladeshard is like one less card per turn. But having dodge on Sac Capri is so funny! Once is out you can clear some cards with ease. Will resist Wraith and if trapped or something still there is a Dodge working for u. I know ^^ i have her and she is a beast with a dodge rune... only when you encounter BS she becomes useless because she is allways target first (at least in my deck)
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Post by n4k3dm1k3 on Oct 31, 2018 12:01:00 GMT
Can I complain about my lack of Aqua drops from boosters without being called out for going off topic in this thread?
There used to be guarenteed booster drops after openning so many packs - when was the last of this type of event?
I managed a Soul Shrew off of a few booster packs, but tried many different cards (mainy on spending event/gala days) without any other success. My Aqua tally is now over 100k accross many many events, without a drop.
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Post by naevius on Oct 31, 2018 12:17:50 GMT
Thank you very much NFS✪Sinister22 ✪Grandfather, your explainations are very much appreciated. To summarize (but correct me if I'm wrong) I think that you are suggesting that BIG PATIENCE is the way WITHOUT using 5* Meld Cards BUT giving a try to LB. - Hanzo: collect keys from LR. Do you think going for Ultima Chest from Gold Chest is worth? Obviously it would be extremely expensive (800 gems per chest) and I don't know if it could be the right choice. In the meantime, give 5-10 LB tries should speed the process up a little bit. Are 5-10 tries normally lucky enough at least for one card (I assume that obviously LUCK has an enormous role in this case)? - Paragorn: doing 3rd Mine (I assume until the first chest) should be the right path. Normally I do this only during Double Ore days. Unfortunatelly I am a one-man Guild so it means that I have to collect all contributions on my own before unlocking Chapter 6...very very long journey here... - Taurus: like Hanzo, going for LR/AB drop / LB try. Is there any other meld that you reccomend apart from Sac10? - Capricorn: like Hanzo and Taurus, hoping for a lucky LR/AB drop and going for Sac10 meld. As dendeze and valinorean pointed out, is would be a little bit dangerous in late-end game against Blade Shard. Regarding this topic, it would be very useful to understand how to craft efficiently Blue Noble Lord equip. If I remember well NFS✪Sinister22 ✪Grandfather in an other topic you suggested a step by step guide to craft this equip also explaining how to collect the right materials (I assume that everything is related to Momoya, but it is a bit dark subject for me); could you please PM me linking such guide if you can? - Granite Dragon: Ultima Chest Boost in order to meld it with Revive (but I need to drop a Great Mystic) - Acquarius: for the moment I won't meld it - Octavius: wait for AB lucky drop or Ultima Chest event (WHY THEY SUDDENLY STOP THE EVENT AS I HAD ONLY 6 SHARDS TO GO, GRRRRR! DO YOU KNOW IF IT WILL APPEAR SOMEDAY IN THE NEAR FUTURE?). I'll go for Shatter Soul meld (only with rune) or Recycle 2 (but I need to drop a Hyppolita) In the meantime if I have some spare gems it would be good to buy Value Pack in your opinion in order to accumulate sparks / 5* Meld Card shards? Finally, important to know I am f2p so I think that I will accomplish all the tasks in the next 10 years, when all the cards and melds will be outdated...LOL Thanks a lot!
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Post by n4k3dm1k3 on Oct 31, 2018 12:44:37 GMT
Paragon is GM6, 3rd mine drops will only top this up but you won't get nearly enough to meld with. 3rd mine will get you a revive or 2, along with some rec2 eventually - its much better to collect sacrifice cards for melding this way than it is to collect enough melding fodder.
It might be useful (pehaps from our F2P whale) to out a list of cards worth using a 5* meld card on - or at least the generally assumed 'best options'.
I think 5* mortii is fine for Oct - or should they be saved now for dark summoner?
Faen - should they be saved for devine terra? And Human for gale knight?
Is something like rev granite good enough for Neander meld 5?
Don't ask me, I accidentally used the free 5* mortii card on terror dragon (lock it down, I know, I know!!!!!!!)
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Post by NFS✪Grandfather on Oct 31, 2018 15:29:13 GMT
Can I complain about my lack of Aqua drops from boosters without being called out for going off topic in this thread? There used to be guarenteed booster drops after openning so many packs - when was the last of this type of event? I managed a Soul Shrew off of a few booster packs, but tried many different cards (mainy on spending event/gala days) without any other success. My Aqua tally is now over 100k accross many many events, without a drop. Complaining is prohibitated, at least here on forum but if gonna do it on IGG support email then its enocouraging! Penalty for whining is to get beer for US server players Jokes on side, whining is really not neccessary to point out just because there is hundreds of other players who have same or even worse “luck” . Not harmful to mention but not also useful to keep it going As for Aqua guaranteed boost, last year was last time when it happened, somewhere around March i think...so probably we can say goodbuye to that.
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Post by nafnist on Nov 2, 2018 18:48:02 GMT
Paragon is GM6, 3rd mine drops will only top this up but you won't get nearly enough to meld with. 3rd mine will get you a revive or 2, along with some rec2 eventually - its much better to collect sacrifice cards for melding this way than it is to collect enough melding fodder. It might be useful (pehaps from our F2P whale) to out a list of cards worth using a 5* meld card on - or at least the generally assumed 'best options'. I think 5* mortii is fine for Oct - or should they be saved now for dark summoner? Faen - should they be saved for devine terra? And Human for gale knight? Is something like rev granite good enough for Neander meld 5? Don't ask me, I accidentally used the free 5* mortii card on terror dragon (lock it down, I know, I know!!!!!!!) I'd save Neander for something better than granite, like firebrand.
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