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Post by nafnist on Jul 31, 2019 16:57:20 GMT
Available in LP mall. Anyone tried her yet? Would you consider her a better Rev/Rec meld than Dragon Lancer?
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Post by dendeze on Aug 1, 2019 5:48:40 GMT
What are her other skills?
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Post by macvele on Aug 1, 2019 11:05:16 GMT
Sacrifice 7 and Dark reversal.
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Post by keglunek on Aug 1, 2019 14:10:30 GMT
She is not just a dark reversal with sacrifice though. Her third skill is a devastating blow to the crit in front of her. It reduces HP and does not generate rage for the enemy hero. So far she even seems to be ignoring crystal ward because mine has been killing Lancers like they are nothing xD But, if she lands on the rightmost side with no crits in front of her...until she moves to the left she will be useless. I still really like her anyway And I'm going ahead and try to huddle up more copies for an immunity 10 one ; D
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Post by nessq on Aug 1, 2019 16:11:54 GMT
Is she better than dragon lancer?i dont know wich one to choose.i only got lp points for one card
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Post by nafnist on Aug 1, 2019 19:13:11 GMT
She is not just a dark reversal with sacrifice though. Her third skill is a devastating blow to the crit in front of her. It reduces HP and does not generate rage for the enemy hero. So far she even seems to be ignoring crystal ward because mine has been killing Lancers like they are nothing xD But, if she lands on the rightmost side with no crits in front of her...until she moves to the left she will be useless. I still really like her anyway And I'm going ahead and try to huddle up more copies for an immunity 10 one ; D Yea, reduces HP will go thru Crystal Ward. Storm Ward also. Immunity 10 meld is no doubt a great meld.
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Post by 1501✪NFS on Aug 6, 2019 4:58:42 GMT
Dark summoner is still a better option.
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Post by macvele on Aug 6, 2019 6:18:45 GMT
Is she better than dragon lancer?i dont know wich one to choose.i only got lp points for one card Same position here. Or to keep points for WH?
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Post by revenant on Aug 6, 2019 8:17:38 GMT
Dark summoner is still a better option. I agree, but if we are discussing about the circle of mildly easy to get creatures (and dark summoner isn't in it), my vote goes to Blackward Temptress (with immu 10 and upgraded sac) over lancer (any meld).
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Post by valinorean on Aug 7, 2019 20:23:34 GMT
Is she better than dragon lancer?i dont know wich one to choose.i only got lp points for one card DL is far more useful. But if u can. Take both
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Post by 1501✪NFS on Aug 8, 2019 5:01:24 GMT
Dark summoner is still a better option. I agree, but if we are discussing about the circle of mildly easy to get creatures (and dark summoner isn't in it), my vote goes to Blackward Temptress (with immu 10 and upgraded sac) over lancer (any meld). It is a hard decision between her and lancer. If Blackward temptress is on your right side, she really cannot do anything. Melded lancer provides damage + utility.. it is hard to say which one is better, but imo melded lancer is slightly better so i will choose melded lancer.
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Post by nessq on Aug 8, 2019 5:41:04 GMT
I agree, but if we are discussing about the circle of mildly easy to get creatures (and dark summoner isn't in it), my vote goes to Blackward Temptress (with immu 10 and upgraded sac) over lancer (any meld). It is a hard decision between her and lancer. If Blackward temptress is on your right side, she really cannot do anything. Melded lancer provides damage + utility.. it is hard to say which one is better, but imo melded lancer is slightly better so i will choose melded lancer. yes you are right but i am a f2p casual player and i dont think that i will get enough copy for melding either one of them.So i guess i will go for dragon lancer
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Post by dendeze on Aug 8, 2019 6:43:39 GMT
I would say Blackward is better. DL is countered by Queen Artolia and snow harlet, like hard counter, it makes the card completely useless And if you are in top 1000, all decks have at least one QA.
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Post by nessq on Aug 8, 2019 7:05:05 GMT
I would say Blackward is better. DL is countered by Queen Artolia and snow harlet, like hard counter, it makes the card completely useless And if you are in top 1000, all decks have at least one QA. thanks i owe you one
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Post by revenant on Aug 8, 2019 8:36:46 GMT
I would say Blackward is better. DL is countered by Queen Artolia and snow harlet, like hard counter, it makes the card completely useless And if you are in top 1000, all decks have at least one QA. Probably the best argument for going with Blackward, to me.
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Post by 1501✪NFS on Aug 9, 2019 12:18:02 GMT
It is a hard decision between her and lancer. If Blackward temptress is on your right side, she really cannot do anything. Melded lancer provides damage + utility.. it is hard to say which one is better, but imo melded lancer is slightly better so i will choose melded lancer. yes you are right but i am a f2p casual player and i dont think that i will get enough copy for melding either one of them.So i guess i will go for dragon lancer i am ftp too. i believe you can do it! You can get cheap dragon lancer from deck duel actually.
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Post by 1501✪NFS on Aug 9, 2019 12:22:57 GMT
I would say Blackward is better. DL is countered by Queen Artolia and snow harlet, like hard counter, it makes the card completely useless And if you are in top 1000, all decks have at least one QA. Agree, it is the biggest downside of lancer. That's why you can find many retreat melds in top decks.
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Post by nessq on Aug 9, 2019 17:32:29 GMT
yes you are right but i am a f2p casual player and i dont think that i will get enough copy for melding either one of them.So i guess i will go for dragon lancer i am ftp too. i believe you can do it! You can get cheap dragon lancer from deck duel actually. how?can you elaborate pleasa
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Post by SeraphicD on Aug 11, 2019 9:44:21 GMT
With a timer of 2 so if she comes out first her Sac7 skill will not be activated, snd hence not maximizing her third skill (ie. offense/defence). If she comes out later, she can't do much except to wait for a card to be placed opposite her, which might very well be a Retreat card which is getting more common these days. Doubt I will invest LP to meld an I10 on her given her limitations. Better to invest on a sac10 Rakhasha or Deton/(d)instakill Cyber eye for the long run.
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Post by 1501✪NFS on Aug 12, 2019 10:17:00 GMT
i am ftp too. i believe you can do it! You can get cheap dragon lancer from deck duel actually. how?can you elaborate pleasa you can get lancer from deck duel, usually it is prized between rank 51-100. it is not as costly as you exchange it from lp mall, and ofc it also depends on your commitment in deck duel and your deck strength too.
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Post by nessq on Aug 12, 2019 10:52:44 GMT
how?can you elaborate pleasa you can get lancer from deck duel, usually it is prized between rank 51-100. it is not as costly as you exchange it from lp mall, and ofc it also depends on your commitment in deck duel and your deck strength too. yeah i am not that strong or commitet(:
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Post by n4k3dm1k3 on Aug 12, 2019 12:47:16 GMT
With a timer of 2 so if she comes out first her Sac7 skill will not be activated, snd hence not maximizing her third skill (ie. offense/defence). If she comes out later, she can't do much except to wait for a card to be placed opposite her, which might very well be a Retreat card which is getting more common these days. Doubt I will invest LP to meld an I10 on her given her limitations. Better to invest on a sac10 Rakhasha or Deton/(d)instakill Cyber eye for the long run. Having played around with her a little now, I tend to agree - though I watched a dosen matches she never came out in the first 3. For me she kept appearing in the last 2 or 3 - the fight was already lost, or she sat so far right her skills did nothing.
Dragon Lancer has an impact no matter where he arrives, so he takes my LP vote (with rev).
I replaced my PD with BT and I'm kind tempted to go back! The lower cost is nice though. In addition to i10, [ s ] revive might be another good meld with the 2 turn timer - even if she is constantly retreated, you get a huge rage boost and revive every other turn.
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Post by fuggingene on Aug 12, 2019 15:43:24 GMT
I have a DL with I10. I upgraded his Magma Breath to 9 and it's devastating. But ya, if someone puts out a Snow Harlot or Queen Artolia out, that skill does nothing. But he still does damage for a long time and that I10 keeps him in play even longer. Not to mention I have an immunity rune on him. I think DL would be the better choice.
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Post by SeraphicD on Aug 13, 2019 13:23:50 GMT
With a timer of 2 so if she comes out first her Sac7 skill will not be activated, snd hence not maximizing her third skill (ie. offense/defence). If she comes out later, she can't do much except to wait for a card to be placed opposite her, which might very well be a Retreat card which is getting more common these days. Doubt I will invest LP to meld an I10 on her given her limitations. Better to invest on a sac10 Rakhasha or Deton/(d)instakill Cyber eye for the long run. Having played around with her a little now, I tend to agree - though I watched a dosen matches she never came out in the first 3. For me she kept appearing in the last 2 or 3 - the fight was already lost, or she sat so far right her skills did nothing.
Dragon Lancer has an impact no matter where he arrives, so he takes my LP vote (with rev).
I replaced my PD with BT and I'm kind tempted to go back! The lower cost is nice though. In addition to i10, [ s ] revive might be another good meld with the 2 turn timer - even if she is constantly retreated, you get a huge rage boost and revive every other turn.
Artolia counters both DL and BT which is why we seldom see DL in the top 100, what with the prevalence of Art. Snow harlot and Virgo are also good counters. Like you mentioned, DL doesnt rely on positioning but against Artolia, will trigger Haste Rune more often than BT, while BT doesnt generate hero's rage with her skill. However, even with sac7, BT's hp reduction isnt really impressive, ranging from 2k to 3k+. So you will need quite abit of skill essences to level up sac7, which is a waste imo when they could have been better used on other cards. And with Blade Shard a lot more common at the higher ranks, BT easily becomes a target and gets nullified. DL on the other hand seldom gets targeted by BS. DL is imo more versatile and effective at getting rid of many other cards besides the aforementioned ones.
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Post by n4k3dm1k3 on Aug 13, 2019 14:51:23 GMT
Yes, I had her out in a fight first round without a sac and she still managed to wreck face hard on the far left.
Overbrimming with confidence, I went up against our arena no. 1 - anb she got insta'd by BS, even befoer the ronin could act!
the staying power of dark reversal does wonders against Aqua - I hate that card
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Post by zoso on Aug 14, 2019 16:15:48 GMT
I have a DL with I10. I upgraded his Magma Breath to 9 and it's devastating. But ya, if someone puts out a Snow Harlot or Queen Artolia out, that skill does nothing. But he still does damage for a long time and that I10 keeps him in play even longer. Not to mention I have an immunity rune on him. I think DL would be the better choice. I still hadn't decided what to meld on my DL. But it sounds like Immunity is the best meld?
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Post by revenant on Aug 19, 2019 7:47:29 GMT
I have a DL with I10. I upgraded his Magma Breath to 9 and it's devastating. But ya, if someone puts out a Snow Harlot or Queen Artolia out, that skill does nothing. But he still does damage for a long time and that I10 keeps him in play even longer. Not to mention I have an immunity rune on him. I think DL would be the better choice. I still hadn't decided what to meld on my DL. But it sounds like Immunity is the best meld? It is the best, unless you need a solid reviver, and DL is very good for that.
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