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Post by jacobhunterx on Mar 13, 2015 1:45:44 GMT
By the time I DO get Devil Hunter I'll have 120,000-150,000 Glory Points saved up (in 1-2* cards, I keep my GP under 100). You think that is enough to boost him to a useable Hero? that should be good enough you should probably be able to get his abilities all around 7 but this always varies due to luck and hope you don't get raided while cashing in the glory cards I know I was really scared and I only opened up 48k.
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Post by DianaTroy [βκ] on Mar 13, 2015 3:00:53 GMT
By the time I DO get Devil Hunter I'll have 120,000-150,000 Glory Points saved up (in 1-2* cards, I keep my GP under 100). You think that is enough to boost him to a useable Hero? that should be good enough you should probably be able to get his abilities all around 7 but this always varies due to luck and hope you don't get raided while cashing in the glory cards I know I was really scared and I only opened up 48k. Yeah I will be cashing in a few at a time. Patience in this case is paramount. Thanks for the reminder dude. d('.'<)
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Post by Sephiroth [BK] on Mar 13, 2015 3:09:35 GMT
that should be good enough you should probably be able to get his abilities all around 7 but this always varies due to luck and hope you don't get raided while cashing in the glory cards I know I was really scared and I only opened up 48k. Yeah I will be cashing in a few at a time. Patience in this case is paramount. Thanks for the reminder dude. d('.'<) Just wait until you have a raid shield on. No one can touch you so just cash em all at once no buggering around
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Post by DianaTroy [βκ] on Mar 13, 2015 3:14:32 GMT
Yeah I will be cashing in a few at a time. Patience in this case is paramount. Thanks for the reminder dude. d('.'<) Just wait until you have a raid shield on. No one can touch you so just cash em all at once no buggering around I rarely lose though. I can always pay 40 Gems for a shield, worth it if it protects my GP though. Great idea homie.
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Post by jacobhunterx on Mar 13, 2015 4:35:45 GMT
Just wait until you have a raid shield on. No one can touch you so just cash em all at once no buggering around I rarely lose though. I can always pay 40 Gems for a shield, worth it if it protects my GP though. Great idea homie. just thought of this, you could put out a bait deck with only one creature when you only have a few glory points left.
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Post by DianaTroy [βκ] on Mar 13, 2015 5:52:38 GMT
I rarely lose though. I can always pay 40 Gems for a shield, worth it if it protects my GP though. Great idea homie. just thought of this, you could put out a bait deck with only one creature when you only have a few glory points left. My unleveled Frigid Queen + 10 Lv.0 Manticores!
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Post by jacobhunterx on Mar 13, 2015 7:18:06 GMT
That might even be a little to strong for some people XD
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Post by DianaTroy [βκ] on Mar 13, 2015 7:32:52 GMT
That might even be a little to strong for some people XD Maybe I should put up a bait deck anyway and Revenge Raid anyone who has a lot of Glory Points with my real deck in the morning. >
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Post by jacobhunterx on Mar 13, 2015 19:08:03 GMT
That might even be a little to strong for some people XD Maybe I should put up a bait deck anyway and Revenge Raid anyone who has a lot of Glory Points with my real deck in the morning. > thats an even better idea
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Post by DianaTroy [βκ] on Mar 29, 2015 4:38:56 GMT
So I guess Wight is best with Cripple and Undying?
Which is better, ATK+ or HP+?
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Post by derpy✪NFS on Apr 1, 2015 9:17:26 GMT
I'd normally go with +HP on anything, but by the nature of Mortii decks you're looking to hit hard and fast, then rebirth. You're not expecting to stay in there a long time- it takes away from one of their biggest weapons. So I'd probably in this case go for +atk looking to take out some key cards quick.
I don't have Wight yet though, or even a 3 star Mortii hero- so take that with a big grain of salt.
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Post by R✰Slippo on Apr 1, 2015 15:51:05 GMT
I'd normally go with +HP on anything, but by the nature of Mortii decks you're looking to hit hard and fast, then rebirth. You're not expecting to stay in there a long time- it takes away from one of their biggest weapons. So I'd probably in this case go for +atk looking to take out some key cards quick. I don't have Wight yet though, or even a 3 star Mortii hero- so take that with a big grain of salt. Undying and Cripple for sure. I use the atk/hp buff talent as my hero refresh for gauntlets so I just take what I can get on him to save GP in an attempt to get exactly what i want since I change it multiple times a day. I focused on getting Cripple 10 before undying because IMO it is a bigger game changer for GM/PVP than +5% on undying per lvl increase. Also, I've left my undying at level 8 for the longest time to not increase my gauntlet power by getting it to level 10. that 10% less chance to rebirth doesn't make or break my deck but an extra 2-300 power points in the gauntlet might break my soul....
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Post by andypk on Apr 1, 2015 16:51:35 GMT
Wight is a self explanatory hero.
But what talents would community prefer?
One slot is taken by Undying 100% - no brainer.
But what else? Attack or life? Cripple, battleset, entrap or death cloud? Something else?
Cripple is best for guild maps. But what would be good for maps/arena/trials/gauntlet? I find cripple extremely useful for manual battles. It affords you the extra turn or 2 before dropping your first creature. And as for guild maps, cripple is just awesome sauce. Today on guild maps I dropped 987k on 1-4, 1100k on 2-2 and 1400k on 5-5. And as for the first talent, I like Aura. Self healing creatures like my 3 phantom lieges benefit greatly from Aura. Not to mention it helps in guild wars if your creatures have a buffer to what will make them end the battle at 100% or better. And the damage buff only lasts one turn. Edit: Another fun fact. That whole turn 51-59 with the enemy hero getting hit for 100 hp and thus kicking off mantra, is eliminated as an issue once you get to death curse 7.
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Post by R✰Slippo on Apr 1, 2015 18:43:42 GMT
Wight is a self explanatory hero.
But what talents would community prefer?
One slot is taken by Undying 100% - no brainer.
But what else? Attack or life? Cripple, battleset, entrap or death cloud? Something else?
Cripple is best for guild maps. But what would be good for maps/arena/trials/gauntlet? I find cripple extremely useful for manual battles. It affords you the extra turn or 2 before dropping your first creature. And as for guild maps, cripple is just awesome sauce. Today on guild maps I dropped 987k on 1-4, 1100k on 2-2 and 1400k on 5-5. And as for the first talent, I like Aura. Self healing creatures like my 3 phantom lieges benefit greatly from Aura. Not to mention it helps in guild wars if your creatures have a buffer to what will make them end the battle at 100% or better. And the damage buff only lasts one turn. Edit: Another fun fact. That whole turn 51-59 with the enemy hero getting hit for 100 hp and thus kicking off mantra, is eliminated as an issue once you get to death curse 7. Nice info Andy! Good to know, now I just need to be able to spend some points on him, haven't seen him in days even with my multi refresh when Arma shards were available
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Post by thundergod on Apr 1, 2015 19:39:10 GMT
Defintely Cripple and Undying. Undying is obvious and Cripple is pretty much needed for Guild Maps. I like the hp buff as well because it works well with Cripple and it is more consistent and versatile. The attack buff sometimes becomes useless when they either seal you or when they use their defensive ability if Neander/Faen/Human. It can also help restore hp in guild battles and such.
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Post by Sephiroth [BK] on Apr 6, 2015 7:35:16 GMT
Hmmm not sure what to do... Lately I've been thinking that undying is wasting a talent slot on my wight due to most of my critters already having rebirth.. Does anyone know if they stack together or if one cancels the other out? Or does the higher % one have right of way...? Going from experience I would say they don't stack in any way...
I love using wight for guild maps and undying is useless there as well. Don't get me wrong I love undying but am I wasting a slot with 7-8/10 critters having rebirth in my deck already anyway.
I'd love to get entrap and cripple going together. I just don't want to get rid of undying and regret it and then have to spend 100k of glory to get it back...
Thoughts/ideas/experiences anyone??
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Post by kakola on Apr 6, 2015 10:27:29 GMT
Hmmm not sure what to do... Lately I've been thinking that undying is wasting a talent slot on my wight due to most of my critters already having rebirth.. Does anyone know if they stack together or if one cancels the other out? Or does the higher % one have right of way...? Going from experience I would say they don't stack in any way... Im also curious if rebirth creature with undying active gets double check after being sent to graveyard.
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Post by andypk on Apr 6, 2015 13:44:15 GMT
Hmmm not sure what to do... Lately I've been thinking that undying is wasting a talent slot on my wight due to most of my critters already having rebirth.. Does anyone know if they stack together or if one cancels the other out? Or does the higher % one have right of way...? Going from experience I would say they don't stack in any way... I love using wight for guild maps and undying is useless there as well. Don't get me wrong I love undying but am I wasting a slot with 7-8/10 critters having rebirth in my deck already anyway. I'd love to get entrap and cripple going together. I just don't want to get rid of undying and regret it and then have to spend 100k of glory to get it back... Thoughts/ideas/experiences anyone?? Define most. First creatures I usually drop are lieges. And those coming back to my hand are a big portion of how I win. Recycle takes a lot more time. And I still have my recycle on my Thalassas so it's a no brainer for me.
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Post by Sephiroth [BK] on Apr 7, 2015 5:52:50 GMT
Hmmm not sure what to do... Lately I've been thinking that undying is wasting a talent slot on my wight due to most of my critters already having rebirth.. Does anyone know if they stack together or if one cancels the other out? Or does the higher % one have right of way...? Going from experience I would say they don't stack in any way... I love using wight for guild maps and undying is useless there as well. Don't get me wrong I love undying but am I wasting a slot with 7-8/10 critters having rebirth in my deck already anyway. I'd love to get entrap and cripple going together. I just don't want to get rid of undying and regret it and then have to spend 100k of glory to get it back... Thoughts/ideas/experiences anyone?? Define most. First creatures I usually drop are lieges. And those coming back to my hand are a big portion of how I win. Recycle takes a lot more time. And I still have my recycle on my Thalassas so it's a no brainer for me. Wish I had the luxury of a liege, never mind a few of them. Most of the cards in my deck that I use early and that I want/need them to come back already have rebirth. Harbinger with instakill, sirens with seals, titania with ambush. Undying will. My point was that most of the time undying is cast on critters of mine that already have rebirth. Prob 75% of the time. Yeah it brings my fafnir, thalassa or spider queen back occasionally but I'm trying to weigh up if I could use that slot better some other way.
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Post by DianaTroy [βκ] on Apr 7, 2015 6:28:35 GMT
The problem with knowing if Rebirth and Undying stack is that the proc numbers in this game are absolutely screwed. You could build a massive sample pool from a few hundred battles, but that would take months of recording every Rebirth success/fail.
In the end, you might not even get a clear answer.
If you have a 3* Mortii Hero with Undying, I would probably use that one as the "defense" Hero and Wight as the "offense" Hero.
For example, I use Poison Ivy (Agile) and Patriach (Ice Shell) for defense, Devil Hunter (Kindle & Five On It) and Gladiator (Battleset) for offense.
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Post by cpthowdy on May 25, 2015 23:08:05 GMT
Just got cripple 9. I have undying 6. Is it a waste of glory to push these higher or are these lvls sufficient? Thanks for any insight!
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Post by vamp on May 25, 2015 23:20:13 GMT
Just got cripple 9. I have undying 6. Is it a waste of glory to push these higher or are these lvls sufficient? Thanks for any insight! Because you can get the lvl 9 skill at the 1500 glory / refresh cost, I would go for lvl 9 on them. The difference between 6 and 9 (with undying) is pretty big. I think I have lvl 9 skills on my 2 or 3 of my 4* heroes, haven't upgraded my royal guard so much because I only use him for guild wars. But long term I'll probs aim for lvl 9 on all of them before I start pushing for lvl 10 on any, simply because it's 78*1.5k to get there >_<
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Post by cpthowdy on May 25, 2015 23:28:12 GMT
Just got cripple 9. I have undying 6. Is it a waste of glory to push these higher or are these lvls sufficient? Thanks for any insight! Because you can get the lvl 9 skill at the 1500 glory / refresh cost, I would go for lvl 9 on them. The difference between 6 and 9 (with undying) is pretty big. I think I have lvl 9 skills on my 2 or 3 of my 4* heroes, haven't upgraded my royal guard so much because I only use him for guild wars. But long term I'll probs aim for lvl 9 on all of them before I start pushing for lvl 10 on any, simply because it's 78*1.5k to get there >_< Yeah wasn't sure if pushing undying higher was worth it. 50% right now, what is % at lvl 9? Won't be going for cripple 10 for awhile if ever! Need shards to get that curse up!! Thanks for your input.
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Post by Sephiroth [BK] on May 26, 2015 0:59:14 GMT
Because you can get the lvl 9 skill at the 1500 glory / refresh cost, I would go for lvl 9 on them. The difference between 6 and 9 (with undying) is pretty big. I think I have lvl 9 skills on my 2 or 3 of my 4* heroes, haven't upgraded my royal guard so much because I only use him for guild wars. But long term I'll probs aim for lvl 9 on all of them before I start pushing for lvl 10 on any, simply because it's 78*1.5k to get there >_< Yeah wasn't sure if pushing undying higher was worth it. 50% right now, what is % at lvl 9? Won't be going for cripple 10 for awhile if ever! Need shards to get that curse up!! Thanks for your input. Undying goes up by 5% every level. So at lvl 9 it will be at 65%. Every talent that is % base rises at an even rate. Same as creature skill %s.
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Post by vamp on May 26, 2015 9:56:22 GMT
Not all hero skills do though eg. Royal guardis 450 + 50 * lvl but 1000 at lvl 10. Do all summoner creatures' skills go linearly?
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Post by DianaTroy [βκ] on May 26, 2015 21:51:34 GMT
Remember too that Undying/Rebirth seems to stack, so Lv.7 Undying landing twice on the same creature (or just once on a Rebirther) brings the chance to Rebirth up to 95-99%.
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Post by Sephiroth [BK] on May 28, 2015 4:07:53 GMT
Remember too that Undying/Rebirth seems to stack, so Lv.7 Undying landing twice on the same creature (or just once on a Rebirther) brings the chance to Rebirth up to 95-99%. Would disagree about undying/rebirth stacking. Pretty sure the higher % gets right of way. I have considered that maybe undying gets right of way over rebirth, when cast. But still think the higher % gets right of way.
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Post by vamp on May 28, 2015 8:41:56 GMT
Remember too that Undying/Rebirth seems to stack, so Lv.7 Undying landing twice on the same creature (or just once on a Rebirther) brings the chance to Rebirth up to 95-99%. Would disagree about undying/rebirth stacking. Pretty sure the higher % gets right of way. I have considered that maybe undying gets right of way over rebirth, when cast. But still think the higher % gets right of way. There's a few possibilities right? Consider a creature with rebirth 50%, undying 60% cast on it twice. You might have (chance to return to hand) 1-(0.4*0.4*0.5) : multiple undying stacks with rebirth 1-(0.4*0.5) : undying and rebirth stack 1-(0.4) : undying takes precedence over rebirth 1-(0.4) : higher percentage has priority To illustrate the difference between the last two, consider rebirth 50%, undying 40% cast on it twice 1-(0.6*0.6*0.5) : multiple undying stacks with rebirth 1-(0.6*0.5) : undying and rebirth stack 1-(0.6) : undying takes precedence over rebirth 1-(0.5) : higher percentage has priority Now you have another interaction to consider, ie. with paw master. I think he cancels rebirth but not undying. What happens to above percentages when he hits them? Just a thought.
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Post by DianaTroy [βκ] on May 29, 2015 18:59:57 GMT
All I know is that when one of my creatures gets hit with Undying twice it comes back over 80% of the time.
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Post by Opethian on May 29, 2015 19:27:09 GMT
I personally think that the following is the best skillset for Wight at the moment (and I've put the levels my Wight is at the moment):
Aura 9 Undying 9 Cripple 9
Ive decided to forego pushing them to 10 at the moment as I'm slowly pushing my other 4* heroes up each their respective skill ladders.
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