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Post by Hitmus✪NFS on May 8, 2015 4:43:05 GMT
Soon guys NFS will do little challange for you in guild wars in top5. Hope you don't mind? Healthy competition is nice always
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Post by ℜ★Naruto on May 8, 2015 10:26:56 GMT
Soon guys NFS will do little challange for you in guild wars in top5. Hope you don't mind? Healthy competition is nice always Good luck, do whatever you enjoy doing/playing. Atm most top guilds have given up guild wars, should be an easy time getting those steady 250 gems.
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Post by Hitmus✪NFS on May 8, 2015 11:02:54 GMT
Yes for top guilds it can be not worth playing. For those rising it is not bad anyway.
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Post by ÐARҞNESS on May 8, 2015 13:22:06 GMT
We wont be seeing anyone 100% legit at the top of the leaderboard until they fix the cap on rewards Thanks to you they made guild wars completely useless, you finally realized heh. Think he knew this already, lol
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Post by DianaTroy [βκ] on May 9, 2015 18:52:02 GMT
Soon guys NFS will do little challange for you in guild wars in top5. Hope you don't mind? Healthy competition is nice always Good luck, do whatever you enjoy doing/playing. Atm most top guilds have given up guild wars, should be an easy time getting those steady 250 gems. That's only because the top Guilds exploited the crappy coding. They all now have enough Glory/Credits/Gems for a year. And however you want to slice it, it was cheating. Doesn't matter if everyone could have done it (everyone CAN use steroids in sports, but it's cheating), it was never meant to work that way. It's people who exploit online games that ruin it for the rest of us. If your greed was under control then everyone would be getting better rewards. IGG should have banned everyone who did a solo Guild exploit.
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Post by ℳarty on May 9, 2015 19:24:20 GMT
Good luck, do whatever you enjoy doing/playing. Atm most top guilds have given up guild wars, should be an easy time getting those steady 250 gems. That's only because the top Guilds exploited the crappy coding. They all now have enough Glory/Credits/Gems for a year. And however you want to slice it, it was cheating. Doesn't matter if everyone could have done it (everyone CAN use steroids in sports, but it's cheating), it was never meant to work that way. It's people who exploit online games that ruin it for the rest of us. If your greed was under control then everyone would be getting better rewards. IGG should have banned everyone who did a solo Guild exploit. I agree with the ban or at least they could have remove all extra rewards and everything bought with them.
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Post by ÐARҞNESS on May 10, 2015 2:13:47 GMT
And lose their cash pots? Nope. It's IGG's own fault they got screwed, they never bothered to do anything properly in the game, lol.
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Post by DianaTroy [βκ] on May 10, 2015 2:16:15 GMT
And lose their cash pots? Nope. It's IGG's own fault they got screwed, they never bothered to do anything properly in the game, lol. The only people who got screwed were the f2p players, so 99% of all players. The gap between p2w and f2p blew up with this exploit.
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Post by ℳarty on May 10, 2015 10:47:39 GMT
Ban would be harsh since I agree, it's there mistake but removing the rewards and everything bought with them ( if there is a way for IGG to know ) would have been a better move for the whole community and for IGG themself. Tell your bank you won't refund a mistake they made and see how bad the consequences will be. This was a severe glitch that changed the whole game for some player. I'm stuck in an arena where people used this glitch and even if I spend 1000$ to get the 1st rank achievement, I couldnt do it. This is unfair.
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2015 16:24:41 GMT
F2P players had just as much of an opportunity to take advantage of solo guilds as P2W. I know several F2P/STAR Only players placed in the top 50 guilds. Even a terrible guild placing would bet you a boatload of credits/glory
It was a terrible system on IGGs part, IGG can't punish the players for collecting reward a they put up for grabs.
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Post by DianaTroy [βκ] on May 10, 2015 17:43:31 GMT
F2P players had just as much of an opportunity to take advantage of solo guilds as P2W. I know several F2P/STAR Only players placed in the top 50 guilds. Even a terrible guild placing would bet you a boatload of credits/glory It was a terrible system on IGGs part, IGG can't punish the players for collecting reward a they put up for grabs. IGG can do whatever they want and the only downside is a few less players. If they wanted to ban accounts, there would be nothing anyone could do but complain. And it's been clear for awhile now that they just ignore complaints. Bottom line, if you abused the exploit you are a cheater.
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Post by ÐARҞNESS on May 10, 2015 18:31:44 GMT
F2P players had just as much of an opportunity to take advantage of solo guilds as P2W. I know several F2P/STAR Only players placed in the top 50 guilds. Even a terrible guild placing would bet you a boatload of credits/glory It was a terrible system on IGGs part, IGG can't punish the players for collecting reward a they put up for grabs. IGG can do whatever they want and the only downside is a few less players. If they wanted to ban accounts, there would be nothing anyone could do but complain. And it's been clear for awhile now that they just ignore complaints. Bottom line, if you abused the exploit you are a cheater. I have to disagree with this. It wasn't abused was it, the people who made the one man guilds had insanely strong decks which enabled them to amass insane amounts of treasure on their own. No one really lost out when they did that. People are losing out now after the cap however. F2P, P2W, all losing out, so who did the cap benefit?
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Post by DianaTroy [βκ] on May 10, 2015 18:38:39 GMT
The cap benefits nobody, I never claimed that it did.
The reason we have the gap? Because people exploited and abused the system. One person is not a Guild and it's called Guild Battles.
If anyone wants to blame someone for why we have a cap and get less rewards, the blame is 100% on the exploiters, not IGG.
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Post by ℳarty on May 10, 2015 18:51:16 GMT
F2P players had just as much of an opportunity to take advantage of solo guilds as P2W. I know several F2P/STAR Only players placed in the top 50 guilds. Even a terrible guild placing would bet you a boatload of credits/glory It was a terrible system on IGGs part, IGG can't punish the players for collecting reward a they put up for grabs. And what about players who made their account after they fixed the gw. Can they take advantage of this glitch? No they can't. It's unfair period. Removing the rewards they gave by mistake and give back what should have been won would have been fair. And I don't see why people complaint about the rewards now. They are pretty good even if you only do 1-3 dilivery ( take 2 min of your precious time ) you will get many glory points and guild credits 2 times a week, oh yeah you can't get 15000k gems so reawrds have to be bad... IGG give out a lot of their main Currency if you compare to most game of this type, but still is not enough to satisfy some of you. You wanna be of top and play all day to do so, being 1st is the reward. Being see as the #1 guild should be enough of a reward since that's pretty much the goal of game like this, being the best.
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Post by ℜ★Naruto on May 10, 2015 19:01:18 GMT
Lol at exploit. It was never an exploit. The game was poorly designed by the greedy IGG, smart players knew what to do to take advantage of this. Solo guild players didn't cheat.
It's not even close to an exploit. Its more like something that was never meant to be like that. Alot of things were the same, Blood Elf's atk increase was never meant to have no limit, they realized this and added a cap of 2000ATK. Same goes for Great Mystic's revive nerf, creatures use to be able to play their skills and attack on the same turn they were revived.
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Post by Karlostto✪NFS on May 10, 2015 19:13:46 GMT
Yeah the game keeps changing and IGG keeps creating limits and caps, all around.
In the end most updates come with more disappointment than excitement, sadly.
I don't care about those who exploited guild wars, imo I say good job to them.
They saw an opportunity and they took it, no harm in that. I would of done the same if I had killer decks like them
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Post by ℳarty on May 10, 2015 19:28:09 GMT
Some poeple seem to play this game to have a reason to complaint, I don't get it. If you are unhappy with the way the game work and rewards IGG give out for free, why you keep playing it.
I have a 8.3k , stay in the 5-15 arena rank ( mikhal, stargater and other gg players in my arena ) made it top 20 in a guild full of f2p, all this without paying a single dollar. I can clear trial 75, made it to 11-8 so far, sorry but IGG is not gredddy or I couldnt have such results as a free player. And no I haven't been more lucky than most people since my 4 other alt's have similar result. If you ask me, they are more greddy over their p2p players than f2p imo but no one force anyone to buy gems anyway.
I just can't see how I could ask for more as a free players, why would they give me more anyway lol, they are there to make money, but still offer a game where pretty much everything is reachable as a free player, but will take more time to do than if you pay, normal stuff if you ask me.
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Post by ÐARҞNESS on May 10, 2015 19:40:06 GMT
Some poeple seem to play this game to have a reason to complaint, I don't get it. If you are unhappy with the way the game work and rewards IGG give out for free, why you keep playing it. I have a 8.3k , stay in the 5-15 arena rank ( mikhal, stargater and other gg players in my arena ) made it top 20 in a guild full of f2p, all this without paying a single dollar. I can clear trial 75, made it to 11-8 so far, sorry but IGG is not gredddy or I couldnt have such results as a free player. And no I haven't been more lucky than most people since my 4 other alt's have similar result. If you ask me, they are more greddy over their p2p players than f2p imo but no one force anyone to buy gems anyway. I just can't see how I could ask for more as a free players, why would they give me more anyway lol, they are there to make money, but still offer a game where pretty much everything is reachable as a free player, but will take more time to do than if you pay, normal stuff if you ask me. You don't see how they're greedy? When was the last time you saw them introduce a new 5* for F2P players? Where is all the F2P content to stand aside the paid content? This game is about money and greed. Take a look at the purchase rewards, see for yourself. Just because you can get ahead in the game without paying, this doesn't mean IGG isn't greedy. Has it really occurred to anyone that those of us towards the end of the game dislike IGG for a reason? It's not like we woke up one day and decided to hate IGG. Broken mechanics, skewed "RNG's" broken new features, what's there to be thankful for? That they introduce broken mechanics all the time?
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Post by ℳarty on May 10, 2015 19:55:43 GMT
Some poeple seem to play this game to have a reason to complaint, I don't get it. If you are unhappy with the way the game work and rewards IGG give out for free, why you keep playing it. I have a 8.3k , stay in the 5-15 arena rank ( mikhal, stargater and other gg players in my arena ) made it top 20 in a guild full of f2p, all this without paying a single dollar. I can clear trial 75, made it to 11-8 so far, sorry but IGG is not gredddy or I couldnt have such results as a free player. And no I haven't been more lucky than most people since my 4 other alt's have similar result. If you ask me, they are more greddy over their p2p players than f2p imo but no one force anyone to buy gems anyway. I just can't see how I could ask for more as a free players, why would they give me more anyway lol, they are there to make money, but still offer a game where pretty much everything is reachable as a free player, but will take more time to do than if you pay, normal stuff if you ask me. You don't see how they're greedy? When was the last time you saw them introduce a new 5* for F2P players? Where is all the F2P content to stand aside the paid content? This game is about money and greed. Take a look at the purchase rewards, see for yourself. Just because you can get ahead in the game without paying, this doesn't mean IGG isn't greedy. Has it really occurred to anyone that those of us towards the end of the game dislike IGG for a reason? It's not like we woke up one day and decided to hate IGG. Broken mechanics, skewed "RNG's" broken new features, what's there to be thankful for? That they introduce broken mechanics all the time? No I can't see how they are greddy sorry. But being mad because they realease a game with brooking mechanics is something else I could understand ( they will fix it overtime, like they did with gw ) But again all I'm going to ask you is why do you Keep playing it if you are clearly unhappy with the way DH is going? Most game have tons of bugs when 1st released. It happen with company such as Rockstar, EA with game you pay 70$ and are full of micro transactions. Ofc thoses developers fix their game faster but they have lots more moneys, employees and whatever they need to do so lol. All game are aiming toward micro transaction, its a fact we have to deal with nowadays. I do miss the day's where you paid 50-60$ for a FULL game, without expansion being released for 20$ every damn month, but those days are over. All remains for me is to either accept it or stop gaming, 2nd choice will never happen
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Post by DianaTroy [βκ] on May 11, 2015 1:53:14 GMT
Lol at exploit. It was never an exploit. The game was poorly designed by the greedy IGG, smart players knew what to do to take advantage of this. Solo guild players didn't cheat. It's not even close to an exploit. Its more like something that was never meant to be like that. Alot of things were the same, Blood Elf's atk increase was never meant to have no limit, they realized this and added a cap of 2000ATK. Same goes for Great Mystic's revive nerf, creatures use to be able to play their skills and attack on the same turn they were revived. ex·ploit verb ikˈsploit/ 1. make full use of and derive benefit from (a resource). cheat CHēt/ verb gerund or present participle: cheating 1. act dishonestly or unfairly in order to gain an advantage, especially in a game or examination. My advice? Read a dictionary.
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Post by ℜ★Naruto on May 11, 2015 10:22:58 GMT
Lol at exploit. It was never an exploit. The game was poorly designed by the greedy IGG, smart players knew what to do to take advantage of this. Solo guild players didn't cheat. It's not even close to an exploit. Its more like something that was never meant to be like that. Alot of things were the same, Blood Elf's atk increase was never meant to have no limit, they realized this and added a cap of 2000ATK. Same goes for Great Mystic's revive nerf, creatures use to be able to play their skills and attack on the same turn they were revived My advice? Read a dictionary. Solid advice, but you have to forward that to IGG. So many bad english on their game and creature skills not working as its written
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Post by ℜ★Xega on May 11, 2015 17:18:19 GMT
My advice? Read a dictionary. Solid advice, but you have to forward that to IGG. So many bad english on their game and creature skills not working as its written Solo guilds did not cheat, they followed the rules and exploited no glitches in the programming. They did nothing to take advantage of error in the programming. The real cheaters are guilds that send out multiple teams on a guild map to cancel their damage intentionally. Those guilds are exploiting glitches and I have reason to believe (after speaking with support) it is possible players may be banned for heavily abusing that glitch because it is an abuse of programming error.
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Post by DianaTroy [βκ] on May 11, 2015 19:08:14 GMT
Solid advice, but you have to forward that to IGG. So many bad english on their game and creature skills not working as its written Solo guilds did not cheat, they followed the rules and exploited no glitches in the programming. They did nothing to take advantage of error in the programming. The real cheaters are guilds that send out multiple teams on a guild map to cancel their damage intentionally. Those guilds are exploiting glitches and I have reason to believe (after speaking with support) it is possible players may be banned for heavily abusing that glitch because it is an abuse of programming error. You're right that the Guilds exploiting the Guild Map damage glitch are cheating. You're wrong that solo Guilds weren't cheating. You are too bias in your opinions ℜ★Xega. A SOLO Guild is an oxymoron, Guilds are groups of people, not one person. All in all, IGG just had to put a minimum amount of members (like 10) to enter Guild Battles and not cap the rewards. However, it was mostly p2w benefitting from this exploit, so IGG nerfed it only AFTER their cashcows gathered insane amounts of rewards. Think of Guild Battles as a bonus reward for all those who spent tons of money.
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Post by ℜ★Xega on May 11, 2015 19:56:28 GMT
Solo guilds did not cheat, they followed the rules and exploited no glitches in the programming. They did nothing to take advantage of error in the programming. The real cheaters are guilds that send out multiple teams on a guild map to cancel their damage intentionally. Those guilds are exploiting glitches and I have reason to believe (after speaking with support) it is possible players may be banned for heavily abusing that glitch because it is an abuse of programming error. You're right that the Guilds exploiting the Guild Map damage glitch are cheating. You're wrong that solo Guilds weren't cheating. You are too bias in your opinions ℜ★Xega. A SOLO Guild is an oxymoron, Guilds are groups of people, not one person. All in all, IGG just had to put a minimum amount of members (like 10) to enter Guild Battles and not cap the rewards. However, it was mostly p2w benefitting from this exploit, so IGG nerfed it only AFTER their cashcows gathered insane amounts of rewards. Think of Guild Battles as a bonus reward for all those who spent tons of money. Haha, solo guilds are an oxymoron, I didn't even realize. Good call on that I did not do a solo guild, so I didn't benefit from all from it... I'm also star only. I am giving players information I was given by IGG as to what constitutes cheating. Players in solo guilds did not exploit glitches in programing, they played within the intended rules. Player that are exploiting an outright glitch are cheating. Damage was always meant to count on guild maps, so to make it not count intentionally to gain an artificially high number of shards and gold is cheating because players are exploiting a glitch. Total rewards was originally meant to be divided by number of players in guild wars regardless of the number. I do agree a minimum 10 or 20 players should have been required for guild wars to start with, but not having that minimum originally was not a glitch.
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Post by ℳarty on May 11, 2015 21:34:12 GMT
I have nothing against people who did this, I'm against IGG inaction to do something at this time. I'm pretty sure it was easy not to send the rewards, admit their mistakes and give out a compensation equal to the rewards they first intended to give. Not only they let happen a huge gap between player who did it and player who did not, but they lost money in the process, its a non-sence to me. As for solo guild, I have no prob against them. I run one with alt's so I have complete control over shards and can boost main account. I don't feel like I abuse anything, I have to do all the contributions, all the guild map dmg alone, its only normal I collect all the shards
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Post by ℜ★Xega on May 11, 2015 23:04:33 GMT
I have nothing against people who did this, I'm against IGG inaction to do something at this time. I'm pretty sure it was easy not to send the rewards, admit their mistakes and give out a compensation equal to the rewards they first intended to give. Not only they let happen a huge gap between player who did it and player who did not, but they lost money in the process, its a non-sence to me. As for solo guild, I have no prob against them. I run one with alt's so I have complete control over shards and can boost main account. I don't feel like I abuse anything, I have to do all the contributions, all the guild map dmg alone, its only normal I collect all the shards I've spoken with support regarding the use of multiple accounts, there seems to be no restrictions on how many alt accounts a player can use. Support actually seemed to encourage the use of more multiple accounts, haha.
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Post by ℳarty on May 12, 2015 1:30:06 GMT
I have nothing against people who did this, I'm against IGG inaction to do something at this time. I'm pretty sure it was easy not to send the rewards, admit their mistakes and give out a compensation equal to the rewards they first intended to give. Not only they let happen a huge gap between player who did it and player who did not, but they lost money in the process, its a non-sence to me. As for solo guild, I have no prob against them. I run one with alt's so I have complete control over shards and can boost main account. I don't feel like I abuse anything, I have to do all the contributions, all the guild map dmg alone, its only normal I collect all the shards I've spoken with support regarding the use of multiple accounts, there seems to be no restrictions on how many alt accounts a player can use. Support actually seemed to encourage the use of more multiple accounts, haha. yes, on the official "enlarge your p***s" forum, moderator have a thread explaining how to make multiple accounts.
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Post by ricoblue on May 31, 2015 8:16:15 GMT
All people were effected. I may not feel it as bad as you did (my guild makes top 20, and we all get 15k glory, but now we get under that), but we still feel it. This game is one made to get $. Every event will be designed that way. for some players 15k glory and 5k guild credits isn't much, but for others it's a lot. Especially those trying to get to a certain plateau. Outside of needing to "spend money" to have better creatures, gw is free. Rewards could be better especially on the lower end, and for time investment, but it's relatively free. For those who got millions in prizes, I hate to say it, but they deserve it. Outside of glitching, they got what I'm sure many spent crazy money to be able to achieve. that's the p2w system unfortunately.
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Post by Opethian on May 31, 2015 10:03:58 GMT
My thoughts on this: IGG are somewhat greedy. But that's a given with *anything* that involves money. They wouldn't get anywhere without that "incentive". The real losers are the (star) F2P players. It is unfair to dismiss Guild Battles as a whole, as most F2P players use this as an opportunity to get free gems and whatnot. You can see who isn't F2P based on the responses on this thread. Capping the rewards was a knee-jerk solution to a bigger issue. Again, proof that greed is in the mix here. I bet Guild Battles don't make much money for IGG. Guild Battles is a glorified pissing contest. Don't lose sight of the fact that we all share a common passion for the game. Use this as an opportunity to meet new people and build new relationships. Exploits going to be exploited, haters going to hate, and it's what you do during these situations that count. --- Meanwhile, I'm personally happy I placed 80th, our guild FAMES is 18th and I scored some credits to purchase shards in the Guild Shop for the coming week.
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Post by DmnHard✪NFS on Jul 9, 2015 10:08:51 GMT
What was the reward with solo guild exploit and how it works? Just interesting. I read about this exploit only today.
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