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Post by SoaponaRope [BK] on Mar 12, 2015 19:48:52 GMT
So I've finally evolved my second Sword master and gotta work on melding her - I should have enough dupes.
My first one got Venom Blade which works like a freaking charm against melee decks. I'm almost positive I'm going to be doing life sap for the second. I'm very excited to run both these together!
Next card up is Techno-Chief. Now, I get the point of battle blow for him, amazing damage output, but I'm also really looking at other options. The reason is, his Bloodlust is really cool.
So other options I can readily think of are Frost Armor, tank and build 90 Atk per turn. Lifesap, full heal every turn so you have to one-shot him.
In reality, battle blow is very nice because no matter what Techno isn't a tank, he's succeptable to either physical or magic dmg no matter what. But I still feel like it's a missed opportunity to not keep him in longer and grow his Atk through Bloodlust.
Does anyone actually have an evolved Techno-Chief, or have experience with one. I'd really appreciate any thoughts on it!
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Post by ÐARҞNESS on Mar 12, 2015 19:53:14 GMT
Lifesap seems to be the winner there, unless you're able to replenish his HP otherwise, then I think frost armour would work great on him.. hmm.. decisions, decisions..
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Post by Somar [BK] on Mar 12, 2015 19:56:02 GMT
I would go with life sap, the guy already increases damage with every hit, so healing for me would be a priority, my reasons:
with battleblow u can add damage every other hit, but u might lose him in the 2nd hit he takes, with life sap, u keep fully healing while he increases damage every turn he's in play,
this is just my humble opinion though
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2015 20:13:44 GMT
I would go with frost armor because if he is paralyzed or skipped he's pretty much screwed with lifesap and might not survive long. With frost armor you don't have to worry about that and if you meld frost armor 3 he has a better chance at surviving longer and you only need 2 healers to keep him alive. But then again it's all situational. You have to consider bullseye And players decks.
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Post by DianaTroy [βκ] on Mar 12, 2015 20:16:09 GMT
Life-Sap to me seems the obvious choice. Paired with Bloodlust, it's pure murderific!
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Post by Borbland✪NFS on Mar 12, 2015 21:00:55 GMT
Life Sap is great, but Frost Armor is better to stack that Bloodlust.
Life Sap is countered by heavy nuking or stuns. I thought of astrong Stabthrough, but most humans don't have many hero killings tools.
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Post by DianaTroy [βκ] on Mar 12, 2015 21:19:36 GMT
Life Sap is great, but Frost Armor is better to stack that Bloodlust. Life Sap is countered by heavy nuking or stuns. I thought of astrong Stabthrough, but most humans don't have many hero killings tools. You can't go wrong with either Life Sap or Frost Armor on Techno-Chief. It'll depend on what purpose he plans on using Techno-Chief for.
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Post by SoaponaRope [BK] on Mar 12, 2015 21:37:40 GMT
Life Sap is great, but Frost Armor is better to stack that Bloodlust. Life Sap is countered by heavy nuking or stuns. I thought of astrong Stabthrough, but most humans don't have many hero killings tools. You can't go wrong with either Life Sap or Frost Armor on Techno-Chief. It'll depend on what purpose he plans on using Techno-Chief for. Indeed. Well I plan on having my 2 Swordmasters which I'm currently using in almost every deck setup. I was thinking of using Swordmaster in my Human deck only which I always use Gladiator for. I generally run something like: Gladiator - Chains 4 - ATK Buff - Impact or Frost Shell (currently Frost Shell but planning on moving back) Thalassa (Horned Beast eventually) Thalassa (Horned Beast eventually) Sword Master /w Venom Edge Sword Master /w Life Sap (soon) Techno-Chief Techno-Chief Flame Mage Flame Mage Swing -> Undying Will / Oracle / Paladin Swing -> Cyclops / Oracle / Paladin / Border Ranger with Weakness I hope to get an Ares in the not too distant future but I have been very unlucky with Human 5-stars. Even with Ares at this point, the Sword Masters are honestly a lot more reliable so I don't know. This decks nice because of the AoE. I sit back for a few turns with no creatures or just a few tanks out and build rage and then drop in 5 with Chains on and almost always will wipe the entire group out. Now, Battleblow on Techno-Chief will help assist that even more, but it does have its weaknesses. Really big decks hit hard back, and good tanks can usually survive the damage (although Chains going around Dodge/Frost Armor is pretty handy) and I notice my Techno-Chief dying ~2 rounds afterwards which is why I want to modify him. I feel like 4 Frost Armors wouldn't hurt, and would help turn him into a physical tank. Life Sap, though, will probably let him survive through his real weakness which is a handful of casters, but if he gets locked down or dodged or has nothing in front of him then he wont have the opportunity to heal again. Anyways sorry for the wall of text. I just gotta decide and try one. Either way it can't be bad, I like the idea of Life Sap I'm just worried it wont work for some reason, but I'll give my Swordmaster Life Sap and maybe that will help me decide.
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Post by DianaTroy [βκ] on Mar 12, 2015 21:41:53 GMT
With that deck, which is similar in my idea for a Human deck, you just have to be careful against Faen decks. If the hero has Agile or Lightfoot, you'll toss your phone after seeing 4 Sweeping Blows hit a total of 2 creatures.
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Post by SoaponaRope [BK] on Mar 12, 2015 21:44:03 GMT
With that deck, which is similar in my idea for a Human deck, you just have to be careful against Faen decks. If the hero has Agile or Lightfoot, you'll toss your phone after seeing 4 Sweeping Blows hit a total of 2 creatures. Haha... in which case Battleblow and Lifesap are equally useless.
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Post by Somar [BK] on Mar 12, 2015 21:46:04 GMT
With that deck, which is similar in my idea for a Human deck, you just have to be careful against Faen decks. If the hero has Agile or Lightfoot, you'll toss your phone after seeing 4 Sweeping Blows hit a total of 2 creatures. Lol, indeed, those damn AI modified %s are a pain in the A**.
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Post by Borbland✪NFS on Mar 13, 2015 7:50:47 GMT
That's where Frost Armor is good at:
Being really constant. Except for Bulleye and that Titania skill, it blocks anything physical.
Life Sap and Battleblow are really good, but on some situations like Dodge or Frost Armor, they lose some utility.
But hey, depends too where you're gonna play him, in guild maps life sap/battleblow can be more useful vs magic deck
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Post by hellion✪NFS on Mar 13, 2015 8:49:31 GMT
Im currently melding Bloodthirst 7 onto my Techno Chief but ran out of gold I dont have a Human Deck but I hope that Bloodthirst will keep him alive long enough to deal decent damage in the Guild Map. Both, Frost Armor and Bloodthirst have its Pro's and Con's If you get disabled, you are probably dead when you go for Bloodthirst. Against heavy magic users Frost Armor wont help much. In an full Human Deck like yours i would probably go for Bloodthirst because you can get Frost Shell which saves him at least for a few rounds.
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Post by devindestroyer on Mar 19, 2015 20:04:48 GMT
Which maze is the best to find T-Chief? Im trying to meld battleblow onto mine except I ran out of copies (3 extra) i've had them so long i dont know where I got them from. Thank you!
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Post by DianaTroy [βκ] on Mar 19, 2015 21:05:53 GMT
Which maze is the best to find T-Chief? Im trying to meld battleblow onto mine except I ran out of copies (3 extra) i've had them so long i dont know where I got them from. Thank you! Maze drops are all 100% random. So, ALL mazes are the best.
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Post by tanner23 on Mar 21, 2015 0:51:09 GMT
I ran into a techno chief melded with sacrifice in guild wars. That thing was terrible. Decimated my best deck by round 8. That meld with 2 healers and he just flat out kills everything.
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Post by DianaTroy [βκ] on Mar 21, 2015 1:00:50 GMT
I ran into a techno chief melded with sacrifice in guild wars. That thing was terrible. Decimated my best deck by round 8. That meld with 2 healers and he just flat out kills everything. Yikes!
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Post by Hitmus2✪NFS(xerks) on Mar 25, 2015 6:08:39 GMT
Cool, makes me think on my techno chief that i find it hard to put in my human deck. Techno chief melded with sacrifice paired with 2 oracles, it might feel nice
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Post by dexx on Mar 25, 2015 8:37:13 GMT
Sacrifice is useless vs frost armor or lockdown, just puts you a creature behind.
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Post by entropy✪NFS on Mar 25, 2015 9:13:37 GMT
Sacrifice is useless vs frost armor or lockdown, just puts you a creature behind. I agree with dexx - if you (or in case of Guild Wars the computer) put anything with frost armor opposite to techno, then sacrifice just made the deck with techno weaker (except if they have recyle(s) ready to bring back the dead). Also techno would still be susceptible to lockdowns of every kind. I think Techno is not a solid choice for Sacrifice - maybe for Exploration maps, the tactics could be used to your advantage, but besides that I don't feel it's very viable.
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Post by dreyerg on Mar 25, 2015 9:39:04 GMT
I have a lot of spare Technos, going for Life Sap or Frost Armor.
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Post by bigstab [NFS] on Mar 29, 2015 15:13:26 GMT
Hey a little off topic but didnt want to start a new thread cause its about techno chief. I am working on a morti hero killer deck, I wasnt planning on a human deck until I get at least a 3 star hero. Either way I was thinking stabthrough would synergyze since I dont have alot of hero killing morti. Would that just be a waste of my good fortune in finding 5 of these guys?
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Post by entropy✪NFS on Mar 29, 2015 18:27:03 GMT
Hey a little off topic but didnt want to start a new thread cause its about techno chief. I am working on a morti hero killer deck, I wasnt planning on a human deck until I get at least a 3 star hero. Either way I was thinking stabthrough would synergyze since I dont have alot of hero killing morti. Would that just be a waste of my good fortune in finding 5 of these guys? Yes, I think that's not ideal to meld stabthrough on Techno. Other consideration is that you won't be able to use Techno in Guild maps, as it would proc Mantra, which you don't want There are a lot of hero killer 3-star Mortii creatures out there, which will come to you eventually, don't sacrifice your Techno Chief for a very limited purpose.
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Post by ani (xc100) on Feb 5, 2016 16:33:49 GMT
I have 1 lvl10 TC and 5 copies. In few days, I will evolve him. Just wanted to know what meld should I place on him. I have few options in my mind.
FA Immunity (but as I have drone, I dont think it is needed for TC) Sac (need to work towards second VT for this) Life Sap
I was thinking about FA as, if he is placed against someone like Blood Elf or any BB bearer, at least he will be able to counter them nicely. But then, suggestions from pros are worth reading.
(Side note: I don't use a pure human deck even in tourneys but I have every resource to make one with lvl 5 dragon rider and same lvl Royal Guard. I just want my TC to be in it as a trump card)
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Post by Sick. on Feb 5, 2016 17:29:57 GMT
I have 1 lvl10 TC and 5 copies. In few days, I will evolve him. Just wanted to know what meld should I place on him. I have few options in my mind. FA Immunity (but as I have drone, I dont think it is needed for TC) Sac (need to work towards second VT for this) Life Sap I was thinking about FA as, if he is placed against someone like Blood Elf or any BB bearer, at least he will be able to counter them nicely. But then, suggestions from pros are worth reading. (Side note: I don't use a pure human deck even in tourneys but I have every resource to make one with lvl 5 dragon rider and same lvl Royal Guard. I just want my TC to be in it as a trump card) I've got an Techno Chief Melded with Life Sap 8 and it's not as strong as it sounds, im in the process of melding a Frost Armor 5 on him and replace the Life Sap. Life Sap has its uses but Frost Armor is better choice in my opinion.
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Post by icezaius on Feb 6, 2016 0:31:14 GMT
I had a lifesap 8 tc that I switched to frost blade 5. Liked lifesap much more! It still seemed to die a LOT because it was always locked down. With a drone in play it might be better. It was a beast on guild maps before the update. I expect it would be even better in a zora deck for gm
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Post by ani (xc100) on Feb 6, 2016 1:42:12 GMT
So final decision : FA for techno C. Thnx guys
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Post by sylava1 on Feb 6, 2016 7:21:00 GMT
I put rip on one. Might be use full sometime. Also got two stabthrough. Those i use a lot in gauntlet.
Somehow u got a ton of these so will try a new meld. Probably frost armor
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Post by ani (xc100) on Feb 7, 2016 13:14:06 GMT
FA techno is really really awesome. Melded mine today with FA3. And he is killing cards like a bomb.
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Post by galgron on Feb 8, 2016 1:01:39 GMT
I think putting frost armor on techno is kinda of a waste would much rather put Bloodlust 7 on a swordmaster. But lifesap has some promise kind of like a sweepingblow panther chief and who wouldn't want a sweeping blow panther chief.
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