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Post by BK✦GamerGurl33 on Dec 9, 2015 21:34:21 GMT
I use the DH Wikia a lot for reference because the information is so easy to access and so well organized. However there used to be a wonderful page that I went to often which had a table of all the talents that were available when you refreshed your hero's talents, organized by what they did. For instance, it listed all the different Frost Armor talents like Ice Shell and Ice Shield, showing which ones were available to each hero star level, and the differences between them.
This page seems to no longer exist, as the link now redirects to a page which lists all the heroes by faction and their skill and the talents that they come with when you first get them. This page is good for what it is, but it in no way replaces the other page. I posted a message on the wikia page last week, asking if anyone knew what had happened to the previous page, but I've not gotten a reply. If anyone knows where I can find this information, or the new link to the page (if it still exists), please let me know.
Currently there seems to be much good new information posted on the wikia, but it has not been updated in the navigation index at the top of the page, so as far as I can tell anyway, it's impossible to know what new info is there or how to get to it. I've stumbled upon a couple of these new pages by seeing references and links to them elsewhere, but it would be really nice if we had a better way to find out about the new content and links to it, within the central index area.
Sorry, I hate to complain because I know those of you who work on the wikia do really good work and work very hard, and I admit I have not had the time to contribute to it that I thought I would when I first started playing DH. It's just frustrating when there was really good information that had been there and I had relied on for the last six months, and now all of a sudden it's gone.
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Post by ℜ★God on Dec 9, 2015 21:57:27 GMT
I use the DH Wikia a lot for reference because the information is so easy to access and so well organized. However there used to be a wonderful page that I went to often which had a table of all the talents that were available when you refreshed your hero's talents, organized by what they did. For instance, it listed all the different Frost Armor talents like Ice Shell and Ice Shield, showing which ones were available to each hero star level, and the differences between them. This page seems to no longer exist, as the link now redirects to a page which lists all the heroes by faction and their skill and the talents that they come with when you first get them. This page is good for what it is, but it in no way replaces the other page. I posted a message on the wikia page last week, asking if anyone knew what had happened to the previous page, but I've not gotten a reply. If anyone knows where I can find this information, or the new link to the page (if it still exists), please let me know. Currently there seems to be much good new information posted on the wikia, but it has not been updated in the navigation index at the top of the page, so as far as I can tell anyway, it's impossible to know what new info is there or how to get to it. I've stumbled upon a couple of these new pages by seeing references and links to them elsewhere, but it would be really nice if we had a better way to find out about the new content and links to it, within the central index area. Sorry, I hate to complain because I know those of you who work on the wikia do really good work and work very hard, and I admit I have not had the time to contribute to it that I thought I would when I first started playing DH. It's just frustrating when there was really good information that had been there and I had relied on for the last six months, and now all of a sudden it's gone. I work on the Wikia quite a bit, and am even a moderator over there; however, I've never heard of this missing page that you're referring to. If you want, I'll gladly try to make a new one (although it will definitely take a few hours, since there are many talents to go through XD).
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Post by BK✦GamerGurl33 on Dec 10, 2015 1:28:32 GMT
I use the DH Wikia a lot for reference because the information is so easy to access and so well organized. However there used to be a wonderful page that I went to often which had a table of all the talents that were available when you refreshed your hero's talents, organized by what they did. For instance, it listed all the different Frost Armor talents like Ice Shell and Ice Shield, showing which ones were available to each hero star level, and the differences between them. This page seems to no longer exist, as the link now redirects to a page which lists all the heroes by faction and their skill and the talents that they come with when you first get them. This page is good for what it is, but it in no way replaces the other page. I posted a message on the wikia page last week, asking if anyone knew what had happened to the previous page, but I've not gotten a reply. If anyone knows where I can find this information, or the new link to the page (if it still exists), please let me know. Currently there seems to be much good new information posted on the wikia, but it has not been updated in the navigation index at the top of the page, so as far as I can tell anyway, it's impossible to know what new info is there or how to get to it. I've stumbled upon a couple of these new pages by seeing references and links to them elsewhere, but it would be really nice if we had a better way to find out about the new content and links to it, within the central index area. Sorry, I hate to complain because I know those of you who work on the wikia do really good work and work very hard, and I admit I have not had the time to contribute to it that I thought I would when I first started playing DH. It's just frustrating when there was really good information that had been there and I had relied on for the last six months, and now all of a sudden it's gone. I work on the Wikia quite a bit, and am even a moderator over there; however, I've never heard of this missing page that you're referring to. If you want, I'll gladly try to make a new one (although it will definitely take a few hours, since there are many talents to go through XD). Yes, God, it would be a tremendous amount of work, but since someone or probably a bunch of people must have put a lot of time and effort originally into making it, it seems like it just wouldn't have been just discarded. Maybe it's archived somewhere? Can you ask the wikia master if he knows what happened to it?
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Post by ℜ★God on Dec 10, 2015 1:30:38 GMT
I work on the Wikia quite a bit, and am even a moderator over there; however, I've never heard of this missing page that you're referring to. If you want, I'll gladly try to make a new one (although it will definitely take a few hours, since there are many talents to go through XD). Yes, God, it would be a tremendous amount of work, but since someone or probably a bunch of people must have put a lot of time and effort originally into making it, it seems like it just wouldn't have been just discarded. Maybe it's archived somewhere? Can you ask the wikia master if he knows what happened to it? I'll certainly look into it! Any idea what the page was called?
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Post by BK✦GamerGurl33 on Dec 10, 2015 1:39:02 GMT
Yes, it was called "Hero Talents". I just tried to go into my browser history (I use Firefox since I play on an android emulator on my laptop) to see if I could pull it up from October. The link takes me to a blank page, which at some point was amended to redirect to the new "Hero Talents" page I described in my OP. I hope someone didn't accidently delete it and there was no backup for it . It was one of the most useful reference pages that the wikia had. I believe whoever made the original "Creature Skills" page must have also put this "Hero Talents" page together. From what I remember, the formatting was very similar.
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Post by ℜ★God on Dec 10, 2015 1:40:47 GMT
Yes, it was called "Hero Talents". I just tried to go into my browser history (I use Firefox since I play on an android emulator on my laptop) to see if I could pull it up from October. The link takes me to a blank page, which at some point was amended to redirect to the new "Hero Talents" page I described in my OP. I hope someone didn't accidently delete it and there was no backup for it . It was one of the most useful reference pages that the wikia had. The page sounds familiar. I'm looking in the Wikia Activity right now to see if it logged what happened to it.
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Post by ℜ★God on Dec 10, 2015 1:59:29 GMT
Okay, I have searched through the logs of changes made, and, unfortunately, it only saves the last 500 edits that have been made. So the page must have been changed before that. This means that I can't restore the page, unfortunately; however, I can just recreate it myself.
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Post by Sinister22✪NFS on Dec 10, 2015 2:17:25 GMT
I have noticed it was gone 3 weeks ago. I am also an editor but couldnt find any logs about the deletion of page. It now refirects me to "hero skills " instead
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Post by BK✦GamerGurl33 on Dec 10, 2015 5:31:34 GMT
I'm so sorry about this, God, but I really came to rely on it, as I imagine others did as well. I guess it must have accidently gotten deleted, so if you can recreate it I'm sure many of us DH players will be singing your praises. The talents were grouped, with one section for the ones that all factions can have, and then a separate listing for those that are specific to each faction, and as I said, it was formatted much the same as the Creature Skills page. It had some general info about hero talents at the top of the page, then the table of skills. The table entries were organized something like this: (info may not be correct - just an example). Of course it looked a lot nicer than this, lol. Talent
| Faction | Type
| Activates
| Effect
| (Don't Know what this heading said)
| Icicle
| All
| Delay
| May be cast up to 3 times if the enemy has any Creatures in play.
| Deals 25-250 (25 x Rank) Magic DMG to 1 random enemy Creature. Has 20% chance to inflict Freeze causing enemy to skip next action.
| Icespear
| All
| Delay
| May be cast up to 3 times if enemy has any creatures in play
| Deals 25-250 (25 x Rank) Magic DMG to 2 random enemy Creatures. Has 25% chance to inflict Freeze causing enemy to skip next action.
| 2-3 star
| Hail
| All
| Delay
| May be cast up to 3 times if the enemy has more than 2 Creatures in play
| Deals 25-250 (25 x Rank) Magic DMG to 3 random enemy Creature. Has 30% chance to inflict Freeze causing enemy to skip next action.
| 3-4 star
| Deep Freeze
| All
| Delay
| May be cast up to 2 times if the enemy has more than 2 Creatures in play
| Deals 25-250 (25 x Rank) Magic DMG to 5 random enemy Creature. Has 35% chance to inflict Freeze causing enemy to skip next action.
| 4-5 star
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| All
| Delay
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| 5 star
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Anyway, this gives you the general idea of how it looked. I hate trying to create tables using the forum table app, cause it's very tough to work with and I never get it right. At the end of the "Icicle" row it should say "2 star" but somehow I made it think that that column space was joined to the one before it and now I can't get the "2 star" to go back in there. But, I think you still get the idea. I took this info from the talents that are shown on the card refresh page, but the person who made the original table had ALL the talents like Undying for Mortii, etc. that don't seem to be listed anywhere (except on the page that's missing of course). Good luck in recreating this info, God. You'll need a lot of "Godliness" to do it, I'm afraid.
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Post by ℜ★God on Dec 10, 2015 5:43:34 GMT
I'm so sorry about this, God, but I really came to rely on it, as I imagine others did as well. I guess it must have accidently gotten deleted, so if you can recreate it I'm sure many of us DH players will be singing your praises. The talents were grouped, with one section for the ones that all factions can have, and then a separate listing for those that are specific to each faction, and as I said, it was formatted much the same as the Creature Skills page. It had some general info about hero talents at the top of the page, then the table of skills. The table entries were organized something like this: (info may not be correct - just an example). Of course it looked a lot nicer than this, lol. Talent
| Faction | Type
| Activates
| Effect
| (Don't Know what this heading said)
| Icicle
| All
| Delay
| May be cast up to 3 times if the enemy has any Creatures in play.
| Deals 25-250 (25 x Rank) Magic DMG to 1 random enemy Creature. Has 20% chance to inflict Freeze causing enemy to skip next action.
| Icespear
| All
| Delay
| May be cast up to 3 times if enemy has any creatures in play
| Deals 25-250 (25 x Rank) Magic DMG to 2 random enemy Creatures. Has 25% chance to inflict Freeze causing enemy to skip next action.
| 2-3 star
| Hail
| All
| Delay
| May be cast up to 3 times if the enemy has more than 2 Creatures in play
| Deals 25-250 (25 x Rank) Magic DMG to 3 random enemy Creature. Has 30% chance to inflict Freeze causing enemy to skip next action.
| 3-4 star
| Deep Freeze
| All
| Delay
| May be cast up to 2 times if the enemy has more than 2 Creatures in play
| Deals 25-250 (25 x Rank) Magic DMG to 5 random enemy Creature. Has 35% chance to inflict Freeze causing enemy to skip next action.
| 4-5 star
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| All
| Delay
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| 5 star
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Anyway, this gives you the general idea of how it looked. I hate trying to create tables using the forum table app, cause it's very tough to work with and I never get it right. At the end of the "Icicle" row it should say "2 star" but somehow I made it think that that column space was joined to the one before it and now I can't get the "2 star" to go back in there. But, I think you still get the idea. I took this info from the talents that are shown on the card refresh page, but the person who made the original table had ALL the talents like Undying for Mortii, etc. that don't seem to be listed anywhere (except on the page that's missing of course). Good luck in recreating this info, God. You'll need a lot of "Godliness" to do it, I'm afraid. I just spent a few hours recreating it for you (the page can be found here: deck-heroes.wikia.com/wiki/Hero_Talents ). It is grouped like the example you gave (for the most part); however, it does not contain the activation requirements, nor are the descriptions as specific, so I'll go back in tomorrow and add all of that if you would like. Also, I don't have a 5 star hero yet (I'm so damn close to Armageddon...), so all of the 5 star hero talents came off of the top of my head. Therefore, I may be missing a few. If you notice anything that is missing, just tell me and I will add it in.
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Post by BK✦GamerGurl33 on Dec 10, 2015 19:18:39 GMT
Thank you so much, God, for doing this. I haven't checked it out yet, but I'm sure it's great. Perhaps some of our members who have a 5* hero can help with adding the info for them.
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Post by BK✦GamerGurl33 on Dec 10, 2015 21:02:43 GMT
Hey, God,
Checked the page out, and it's a great start on the re-creation. Thanks again so much for getting this done so quickly.
As you have time and perhaps help from some other members, I hope it can be a work in progress to flesh the details out more fully as they were on the deleted page. If I can get some time away from RL activities, I will try to help too. I don't think the original page creator had all the information when he first posted it either, since as I said it's a huge project.
It's pretty important to have the activation and effects info and the groupings by talent type, since the main purpose of this page is to be able compare talents to see the difference between them quickly and easily, and know which ones are available for your hero. Then it's easier to decide which talent is going to be best for you, i.e. have it proc 3 times with lesser effect or only 2 times but hit 5 enemy creatures (Hail vs Deep Freeze in my example). The information can be added as people have the time to do it.
In my example to find the talent "type", I used the Creature Skills page to look up Freeze, which is classified as a "Delay" skill. Keeping the same classification system throughout the wikia will avoid confusion when looking at the different pages. The activation and effects info is easy to add when you have the talents grouped by type, since they're basically all worded the same. After typing the first one, just copy and paste for others of the same type, making minor changes like from "1 creature" to "2 creatures", and it goes really fast.
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Post by ℜ★God on Dec 10, 2015 21:23:51 GMT
Hey, God, Checked the page out, and it's a great start on the re-creation. Thanks again so much for getting this done so quickly. As you have time and perhaps help from some other members, I hope it can be a work in progress to flesh the details out more fully as they were on the deleted page. If I can get some time away from RL activities, I will try to help too. I don't think the original page creator had all the information when he first posted it either, since as I said it's a huge project. It's pretty important to have the activation and effects info and the groupings by talent type, since the main purpose of this page is to be able compare talents to see the difference between them quickly and easily, and know which ones are available for your hero. Then it's easier to decide which talent is going to be best for you, i.e. have it proc 3 times with lesser effect or only 2 times but hit 5 enemy creatures (Hail vs Deep Freeze in my example). The information can be added as people have the time to do it. In my example to find the talent "type", I used the Creature Skills page to look up Freeze, which is classified as a "Delay" skill. Keeping the same classification system throughout the wikia will avoid confusion when looking at the different pages. The activation and effects info is easy to add when you have the talents grouped by type, since they're basically all worded the same. After typing the first one, just copy and paste for others of the same type, making minor changes like from "1 creature" to "2 creatures", and it goes really fast. Well, I'll certainly work on the missing information sometime today
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Post by BK✦GamerGurl33 on Jan 10, 2016 19:01:34 GMT
Hey, God,
Just wanted to say a big "thanks" for your excellent work in re-creating the Hero Talents page. Hadn't been there since before the holidays, but I just checked it out today and it is great! All the info we had before, in easy to go through format.
Thanks again so much for doing this for all us DH players. It is really helpful and a great resource.
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