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Post by zach33 on Jul 27, 2016 13:56:54 GMT
I have seen the formulas for orange equipment, but they take too long for me to try and get them as a ftp player. I could not find the formula for purple equipment. Anyone know the best way to get purple equipment of each level?
(As a side note, is there any way to get materials like acidic jawbone other than events?)
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Post by darth on Jul 27, 2016 14:29:45 GMT
easiest for f2p is to upgrade 4 equipments of one level. let's say you want a purple level 5 belt. so
1. make 4 level 5 white belts using only white material. (this will take you 2x4x4 = 32 hours.) (2 hrs/material x 4 material/white belt x 4 white belts) 2. upgrade these 4 to a level 5 green belt. (click on a white belt, there will be an upgrade button) 3. repeat process till you get a purple level 5 belt.
equipment created by this method will have the lowest of skill numbers (e.g. such a purple level 5 belt will have only 10% skill potency) and will have NO secondary skill. still, it's the easiest and surest way for an f2p to acquire such items, plus 10% skill potency is not a small thing, really.
postscript: it will take you close to 20 days to make a level 5 purple item this way without spending a single gem, and 85 days to make an orange item.
and no. acidic jawbones etc cannot be created in the smelt.
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Post by sblip on Jul 27, 2016 16:56:34 GMT
Don't forget lucky flip. In 20 days time, you are going to get minimum 3-4 purple mats, even with abysmal luck. That is a purple equipment all by itself (albeit, it might not be the equipment you want)
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Post by zoso on Jul 27, 2016 18:33:26 GMT
Don't forget lucky flip. In 20 days time, you are going to get minimum 3-4 purple mats, even with abysmal luck. That is a purple equipment all by itself (albeit, it might not be the equipment you want) No way, not for the F2P who doesn't spend any gems at all on lucky flip. My experience is that lucky flip is rigged so that you don't get the higher level materials on the 1st free flip.
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Post by sblip on Jul 27, 2016 18:37:45 GMT
That's just not the case. I never flip more than 3, and I always refresh after 2 if I get a blue or higher. Yes, this assumes spending 5 gems for the 2nd flip.. even if you aren't doing that, you are going to get more than 7 whites in a week. I recommend even f2p doing the 5 gem flip, if you are serious about getting equipment.
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Post by Eladion on Jul 27, 2016 18:39:35 GMT
Don't forget lucky flip. In 20 days time, you are going to get minimum 3-4 purple mats, even with abysmal luck. That is a purple equipment all by itself (albeit, it might not be the equipment you want) No way, not for the F2P who doesn't spend any gems at all on lucky flip. My experience is that lucky flip is rigged so that you don't get the higher level materials on the 1st free flip. Well, sometimes you do. I even got an orange material on my first flip.
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Post by sblip on Jul 27, 2016 18:55:08 GMT
There is a post on here somewhere where evo303 got 2 oranges in a row. No, that will never happen to any of the REST of us, but .. it does happen.
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Post by Nafai✪APeXNFS on Jul 27, 2016 21:59:10 GMT
I spend 750 gems on lucky flip yesterday doing only 2 or 3 flips and I got no orange and only one purple...
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Post by kahl on Jul 28, 2016 3:25:50 GMT
Lucky Flip is stupid. I don't know how others get orange mats there but it's like programmed to get white mat on your two flips "ALWAYS".
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Post by scatterbrain on Jul 28, 2016 7:15:43 GMT
Lucky Flip is stupid. I don't know how others get orange mats there but it's like programmed to get white mat on your two flips "ALWAYS". Not always, kahl, I got an orange sawtooth and blue item (fur, I think) on my flips today and I have consistently bad luck on this game as other on here know already
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Post by kahl on Jul 28, 2016 7:26:03 GMT
Lucky Flip is stupid. I don't know how others get orange mats there but it's like programmed to get white mat on your two flips "ALWAYS". Not always, kahl, I got an orange sawtooth and blue item (fur, I think) on my flips today and I have consistently bad luck on this game as other on here know already I always feel whenever I flip it is going to be a white mat and yes that's me everyday. Ugh. Good for you, man. So jealous.
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Post by zairto on Jul 28, 2016 7:40:16 GMT
I won't go for any purple. Working for a lv3 gold, and it's a part of making lv5 gold
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Post by japoon on Jul 28, 2016 8:07:30 GMT
I do believe there is tricky in the lucky flip. I am 10000000% sure the probability is not 1/9 when you saw a Orange Material in one of Flip. I don't know the mechanism but we all know Stupid IGG is always cheating all of us. I know getting a Orange Materials in the 1st flip is not 0%, but it definitely not 1/9.
I don't mind if I see the probability is only 1/100 or 1/200 but I do mind the illusion created by IGG.
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Post by spizz0 on Jul 28, 2016 8:10:59 GMT
Ofc materials of different grade have not the same chance to be caught in lucky flip, the 9-card disposition is just an illusion. Wherever you tap, low-grade materials will be more likely to show up. This picture does not prove anything, I know, but look at this
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Post by japoon on Jul 28, 2016 8:21:44 GMT
Ofc materials of different grade have not the same chance to be caught in lucky flip, the 9-card disposition is just an illusion. Wherever you tap, low-grade materials will be more likely to show up. This picture does not prove anything, I know, but look at this I always draw Lvl1-2 material in my first 2 draw. I have 4 Accounts which draw total 8 times per day. I draw 20 days with 160 times with - 80% Lvl1 material - 15% Lvl2 material - 5% Lvl3 material Lvl4-5 never shown up in my 1st draw. I know there is someone who draw and show the picture here the 1st draw 5* material. But do you know how many gems they spend on drawing the material?? Talking about 8000 gems -20000 gems to have 1-2 times 1st draw 5* material. I don't think it is the normal probability. It is super luck to have such thing happen!
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Post by kahl on Jul 28, 2016 8:25:57 GMT
That's what I'm saying. Feels like you'll draw white mat every time you do 1st two flips.
Happened to twice, there's only 2 white mats and of course after drawing 2 flips all I got is that crap white mats. Fuckkk that, IGG.
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Post by icezaius on Jul 28, 2016 11:28:15 GMT
Back to the original question for a minute. From what you guys have said, you can get better equipment by crafting it out of better materials as opposed to upgrading equipment from low level to higher level? Is this for sure, and how big of a difference are we talking here?
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Post by esgaladar on Aug 6, 2016 12:49:36 GMT
Ofc materials of different grade have not the same chance to be caught in lucky flip, the 9-card disposition is just an illusion. Wherever you tap, low-grade materials will be more likely to show up. This picture does not prove anything, I know, but look at this Spizzo is absolutly right. Nowhere it states that is 11% chance to get any of the flips. People might assume that because of the nine cards, but the reality is that whenever you flip the card there is a combination of probability, and the best material or picks have the lowest chance. As long as you progress flipping (and paying gems) the chances are greater... so if you are lucky enough to get three best flips before all nine flips than you stop Easy P.S. I do only 3 flips a day (15 gems, as a star player) and do get orange or purple sometimes ;-) but most of the time i get white stuff
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Post by Yuna on Aug 6, 2016 13:08:04 GMT
That's just not the case. I never flip more than 3, and I always refresh after 2 if I get a blue or higher. Yes, this assumes spending 5 gems for the 2nd flip.. even if you aren't doing that, you are going to get more than 7 whites in a week. I recommend even f2p doing the 5 gem flip, if you are serious about getting equipment. You should always do 2 flips because of the math. Refreshing costs 10 gems, flipping an extra flip costs 5. If you flip one card, that's 10 gems per card. If you flip 2, that's 7.5 gems per card.
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Post by myzteryahu on Aug 6, 2016 16:37:23 GMT
Don't forget lucky flip. In 20 days time, you are going to get minimum 3-4 purple mats, even with abysmal luck. That is a purple equipment all by itself (albeit, it might not be the equipment you want) No way, not for the F2P who doesn't spend any gems at all on lucky flip. My experience is that lucky flip is rigged so that you don't get the higher level materials on the 1st free flip. I've gotten a spark and a orange wing and 2* or 3* extra flip on my first flip
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Post by deckvillain on Aug 7, 2016 17:03:40 GMT
Did you guys know that you could gamble your blue into yellows? you have little over 11% of doing this.
Use a blue and a purple material to craft a purple or yellow lvl 1 equipment. Destroy the equipment afterwards to get the purple base item back. If you roll for a yellow, you can destroy the equipment to get a yellow base item.
11% chance is still better than the 16 exact copies you need to make a yellow according to my math
A F2P player can make 4 blues every 3 days. so realistically you could upgrade 1 purple to gold every week.
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Post by noony4096 on Aug 7, 2016 17:55:14 GMT
Although that's a neat idea (and I didn't know about it), it's unfortunately just slightly less efficient than simply turning the blue mats into purple and then using 2 purple mats to try and create one gold equipment, as has been discussed before.
A simple attempt to prove the above is that the % chance of making a gold equipment from 1 blue 1 purple matt each, is 11.82%. If we used the 4 blues to make a purple and used these two, we could have 48.76%. Since (11.82)*4 = 47.28% < 48.76% given by 2 purple, it looks slightly less efficient.
For a more complex proof to make sure, I used a binomial calculator which essentially can tell us, given a number of attempts (I used a starting amount of 20 blue matts) the chance of us creating a certain number of orange equipment. We have 20 chances to make a gold equipment with 1 blue one purple, and 5 using 2 purple.
Feeding this in, we get the results:
Using 5 purple we have a 79.66% of creating 2 or more gold equipment out of our 5 attempts. Using 20 blue, we have a 70.25% of creating 2 or more gold equipment out of our 20 attempts.
Lemme know if i did some maths wrong, very possible!
TL;DR So using blue results in slightly less orange equipment, and your better off upgrading the 4 blue into 1 purple and then trying, but was an interesting idea nonetheless!
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Post by asgarth1980 on Aug 8, 2016 4:41:18 GMT
To answer the thread question... Be like my char... 42% but have 13 purple and 1 orange through level 5 crafting
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Post by xathrax on Aug 8, 2016 6:12:28 GMT
Do not upgrade. I cannot stress this enough. Upgrading is bad. Having that 10% bonus to something is NOT good and is not worth the effort.Instead spend twice the time and attempt to craft normally.
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Post by japoon on Aug 8, 2016 11:11:43 GMT
To answer the thread question... Be like my char... 42% but have 13 purple and 1 orange through level 5 crafting IGG told us it is 42% but please don't believe. The "real" percentage should be around 18-25%. The situation like drawing a 5* material from the lucky flip. I draw another 2k without a single 5* materials. I think the percentage is around 0.1-0.2% for getting 5* in the first 2 draws, instead of 11%
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Post by kahl on Aug 8, 2016 12:08:47 GMT
To answer the thread question... Be like my char... 42% but have 13 purple and 1 orange through level 5 crafting IGG told us it is 42% but please don't believe. The "real" percentage should be around 18-25%. The situation like drawing a 5* material from the lucky flip. I draw another 2k without a single 5* materials. I think the percentage is around 0.1-0.2% for getting 5* in the first 2 draws, instead of 11% For the first time, I agree with Japoon. Especially in that Lucky Flip. They said increased the chance but still stupid RNG.
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2017 14:32:52 GMT
I'm very interested in this thread because I'm a f2p guy and I have all my equipment level 5 up to purple through leveling in 6 months (one gold). So cause the stats of purple are 10%, I'm very interested knowing the minimum material required to have a level 5 purple guaranteed (to improve my actual stats with a secondary attributes). No really important the percentage of orange, just 0% blue quality. Anyway the 5th slot is the previous purple equipment (so i hope it's possible). I don't have enough high quality materials to check guys ^^
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Post by BlackTone on May 25, 2017 15:44:31 GMT
Cheapest method to craft Lvl 5 purp equip: 1 gold material + 1 purple material + 1 blue material + 1 green material + Lvl 3 gold equip gives you 99.14% purple chance, 0.86% gold.
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Post by JayBase on Jun 15, 2017 0:54:17 GMT
Actually the cheapest is: 1 gold material + 1 purple material + 1 blue material + 1 white material + Lvl 3 gold equip gives you 99.97% purple chance, 0.03% gold.
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Post by barleylime on Jun 15, 2017 3:05:21 GMT
Cheapest method to craft Lvl 5 purp equip: 1 gold material + 1 purple material + 1 blue material + 1 green material + Lvl 3 gold equip gives you 99.14% purple chance, 0.86% gold. Actually the cheapest is: 1 gold material + 1 purple material + 1 blue material + 1 white material + Lvl 3 gold equip gives you 99.97% purple chance, 0.03% gold. What's the difference between a Level 3 gold equipment and a Level 5 gold equipment? It takes the same amount of materials to craft a Level 3 gold equipment and a Level 5 gold equipment, correct? To craft a Level 3 gold equipment, I need to make 256 Level 3 white equipment and upgrade them. To craft a Level 5 gold equipment, I need to make 256 Level 5 white equipment and upgrade them. It seems the same to me, so why say Level 3 is cheaper to make?
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