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Post by Somar [BK] on May 5, 2015 13:03:02 GMT
Just for fun sake, let's see what comes out of this.
I'll list 1 crit for faction in the poll + 1 or 2 runner-up's in the thread. Feel free to critic the choices in the comments and perhaps i can change the poll if anyone comes with valid points regarding a crit that might be worse than those listed.
Humans 1st choice - Cleric: Useless is the word that first comes to mind when i think of this guy, the only thing of worth is the Humanity skill to meld away in some other cards. Runner-up - Chimera: Its a really letdown card, but it's still miles better than cleric as it can be usefull in a few limited situations
Faen 1st choice - Pale Dragon - If u compare it to other factions choices in this poll this card is probably not that bad, but when compared with other faen 4*, it's really one of the worst. Runner-up's - Faen Rampager and Faen Mesmer: Both not great, but not that bad either.
Neander 1st choice - Mammoth Rider: This one gets my vote for most useless card in game, the reataliate and rip just dont do enough to be any good and dont even get me started on this guys block, its just embarassing to say the least. Runner-up's - Howling King and Neamazon: Also pretty useless cards, but at least there's some potential in some speciffic uses.
Mortti 1st choice - Pit Priest: I believe this one is undisputed as the worst mortii 4* card, the only reason i'll add a runner-up here is because i did it in the other factions. Runer-up's - Pit Lord: Honestly this guy is not bad, but i will put him here because all other mortii crits are solid choices.
Vote away
My choices are Mammoth Rider followed closely by Cleric
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Post by dbreezy✪NFS on May 5, 2015 14:25:39 GMT
I picked cleric just because at least pit priest can catch things on fire to add a little damage and it can hit some lucky paralyzes. That said, IGG PLEASE STOP GIVING THEM TO ME! I have like....9 and it's too bad to waste resources melding
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Post by Pyron on May 5, 2015 15:29:38 GMT
I guess what most of the bad cards have in common (including 5*) is Reflect which doesn't do much as a counter to magic and isn't synergistic with anything else.
Cleric is pretty crap, it's worse than the other healer 3*, but at least it heal your cards. Pale Dragon is boring, but at least it can deal some damage against neanders and buff your team. Pit Priest and Mammoth Rider have only good stats, but their skill selection is pitiful and non-synergistic. Pit Priest is somewhat ok melded, but who would spend any resource to make an ok card? Mammoth Rider is just a lost cause.
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Post by gatecrasher✪NFS on May 5, 2015 15:40:19 GMT
I vote mammoth rider. Why? I have 7 of them and cannot findit worth the gold or energy to farm materials to meld jack taco to that card lol.
BTW I disagree on pale dragon. He he buffs other faen and good against neanders. The other two way worse. One delay is a joke, and a card that slowly kills itself lol.
Pit priestess has some crappy skills but some great damage and HP and heals, with FA is a decent tank, and with sneak meld hits pretty hard.
Mammoth rider and cleric cannot even be improved with melds LOL
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Post by Somar [BK] on May 5, 2015 15:51:49 GMT
I vote mammoth rider. Why? I have 7 of them and cannot findit worth the gold or energy to farm materials to meld jack taco to that card lol. BTW I disagree on pale dragon. He he buffs other faen and good against neanders. The other two way worse. One delay is a joke, and a card that slowly kills itself lol. Pit priestess has some crappy skills but some great damage and HP and heals, with FA is a decent tank, and with sneak meld hits pretty hard. Mammoth rider and cleric cannot even be improved with melds LOL the only reason i rank pale dragon bellow mesmer and rampager is that if u meld frost armour on both of them they can become really usefull, specially mesmer coupled with some faen HP boosts, pale dragon lacks in comparison IMO and it's only usefull against neander and even so theres lots of better options to go for but he's definitly ok when compared to mammoth or cleric block 2 on a 4* just makes me laugh, blocking a whole 50 dmg is really usefull, even pikeman has block 4
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Post by gatecrasher✪NFS on May 5, 2015 15:54:45 GMT
I vote mammoth rider. Why? I have 7 of them and cannot findit worth the gold or energy to farm materials to meld jack taco to that card lol. BTW I disagree on pale dragon. He he buffs other faen and good against neanders. The other two way worse. One delay is a joke, and a card that slowly kills itself lol. Pit priestess has some crappy skills but some great damage and HP and heals, with FA is a decent tank, and with sneak meld hits pretty hard. Mammoth rider and cleric cannot even be improved with melds LOL the only reason i rank pale dragon bellow mesmer and rampager is that if u meld frost armour on both of them they can become really usefull, specially mesmer coupled with some faen HP boosts, pale dragon lacks in comparison IMO and it's only usefull against neander and even so theres lots of better options to go for but he's definitly ok when compared to mammoth or cleric block 2 on a 4* just makes me laugh, blocking a whole 50 dmg is really usefull, even pikeman has block 4 i am starting to see a pattern to the cards i get from coupon draws. 7 mammoth riders, 5 mean raptors, 4 Newham n, 5 pale dragons....you seeing a theme here? LMAO
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Post by Somar [BK] on May 5, 2015 16:01:43 GMT
I`ve already killed my pit priests, mammoths and howling kings for xp, i havent done it yet to cleric because humanity might come in hand to meld some day. The others mentioned i`m keeping for now, but they might be heading the same path eventually.
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Post by andypk on May 5, 2015 17:11:10 GMT
Pit Priest is the only 4* creature card I've used for enhancement fodder so far. I was back and forth with cleric. But chose to try and put a FA on him instead. Reasoning is I have a lot of sweeping blow in my evolved human creatures, so I figured the humanity would pay off enough to meld it.
Edit. It's not a big surprise that a lot of the weaker creatures in the game have Reflect. It was initially a permanent spikey bits that they nerfed into oblivion.
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Post by gatecrasher✪NFS on May 5, 2015 17:30:55 GMT
Pit Priest is the only 4* creature card I've used for enhancement fodder so far. I was back and forth with cleric. But chose to try and put a FA on him instead. Reasoning is I have a lot of sweeping blow in my evolved human creatures, so I figured the humanity would pay off enough to meld it. Edit. It's not a big surprise that a lot of the weaker creatures in the game have Reflect. It was initially a permanent spikey bits that they nerfed into oblivion. i remember that, when when I first started playing flamebrave hit my priestess and flamebrave got mauled. I was thinking back then putting neander deck with 5 off facto n reflect critters and spikybits
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Post by Somar [BK] on May 5, 2015 17:43:17 GMT
Pit Priest is the only 4* creature card I've used for enhancement fodder so far. I was back and forth with cleric. But chose to try and put a FA on him instead. Reasoning is I have a lot of sweeping blow in my evolved human creatures, so I figured the humanity would pay off enough to meld it. Edit. It's not a big surprise that a lot of the weaker creatures in the game have Reflect. It was initially a permanent spikey bits that they nerfed into oblivion. i remember that, when when I first started playing flamebrave hit my priestess and flamebrave got mauled. I was thinking back then putting neander deck with 5 off facto n reflect critters and spikybits When i first started the game i remember quite well going against 2 x pale dragons in some dungeon on map 5 i belive it was, i was cruising through dungeons up until then with my shiny flame brave nucking everything to shreds and then all of the sudden, bang, those dragons just kill off my whole the deck out of nowhere, by the time i gor my first pale dragon they had already nerfed the skill which made so mad
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Post by andypk on May 5, 2015 19:09:39 GMT
You can just look at the list of creatures with reflect and generate a underpowered creature list:
Haunted Idol (2) Dark Gargoyle (2) Pious Warden (3) Empire Guard (3) Royal Griffin (3) Zombie King (3) Grand Mage (4) Juggernaut (4) Moon Walker (4) Howling King (4) Protector (4) Ghostly Judge (5) Pit Priest (5) Moon Guardian (6) Pale Dragon (6) Border Guard (6) Night Terror (6) Ares (7) Terror Dragon (8)
IMO, I think they should have limited it to creature and adjacent creatures and it would have been fine. Basically making it a magic retaliate. I
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Post by kakola on May 5, 2015 19:13:37 GMT
My vote goes for cleric just because mammoth has great base stats so he can take in lots of magic damage and activate spiky bits. Priest has blaze which is ok. Cleric on the other hand... sigh I actually think pit lord is decent card and doesnt deserve to be mentioned in this thread. With FA meld he can stay in play for quite some time. He also boosts other Mortii HP.
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Post by Somar [BK] on May 5, 2015 19:26:44 GMT
You can just look at the list of creatures with reflect and generate a underpowered creature list: Haunted Idol (2) Dark Gargoyle (2) Pious Warden (3) Empire Guard (3) Royal Griffin (3) Zombie King (3) Grand Mage (4) Juggernaut (4) Moon Walker (4) Howling King (4) Protector (4) Ghostly Judge (5) Pit Priest (5) Moon Guardian (6) Pale Dragon (6) Border Guard (6) Night Terror (6) Ares (7) Terror Dragon (8) IMO, I think they should have limited it to creature and adjacent creatures and it would have been fine. Basically making it a magic retaliate. I either that or increase the % reduced/reflect, that way even if only hit the attacker at least it would deal decent dmg + tank more but if retaliate hits adjacent crits reflect could do the same probably the skill was designed to act like spiky bits and deal dmg to everyone, so the other skills on those crits were kept at low lv to balance things out when they realized it was OP they nerfed it but forgot to adjust things to still make those crits usefull
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Post by Borbland✪NFS on May 5, 2015 20:24:39 GMT
I don't think pale dragon and pit preist are that bad.
Pit Priest can become a nice tank with Frost armor + Reflect + Regeneration. She's not perfect, but still not a bad tank.
Pale dragon is good against Neanders, and has a good Sprite Link, reflect isn't too bad either.
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Post by Somar [BK] on May 5, 2015 20:34:49 GMT
I don't think pale dragon and pit preist are that bad. Pit Priest can become a nice tank with Frost armor + Reflect + Regeneration. She's not perfect, but still not a bad tank. Pale dragon is good against Neanders, and has a good Sprite Link, reflect isn't too bad either. to be fair anyting melded with FA is usable in the game, its just that with so many options its a waste to put it on a pit priest i do agree that pale dragon is not actually that bad, the howling king is far worse, but the idea was to put a crit from each faction and for faen its one of the worst, but mesmer and rampager are not that far ahead and could very well be options
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Post by Borbland✪NFS on May 6, 2015 7:42:24 GMT
I personnaly like Mesmer, her only problem s the fact she's really slow, else she deals some good damage.
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Post by Sytry on May 6, 2015 10:57:22 GMT
Somebody tell IGG to change Reflect.
"Arcane Overload" - When this creature receives magic damage, deal 10 + (6 / lvl) % Direct Dmg to the caster and creatures adjacent to it.
Would make Reflect creatures more viable and give more strategy in creature placement.
And make Bullseye and Unbound 1 skill, and name it "Furious".
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Post by dbreezy✪NFS on May 6, 2015 17:18:11 GMT
Would certainly make all those abilities insanely more viable.
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Post by DianaTroy [βκ] on May 7, 2015 1:58:49 GMT
I voted Mammoth Rider.
I have a small argument for Pale Dragon. I run a Bowmaster with 4 Satyr Sentry and 6 Pale Dragon in Gauntlet/Guild Battles and it's very good at winning.
When each Pale Dragon has over 1500 ATK & HP, it's a deadly brute force deck.
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