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Post by maxp83 on May 14, 2015 11:22:16 GMT
the new offer is offensive 12 5xdraw for a event card is outragous and why didnt it start at same time as event i bet some have done it already how must they feel when i started this game i thought wow all the content was available for ftp was i wrong i see a trend in these games suck people in and then slowly start the money grab to be fair ive seen games much worse then this but still not impressed
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Post by Hitmus✪NFS on May 14, 2015 11:27:51 GMT
simply do not care about this shity promo which can empty your wallet. Have fun and simply treat it as not for you.
i have 100% f2p account which is 1 of mine 3 and and it has best cards and reach 11-9 map:)
so simply i decided that spending monay in this game has no sense at all untill you want spend thousends.
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Post by pueblo✪NFS on May 14, 2015 16:07:32 GMT
simply do not care about this shity promo which can empty your wallet. Have fun and simply treat it as not for you. i have 100% f2p account which is 1 of mine 3 and and it has best cards and reach 11-9 map:) so simply i decided that spending monay in this game has no sense at all untill you want spend thousends. I think's exactly the same, spending 20, 50 or even 100 euros it's pratically useless, you should really spend a huge amount of cash in order to have something cool, totally not worth to spend.
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Post by DianaTroy [βκ] on May 14, 2015 16:14:44 GMT
simply do not care about this shity promo which can empty your wallet. Have fun and simply treat it as not for you. i have 100% f2p account which is 1 of mine 3 and and it has best cards and reach 11-9 map:) so simply i decided that spending monay in this game has no sense at all untill you want spend thousends. I think's exactly the same, spending 20, 50 or even 100 euros it's pratically useless, you should really spend a huge amount of cash in order to have something cool, totally not worth to spend. Yup, the odds haven't changed from before.
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Post by maxp83 on May 14, 2015 16:57:43 GMT
I'd agree except to some extent ultima chest I've done the 10 twice and got 5 5* the problem is now all I want is fafnir hippo or gm
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Post by ℜ★Xega on May 14, 2015 17:52:57 GMT
the new offer is offensive 12 5xdraw for a event card is outragous and why didnt it start at same time as event i bet some have done it already how must they feel when i started this game i thought wow all the content was available for ftp was i wrong i see a trend in these games suck people in and then slowly start the money grab to be fair ive seen games much worse then this but still not impressed Wow, a business is trying to make money... I'm shocked.
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Post by ÐARҞNESS on May 14, 2015 18:22:08 GMT
the new offer is offensive 12 5xdraw for a event card is outragous and why didnt it start at same time as event i bet some have done it already how must they feel when i started this game i thought wow all the content was available for ftp was i wrong i see a trend in these games suck people in and then slowly start the money grab to be fair ive seen games much worse then this but still not impressed Wow, a business is trying to make money... I'm shocked. "Trying to make money" "Business"
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Post by maxp83 on May 14, 2015 21:32:26 GMT
Many businesses run a good service at a reasonable price
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Post by fani on May 14, 2015 21:46:50 GMT
Same like sky Arena. But honestly: Without These guys, whose 'waste' their Money for this game, IGG wouldn't spend a split second for this game, because they don't make any Profit.
Maybe STAR, but nothing more. I bought 750 gems because of the 20 coupons you will get, when you buy 700 gems. Results of the 20 coupons: Howling King Was it worth to waste 8€ (or $10)? Everyone can answer this question for himself.
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Post by gatecrasher✪NFS on May 15, 2015 15:49:15 GMT
I think the thing that pisses ppl off about this game and others is the randomness. I know ppl who have dropped 100 bucks and barely have anything to show for it. Other ppl though have dropped a 100 bucks and end up with 5-5*s. The only way to guarantee any kind of roi is spend redonkulous amounts. Way to random.
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Post by maxp83 on May 15, 2015 18:30:18 GMT
It's a gamble it should be sold and regulated as gambling
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Post by gatecrasher✪NFS on May 17, 2015 13:35:59 GMT
It's a gamble it should be sold and regulated as gambling totàlly disagree. While i do think their RNG and %'s are excessively conservative, and I feel even a small increase in players favor would increase sales for them, i cannot in my wildest imaginings say "regulate" this game. Treat it like gambling? That's ridiculous, it is a product that took investment to make tons of man hours and employees and artists. Obviously it is a good product because we are discussing some peoples wanting more of it at a more reasonable rate. To regulate it like gambling you'd have to prove igg is influencing you, pressuring you in some way to spend, and not putting forth a viable product. None of which is remotely true or provable. The only folks who would have a mildly legitimate complaint would be the big money spenders with buyers remorse. Even then it could be argued, that as long as they are an adult of legal age, their lack of impulse control is their issue not igg's.
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Post by DianaTroy [βκ] on May 17, 2015 16:12:30 GMT
To regulate it like gambling you'd have to prove igg is influencing you, pressuring you in some way to spend, and not putting forth a viable product. They actually hit all 3 points Influencing? They keep releasing events that you have to spend Gems to win at. Pressuring? They have a new Booster event almost every day Not a viable product? 70% of their artwork is stolen. All their math is not programmed properly and they flat out lie to us in card descriptions and lie to us when we try to contact them.
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Post by vamp on May 17, 2015 16:16:30 GMT
It's a gamble it should be sold and regulated as gambling totàlly disagree. While i do think their RNG and %'s are excessively conservative, and I feel even a small increase in players favor would increase sales for them, i cannot in my wildest imaginings say "regulate" this game. Treat it like gambling? That's ridiculous, it is a product that took investment to make tons of man hours and employees and artists. Obviously it is a good product because we are discussing some peoples wanting more of it at a more reasonable rate. To regulate it like gambling you'd have to prove igg is influencing you, pressuring you in some way to spend, and not putting forth a viable product. None of which is remotely true or provable. The only folks who would have a mildly legitimate complaint would be the big money spenders with buyers remorse. Even then it could be argued, that as long as they are an adult of legal age, their lack of impulse control is their issue not igg's. 1. Online casinos also employ programmers, visual designers etc. None of which makes them unsusceptible to regulation under gambling laws. 2. Where did your list of criteria to decide whether or not something should be classed as gambling come from? An online casino (I'd argue) also does not fulfill the list you provided (I don't feel influenced, pressured etc.) 3. I think they should be required to publish drop rates on boosters etc and perhaps even have independent verification that the actual drop rates are as claimed. So any buyer can make a fair and informed decision.
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Post by bigstab [NFS] on May 17, 2015 17:48:02 GMT
totàlly disagree. While i do think their RNG and %'s are excessively conservative, and I feel even a small increase in players favor would increase sales for them, i cannot in my wildest imaginings say "regulate" this game. Treat it like gambling? That's ridiculous, it is a product that took investment to make tons of man hours and employees and artists. Obviously it is a good product because we are discussing some peoples wanting more of it at a more reasonable rate. To regulate it like gambling you'd have to prove igg is influencing you, pressuring you in some way to spend, and not putting forth a viable product. None of which is remotely true or provable. The only folks who would have a mildly legitimate complaint would be the big money spenders with buyers remorse. Even then it could be argued, that as long as they are an adult of legal age, their lack of impulse control is their issue not igg's. 1. Online casinos also employ programmers, visual designers etc. None of which makes them unsusceptible to regulation under gambling laws. 2. Where did your list of criteria to decide whether or not something should be classed as gambling come from? An online casino (I'd argue) also does not fulfill the list you provided (I don't feel influenced, pressured etc.) 3. I think they should be required to publish drop rates on boosters etc and perhaps even have independent verification that the actual drop rates are as claimed. So any buyer can make a fair and informed decision. if you do that they will just shut down, repackage and start again
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Post by gatecrasher✪NFS on May 17, 2015 18:03:39 GMT
Text on a screen is influencing you or anyone else to spend copious amounts of money? If so you not igg are responsible. They are not plying you with drinks, offering comped rooms in a high pressure inviorment to keep in a chair gambling. The device is in your hands and can be shut down at any time. I think you are completely blaming them for what should be seen as a lack of personal and fiscal responsibility.
If you think online casinos are regulated your sorely mistaken. 99f of them are over seas. Sure states that allow gambling and have online casinos are. That's about 1 in 50 probably of the ones online.
There is a reason there are buyers remorse laws, where a salesman/woman is pressuring you. Buying a car, telemarketers etc. That human influence simply isn't here.
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Post by DianaTroy [βκ] on May 17, 2015 18:09:30 GMT
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Post by vamp on May 17, 2015 21:18:41 GMT
1. Online casinos also employ programmers, visual designers etc. None of which makes them unsusceptible to regulation under gambling laws. 2. Where did your list of criteria to decide whether or not something should be classed as gambling come from? An online casino (I'd argue) also does not fulfill the list you provided (I don't feel influenced, pressured etc.) 3. I think they should be required to publish drop rates on boosters etc and perhaps even have independent verification that the actual drop rates are as claimed. So any buyer can make a fair and informed decision. if you do that they will just shut down, repackage and start again That only makes sense if dh is specifically targeted legally, I mean I think all games where you pay real money for a chance to win something ingame should be forced to publish droprates etc. Ie. any potential repackage would be covered under the same legislation. Out of interest, do you think that if droprates were indeed published they'd close down because they thought would buy anymore, or because actually nobody would buy anymore? I think when Diablo 3 came out there was discussion over real money auction house and gambling laws, pretty sure they had issues in some countries. And there you were guaranteed to get what you paid for! I found it difficult to research the actual law, but suspect if you bought boosters with cash directly then gambling laws would apply. Because it's converted to an intermediate currency (ie. gems) which does have other legitimate sources (albeit in small quantities) then it doesn't?
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Post by vamp on May 17, 2015 21:32:20 GMT
Text on a screen is influencing you or anyone else to spend copious amounts of money? If so you not igg are responsible. They are not plying you with drinks, offering comped rooms in a high pressure inviorment to keep in a chair gambling. The device is in your hands and can be shut down at any time. I think you are completely blaming them for what should be seen as a lack of personal and fiscal responsibility. If you think online casinos are regulated your sorely mistaken. 99f of them are over seas. Sure states that allow gambling and have online casinos are. That's about 1 in 50 probably of the ones online. There is a reason there are buyers remorse laws, where a salesman/woman is pressuring you. Buying a car, telemarketers etc. That human influence simply isn't here. 1. I'm not suggesting igg is covered by laws by which it's currently not abiding, just that I think such laws should exist, as indeed they should (and don't currently) for most online casinos. 2. Buyers remorse laws aren't really related to human influence. Eg. for (professional) sellers on ebay, you can return goods with a certain period, where no human influence has been exerted. Actually, I don't know the reason for buyers' remorse laws ^^ it seems to be treating consumers as not personally and fiscally responsible individuals, to steal your turn of phrase.
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Post by DianaTroy [βκ] on May 17, 2015 21:32:40 GMT
vamp Diablo 3 did restructuring with their real-money aspects precisely for this. More and more countries are also regulating Gold Farming, so companies have to rethink their strategies and adjust.
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Post by DianaTroy [βκ] on May 17, 2015 21:34:30 GMT
Also vamp, IGG is based, I think, in Thailand or somewhere near there. No video game related laws in that region.
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Post by vamp on May 17, 2015 21:46:53 GMT
Also vamp, IGG is based, I think, in Thailand or somewhere near there. No video game related laws in that region. Well the original server was the Taiwan server, where both online and offline gambling is illegal, but I don't know where the developers are based. igg.com is hosted in CA ^^ but I don't know if the actual game server is hosted there too without some packet sniffing.
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Post by maxp83 on May 18, 2015 16:41:57 GMT
Guys you've far exceeded my hopes for this topic thanks I do stick by my opinion that this is basically gambling when i first started playing I got the impression there was no money event no exclusive cards all obtainable for free this sky arena tells you alot about the cash cow they trying to turn this into. My main issue with this is that you don't get a good balance in the player base you sit at either end of the spectrum I much prefer the impression I got of the this game befor saying that with smart play alot can be done for free unfortunately not all can be smart and fight the temptation of a quick fix
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Post by maxp83 on May 20, 2015 10:51:17 GMT
Lol just last night I watched the freemium southpark episode completely relevant so funny so true go watch
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Post by vamp on May 20, 2015 11:10:53 GMT
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