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Post by Eladion on May 23, 2015 14:13:11 GMT
Hello, I've finally accumulated enough resources to evolve my first Faen. My main decks are human and Mortii so till now I had no reason to evolve a Faen. This is the reason that I'm looking for an all-purpose faen, that will fit in any deck, including guild maps. Would you share your experience with evolving Naga mistress ? I only have one copy so It'll be a long process to meld something good on her. What will be better - another lock-down skill or immunity 9 ?
Other Faen I have multiple copies of are Light brave (but I only have one Thalassa atm so can't meld recycle on him), Flame brave, Pale dragon and Centaur chief. Would any of those be a better option for my first Faen evolve ?
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Post by SoaponaRope [BK] on May 23, 2015 16:20:44 GMT
There's a LOT of factors to consider, and also you might want to just sit on the materials (they aren't going anywhere). It also might make sense to wait until the next Double Expertise day which is probably a full month from today. The following is just my suggestions, I'm sure there are other great ideas for melds for these cards. Naga Mistress - ExplorableNaga Mistress is a powerful Lock-down support creature for any deck, but she really shines in a Faen Deck with multiple Lock-downs. The idea is that with full (or near-full) delays on the enemy creatures, fragile creatures with a bit of support can last longer and completely control the board. In a deck truly focused on Lock-down I would recommend adding: - Frostbite
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If you're wanting to use Naga as a support in a mixed deck, especially one that does not have the capabilities to Lock-down the entire enemy team, then you'll need to enhance her survivability. In this case, I would certainly go with Immunity, and if you don't want to use SQ's Immunity 9 up on her, Immunity 7 is farmable off of Horned Beast. Horned Beast - Explorable
Horned Beast makes a good carrier of non-physical skill that you're relying on activating multiple times. While he has very low HP, his Dodge and Immunity skills help to keep him alive and he ends up being able to spam some great abilities. He also definitely fits the bill as a Cross-Faction card, with his Mass Heal working on all creature types. You'll generally want to play him further right or in front of a low ATK creature. Common options for melding him include: Light BraveLight Brave is a good carrier of Recycle or Single-Use abilities, basically because of his Rebirth ability. A few months ago, we were seeing tons and tons of players using Light Braves and Royal Dragons as carriers because of Rebirth / Stoneskin respectively, but in reality there are better carriers for high-end skills available. In the end, it really depends which cards you have enough copies of to meld the skill you need. If you don't have a ton of Light Braves laying around right now, I wouldn't consider it. Flame Brave
I personally haven't gotten around to this yet, but I am very interested in melding Incinerate 8 onto this card. Since she is already balls-to-the-walls Magic Damage, you're going to be able to tell right away whether or not Magic Damage is going to work, and if there are holes in the enemy defense this card will just tear up. I wouldn't focus on Pale Dragon, Centaur Chief or Arrow Brave unless you have a specific need. You can achieve absolutely massive physical damage to Neander decks which can be helpful in Map 8 and some of the very later maps, but unless you're actually running into trouble then it's not worth the time and effort for these specialized cards. Honorable MentionFrost Rager
She makes a great carrier of Bless for Guild maps if that is still an issue for you. Depending on what map your on in Explorer's Gate, she can help you get through Map 7 and 8 when equipped with retaliate. Simply because of how easy, quick and cheap it is to farm and meld her, she can be a great help in early game.
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Post by Eladion on May 23, 2015 17:27:55 GMT
Thank you for your detailed answer ! I'm on map 10-5 right now and already have an evolved frost rager. Since it wasn't hard at all to collect those materials, I might take your advice and evolve my flame brave and wait till I have some more nagas before I evolve her.
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Post by maxp83 on May 23, 2015 18:05:48 GMT
I've been thinking delay 2 on my Naga
On a side note after reading very detailed post I thought I'd mention Flame brave with sneak should work nicely
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Post by DianaTroy [βκ] on May 23, 2015 18:24:11 GMT
If I farm Naga Mistress for a Meld I think my number one choice would be Frost Armor.
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Post by Eladion on May 23, 2015 19:49:47 GMT
If I farm Naga Mistress for a Meld I think my number one choice would be Frost Armor. For me, her main purpose would be preventing the enemy from locking down my toons. So melding her with immunity would help her stay active and lock the enemy's freezers down.
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Post by SoaponaRope [BK] on May 23, 2015 20:03:52 GMT
If I farm Naga Mistress for a Meld I think my number one choice would be Frost Armor. Can't ever go wrong with FA but if it was me I would take the Immunity unless she's in a deck with no tanks. She's got her 2 lock downs and then a Mass Heal, so her getting locked down is more of a threat than her getting 1-shotted in my opinion. Then again, if she's up against a ton of creatures immune to lock-down themselves, she's gonna fall pretty fast unless she's in a Faen Deck. She is truly an amazing fit in a Faen deck, just unbelievably good with something like Predator.
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Post by DianaTroy [βκ] on May 23, 2015 20:22:13 GMT
If I farm Naga Mistress for a Meld I think my number one choice would be Frost Armor. Can't ever go wrong with FA but if it was me I would take the Immunity unless she's in a deck with no tanks. She's got her 2 lock downs and then a Mass Heal, so her getting locked down is more of a threat than her getting 1-shotted in my opinion. Then again, if she's up against a ton of creatures immune to lock-down themselves, she's gonna fall pretty fast unless she's in a Faen Deck. She is truly an amazing fit in a Faen deck, just unbelievably good with something like Predator. Faen kind of lack tanks so a FA Naga Mistress would fit right in.
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Post by thundergod on May 24, 2015 0:38:02 GMT
Outside of guild maps(though I would still choose fa there as well), I would go with frost armor almost every single time.
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Post by ℜ★Xega on May 24, 2015 6:26:51 GMT
Nah guys, hobble 2 naga mistress... lockdown specialist
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Post by fani on May 24, 2015 9:16:42 GMT
Pyre 8 from Flame Brave? I already own 2 of these at lv 10 and 2 at lv 0. I'm not sure whether I evolve a Flame Brave.
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Post by SoaponaRope [BK] on May 24, 2015 14:43:57 GMT
Nah guys, hobble 2 naga mistress... lockdown specialist Dude are you crazy?! Gonna waste a Hobble on a Naga Mistress?? I save my Hobbles for my Nidhoggs!!
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Post by ℜ★Xega on May 24, 2015 23:12:44 GMT
Nah guys, hobble 2 naga mistress... lockdown specialist Dude are you crazy?! Gonna waste a Hobble on a Naga Mistress?? I save my Hobbles for my Nidhoggs!! I feel you man. I sacrificed 12 night terrors to get a 2nd thalassa. Big mistake, I could have had 12 hobble 2 melds instead.
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Post by fant on Jun 13, 2015 5:42:49 GMT
Mates, Iboriginslly want to meld fa3 on it, and use it for guidemap. But now struggling after the rune system. I get the ice rune, so if I meld frostbite on it, all 3 skills can share the same ruin, which add 90% damage to all 3 skills. So we will have magic damage, Icearrow: 266 Tempest: 760(assuming 4 enemies) Frostbite: 570 And lockdown: 40% for one creature 35% for three 30% for all This looks quite promising? Alternatively, FA3 is also very good. If I can have 2-3 melded with FA3, together with massheal, this can form a very solid frontline as well. Especially fae doesnt have very good tanks. So appreciate for your thoughs
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Post by fani on Jun 13, 2015 20:27:57 GMT
Today I melded FA3 on Naga.
Don't know, whether good or not.
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Post by Sephiroth [BK] on Jun 14, 2015 3:36:39 GMT
Mates, Iboriginslly want to meld fa3 on it, and use it for guidemap. But now struggling after the rune system. I get the ice rune, so if I meld frostbite on it, all 3 skills can share the same ruin, which add 90% damage to all 3 skills. So we will have magic damage, Icearrow: 266 Tempest: 760(assuming 4 enemies) Frostbite: 570 And lockdown: 40% for one creature 35% for three 30% for all This looks quite promising? Alternatively, FA3 is also very good. If I can have 2-3 melded with FA3, together with massheal, this can form a very solid frontline as well. Especially fae doesnt have very good tanks. So appreciate for your thoughs Hey The tune doesn't work like that. If the crea to re is already frozen THEN the the attack will apply it's bonus. So unless you have another critter or hero with a ice move in the deck then her first attack can't do extra damage. Would be sweet if it went Ice arrow>frostbite>tempest That would really make the most of the rune. However, stick a few ice runed critters in your deck and let them stack together. Hope that makes sense.
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Post by fant on Jun 14, 2015 4:00:33 GMT
Oh many thanos mates. Lucky I havent done it yet I guess I will go for FA as well. For biw, I have upgraded a couple of them to lv10, hope they can be useful in some situations (when enemy no titania)
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Post by Sephiroth [BK] on Jun 14, 2015 4:07:02 GMT
Oh many thanos mates. Lucky I havent done it yet I guess I will go for FA as well. For biw, I have upgraded a couple of them to lv10, hope they can be useful in some situations (when enemy no titania) You're welcome FYI - I just melded frostbite 5 to a naga yesterday. Should work well in my lockdown deck. I'd maybe run one more to take full advantage of their ice rune but 2 would be max for me. My other options were FA or immunity 7.
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