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Post by ahriman on Mar 5, 2015 13:26:07 GMT
Do you think there will ever be a 5-star creature evolve/meld? If this game eventually allows for 5-star creature evolve and meld, how will it not be broken? Let's take a look at an example... Mimir's tree. Mimir's Tree Battleblow 6(not a big deal...) Block 8 (Blocks 200 physical damage. uh oh...) Immunity 8(80% protection from magic... holy sh@%) Now... lets put a frost armor on him He now becomes IMMUNE TO PHYSICAL DAMAGE due to block8 + frost armor (unless the enemy has bulls eye), AND he is already immune to 80% if all spells thrown at him. On top of that, he belongs to the faction that excels at healing (Faen). So even if you do get some damage on him, he will probably be fully healed the next turn by his crew. Ladies and gentlemen, meet the ultimate tank. This is just one example of what melding a 5-star card would mean to the game. So two questions for you. 1) Can you guys think of some fun/cheesey 5-star melds? 2) If 5-star melding comes into play, should they put restrictions that prevent uber cheese? EDIT: Turns out my Mimir's Tree case does not work due to the order of skills being fired. Still, it would be fun to find some other horribly great combinations of melding.
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Post by andypk on Mar 5, 2015 14:58:10 GMT
Do you think there will ever be a 5-star creature evolve/meld? If this game eventually allows for 5-star creature evolve and meld, how will it not be broken? Let's take a look at an example... Mimir's tree. Mimir's Tree Battleblow 6(not a big deal...) Block 8 (Blocks 200 physical damage. uh oh...) Immunity 8(80% protection from magic... holy sh@%) Now... lets put a frost armor on him He now becomes IMMUNE TO PHYSICAL DAMAGE due to block8 + frost armor (unless the enemy has bulls eye), AND he is already immune to 80% if all spells thrown at him. On top of that, he belongs to the faction that excels at healing (Faen). So even if you do get some damage on him, he will probably be fully healed the next turn by his crew. Ladies and gentlemen, meet the ultimate tank. This is just one example of what melding a 5-star card would mean to the game. So two questions for you. 1) Can you guys think of some fun/cheesey 5-star melds? 2) If 5-star melding comes into play, should they put restrictions that prevent uber cheese? The skills go in order from top to bottom. So frost armor happens second not first and basically makes the block skill useless as the frost armor would limit most attacks more than the block does.
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Post by ahriman on Mar 5, 2015 15:03:38 GMT
I did not know that! Well there goes my theory on Mimir's Tree.
That still does not mean there are not some terribly good meld possibilities, or that there is a danger of "breaking the system".
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Post by andypk on Mar 5, 2015 15:54:18 GMT
There are some awesome melds, no doubt. But nothing that can't be beat. Direct damage says hi. If you want to make me hate your tree put SAP on it. Or some AOE magic. It's already a fantastic tank. It's biggest weakness right now is I can drop a Frost Rager on the other side and ignore it. Something that makes me have to concentrate on it or lose. Or how about Recycle. Guaranteed that will fire at least twice and likely north of 4 times. You have recycle on a tree and you now have a card that is devastating.
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Post by Somar [BK] on Mar 5, 2015 16:09:55 GMT
life sap on a fafnir would be awesome.
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Post by jacobhunterx on Mar 5, 2015 20:09:03 GMT
Recycle on Fafnir, frost armor on tidal siren boy would that be annoying as hell.rebirth on hippo. Just a few I could think of
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Post by CalvinsTate on Mar 6, 2015 3:18:14 GMT
It doesn't matter what order block or frost armor are in, still works. For example royal knight with frost armor 3 added on will only take 5 physical damage. This has been tested as of today and works fine. Meaning a mirmirs tree would be immune to physical damage with frost armor, the only prob with melding is that you will probably need about 6-8 mirmirs to be successful.
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Post by jacobhunterx on Mar 6, 2015 4:57:07 GMT
It doesn't matter what order block or frost armor are in, still works. For example royal knight with frost armor 3 added on will only take 5 physical damage. This has been tested as of today and works fine. Meaning a mirmirs tree would be immune to physical damage with frost armor, the only prob with melding is that you will probably need about 6-8 mirmirs to be successful. Calvin I'm glad to see you made it here
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Post by asgarth1980 on Mar 6, 2015 14:42:38 GMT
Announcement seems to singnet 5star melding soon.... F2P players will be further soon the pecking order..... Hardly get any 5star... Let alone multiples for melding......
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Post by ahriman on Mar 6, 2015 15:04:17 GMT
Announcement seems to singnet 5star melding soon.... F2P players will be further soon the pecking order..... Hardly get any 5star... Let alone multiples for melding...... Yea melding will be very difficult with how rare they are. However, some cards will get a huge boost to max HP/Attk stats. For example, Terror Dragon will become insanely strong with the stat boost alone.
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Post by Somar [BK] on Mar 6, 2015 15:18:43 GMT
Announcement seems to singnet 5star melding soon.... F2P players will be further soon the pecking order..... Hardly get any 5star... Let alone multiples for melding...... Yea melding will be very difficult with how rare they are. However, some cards will get a huge boost to max HP/Attk stats. For example, Terror Dragon will become insanely strong with the stat boost alone. True, but with the HP increase, is main skill becomes less usefull, more hp less chances for warlust to proc
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Post by ahriman on Mar 6, 2015 18:15:00 GMT
Yea melding will be very difficult with how rare they are. However, some cards will get a huge boost to max HP/Attk stats. For example, Terror Dragon will become insanely strong with the stat boost alone. True, but with the HP increase, is main skill becomes less usefull, more hp less chances for warlust to proc It's initial HP is already high. I mostly place it in front of a venom tyrant or a dahlia. Its also very good for those HP increasing Faen decks. Other than that, it will always be mosre useful as the game goes on, since as it takes damage, it's main skill will be proc'd more.
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Post by jacobhunterx on Mar 6, 2015 19:13:07 GMT
My god... All hope is gone... They are letting you do this... This game just got ruined... Jesus just imagine how horrible this will be... A great mystic with frost armor... All hope is gone
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Post by thundergod on Mar 6, 2015 20:00:22 GMT
Well, you probably still have to spend a few grand just to get the duplicates.
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Post by asgarth1980 on Mar 6, 2015 23:58:10 GMT
Well, you probably still have to spend a few grand just to get the duplicates. not necessary we can always duplicate the unseal creatures though it will take really long to get the cupid's atlest it is not very luck dependent....
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Post by asgarth1980 on Mar 7, 2015 0:03:38 GMT
Well, you probably still have to spend a few grand just to get the duplicates. if i get a mystic i will rather transfer that one important still to another 5star... Mystic with frost is expensive and vulnerable to disposal .... And i rather have 2 or 3 mystic in the deck that one soon one... They can help multiples recycle.... But if only get one and to beef it up i will transfer it to spider queen atlest disposal is somewhat resistant and it can 70% prevent physical attack so can last long....
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Post by DianaTroy [βκ] on Mar 7, 2015 0:07:11 GMT
Battleblow 8 on a Titania would render any deck that relies on multiples (Curse and Horned Beast decks come to mind) completely and utterly decimated.
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Post by Somar [BK] on Mar 7, 2015 2:29:35 GMT
Since 5* melding is going to be real, i hope they remove some restritions on melding on 3*, or let us meld repeated skills again, at least let us have a fighting chance, even if it is a feeble one.
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Post by asgarth1980 on Mar 7, 2015 2:44:27 GMT
We speak as if We can easily get multiples 5star to sacrifice just to beef up on.... F2P is thankful with hardly if 5star....
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Post by asgarth1980 on Mar 7, 2015 2:45:55 GMT
We speak as if We can easily get multiples 5star to sacrifice just to beef up on.... F2P is thankful with hardly if 5star.... the auto text is killing me... What i meant was F2P players with a handful if 5star
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Post by DianaTroy [βκ] on Mar 8, 2015 5:05:36 GMT
Instakill on Undying Will.
Kills a creature every time it's played AND dies.
Battleblow 8 on Phantom Liege.
Good luck killing him now.
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Post by Somar [BK] on Mar 8, 2015 5:35:05 GMT
Battleblow 8 on Phantom Liege. Good luck killing him now. Very true, but if i had enough copies of him for a meld i would probably rather use them all than kill 3 or 4 of them just to improve 1. one can dream
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Post by DianaTroy [βκ] on Mar 8, 2015 5:55:19 GMT
Battleblow 8 on Phantom Liege. Good luck killing him now. Very true, but if i had enough copies of him for a meld i would probably rather use them all than kill 3 or 4 of them just to improve 1. one can dream That would be DEADLY, unless you fought a Titania
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Post by asgarth1980 on Mar 8, 2015 10:51:58 GMT
Battleblow 8 on Phantom Liege. Good luck killing him now. Very true, but if i had enough copies of him for a meld i would probably rather use them all than kill 3 or 4 of them just to improve 1. one can dream sounds like map 10-8.......3 phantom... 2dahlia.... 2spirit siren any 2 gorgon....basically seal seal rebirth .... Only weakness is disposal....
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Post by ℜ★Naruto on Mar 8, 2015 12:48:02 GMT
Hero skill still work, so death curse will kill the tree sooner or later.
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Post by Somar [BK] on Mar 8, 2015 13:50:42 GMT
Very true, but if i had enough copies of him for a meld i would probably rather use them all than kill 3 or 4 of them just to improve 1. one can dream That would be DEADLY, unless you fought a Titania Titania is the nightmare of anyone attempting to stack multiples on a deck.
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Post by Somar [BK] on Mar 8, 2015 13:54:31 GMT
Very true, but if i had enough copies of him for a meld i would probably rather use them all than kill 3 or 4 of them just to improve 1. one can dream sounds like map 10-8.......3 phantom... 2dahlia.... 2spirit siren any 2 gorgon....basically seal seal rebirth .... Only weakness is disposal.... I've not reached map 10 yet, but that sounds like a good place to spend a couple of weeks "vacation".
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Post by SoaponaRope [BK] on Mar 8, 2015 15:40:53 GMT
It doesn't matter what order block or frost armor are in, still works. For example royal knight with frost armor 3 added on will only take 5 physical damage. This has been tested as of today and works fine. Meaning a mirmirs tree would be immune to physical damage with frost armor, the only prob with melding is that you will probably need about 6-8 mirmirs to be successful. I just want to make sure on this. I have NOT done a Block then Frost Amor melding myself but had found multiple instances throughout the game with which to test this and it DID NOT work as intended in any of those circumstances. If you're saying it works now I'll need to go hunt some more examples down. You're not talking about Ice Shell or Frost Armor though are you, the Hero Talent buffs have been working with Block for some reason since the first time I tested them.
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Post by DianaTroy [βκ] on Mar 8, 2015 15:53:28 GMT
It doesn't matter what order block or frost armor are in, still works. For example royal knight with frost armor 3 added on will only take 5 physical damage. This has been tested as of today and works fine. Meaning a mirmirs tree would be immune to physical damage with frost armor, the only prob with melding is that you will probably need about 6-8 mirmirs to be successful. I just want to make sure on this. I have NOT done a Block then Frost Amor melding myself but had found multiple instances throughout the game with which to test this and it DID NOT work as intended in any of those circumstances. If you're saying it works now I'll need to go hunt some more examples down. You're not talking about Ice Shell or Frost Armor though are you, the Hero Talent buffs have been working with Block for some reason since the first time I tested them. I have to agree with Soap here as I have seen it NOT work myself in the past.
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Post by SoaponaRope [BK] on Mar 8, 2015 16:28:05 GMT
I just want to make sure on this. I have NOT done a Block then Frost Amor melding myself but had found multiple instances throughout the game with which to test this and it DID NOT work as intended in any of those circumstances. If you're saying it works now I'll need to go hunt some more examples down. You're not talking about Ice Shell or Frost Armor though are you, the Hero Talent buffs have been working with Block for some reason since the first time I tested them. I have to agree with Soap here as I have seen it NOT work myself in the past. Haha indeed and yet again IGG changes things whenever they want. It could have been working for weeks now without me knowing. Just trying to make sure either way if it works or not. If it does work it means they basically re-wrote how skills are handled which probably could have shifted power around for some skills and also opens up different meld options.
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