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Post by Baradead(japooned) on Jun 22, 2015 17:08:12 GMT
Hi 2all!!! Can you help me to make a choice of getting 5 star hero? I can buy parts of 5 star heroes in tournament mail. Which hero do you prefer 1.for damage 2.for defence 3.for guild battles 4.for arena.... ?
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Post by ℜ★Jaegybomb on Jun 23, 2015 10:28:54 GMT
Captivator > Overlord > Judgement> Warlock at lvl 1 Warlock > Judgement > Captivator > Overlord at lvl 10
Captivator is the only real offensive one of the bunch. Overlord is nice because his power comes from leveling up deathless instead of his hero power.
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Post by kakola on Jun 23, 2015 11:28:04 GMT
Im going to get all four and level up warlock and judgement. Ill leave captivator and overlord to low levels (maybe lvl 1). What ive heard, and after few practise matches, warlock seems to be very strong even at low levels. Judgement is the one that scales the best imo. He could very well be the strongest of this bunch at high levels.
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Post by Baradead(japooned) on Jun 23, 2015 12:48:27 GMT
TY for answers. So I have 12 parts of Overlord and warlock. So it's better to go way warlock? I have 1k points every day in tournament mail.
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Post by ℜ★Jaegybomb on Jun 24, 2015 22:42:00 GMT
I wouldn't say 1 is necessarily better than the other. Overlord will provide a more immediate impact while Warlock scales better. Even just getting Warlock to level 4 doubles the heal. The "problem" with Judgement scaling in my opinion is runes (dodge, FA, magi shield, etc) added so many more ways to trigger his ability that you don't even need him high level to max out the heal.
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Post by Baradead(japooned) on Nov 30, 2015 15:37:11 GMT
Hi2all again. Is skill "Mass Charm" of Captivator from map 12-11 real or its just on unreal skull for this map???
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Post by ℳarty on Nov 30, 2015 15:47:21 GMT
Mass charm can't be learned.
Btw with current buff to capt, she is op and worth lvling.
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Post by bluefire on Nov 30, 2015 16:05:02 GMT
How would you guys actually rank the ones from the ore mall? Is Oceanus really the best?
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Post by ℜ★God on Nov 30, 2015 16:38:18 GMT
Oceanus > Armageddon > Captivator > Alchemist > Judgement > Warlock > Overlord > Thor > Blademaster There's my 2 cents.
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Post by voldrox [BK] on Nov 30, 2015 18:05:35 GMT
Best damage - Captivator Best defense - Warlock
Rest depends upon your deck strategy.
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Post by voldrox [BK] on Nov 30, 2015 18:13:34 GMT
How would you guys actually rank the ones from the ore mall? Is Oceanus really the best? If not the best Oceanus is easily one of the best from mines. Very easy to work with and helps immensely against much stronger decks. I have no Revive at all, I borrow one or two from others by cloning, lol.
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Post by deadsun on Nov 30, 2015 18:15:32 GMT
ATM I would consider Captivator the best general tournament purchasable 5 star. She is good pretty much everywhere (explore, tournament, guild maps, etc), and has very little counters that effect just her skill (like how rip and max hp reduction can make judgment's skill almost useless, and warlock is rarely the best choice for explore or guild maps).
For damage, Capt would be the best. Besides being the only real offensive one as mentioned, her max hp reduction isn't blocked by things like Immunity.
For defense, I would argue Captivator and Warlock are tied since almost every aspect of the game where you set up a defense deck, the opponent can see what you are using ahead of time anyway and tailor their deck to counter it (sky arena, and guild battles beign the only exceptions I can think of off the top of my head). Taking that into consideration, Captivator and Warlock are the two hardest to tailor a defense against. Any real defense against them pretty much works on all heroes (rage reduction).
Guild Battles is iffy. There really is no best hero for guild battles since its one of the places where what your opponent is using is completely unknown. However, as mentioned above, since Warlock and Captivator are the hardest to straight up counter with a build that doesn't counter all hero skills in general, it still makes them quite strong in guild battles. And Captivator has access to sharp armor if you wish to go that route, which can straight up destroy certain deck builds.
And anything I would say about arena is pretty much already covered in the first three sections.
In summary, I would say Captivator atm just because of how versatile and useful she is through almost any aspect of the game.
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Post by ℜ★Jaegybomb on Dec 1, 2015 3:16:58 GMT
Oceanus > Armageddon > Captivator > Alchemist > Judgement > Warlock > Overlord > Thor > Blademaster There's my 2 cents. The buff to cap indirectly nerfed judgement and established Warlock and Captivator solidly as the top 2 from tourney. Lights hand is the 2nd best after Oceanus. Overlord is pretty bad. The game changed a lot in the last 7 months and deathless lost a lot of value.
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Post by ℜ★God on Dec 1, 2015 3:20:47 GMT
I didn't list Light's Hand because most of us are too poor or too unlucky to get her And Warlock is good... but in my opinion he isn't very good at low levels. It's only when you get him to level 5+ that he really starts to become pretty powerful.
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Post by voldrox [BK] on Dec 1, 2015 3:31:10 GMT
Warlock is still quite strong at lvl 1 IMO. 20% healing might be low but removing delays, freeze, curses is in itself super strong. It wasn't even 1 week after getting my Warlock and he pushed me to arena 1, got 5k gems in bulk.
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Post by ℜ★God on Dec 1, 2015 4:24:27 GMT
You got 5k gems for getting rank 1? The most I've ever heard of someone getting was 2.1k. Hell, I hope I get 5k gems for placing rank 1 in my arena XD
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Post by ℜ★Jaegybomb on Dec 1, 2015 4:27:21 GMT
I'm guessing it wasn't just from 1 win.
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Post by voldrox [BK] on Dec 1, 2015 4:31:12 GMT
You got 5k gems for getting rank 1? The most I've ever heard of someone getting was 2.1k. Hell, I hope I get 5k gems for placing rank 1 in my arena XD Went from some 35-40 to 1 in two days or so. Roughly 5k gems yeah.
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Post by ℜ★God on Dec 1, 2015 4:40:04 GMT
You got 5k gems for getting rank 1? The most I've ever heard of someone getting was 2.1k. Hell, I hope I get 5k gems for placing rank 1 in my arena XD Went from some 35-40 to 1 in two days or so. Roughly 5k gems yeah. Ah it should be less for me then, since I've already gotten all of the gems up to rank 12.
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Post by thundergod on Dec 1, 2015 15:14:50 GMT
Captivator is probably the best hero in the game now, better than Oceanus(no one has high lvl Odin/Light's hand, so I'm excluding those) Only weakness is an unfavorable matchup vs Warlock.
I would probably go Captivator > Oceanus > Warlock > Alchemist/Judgement > Armageddon > Lvl 9/10 Thor >>>>>>>>>>> Overlord/low lvl Thor/Blademaster
Not sure where high level blademaster would go, probably a level or two below Warlock. I think Cap/Oce/Wl are a step above everything else.
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Post by aketto on Dec 1, 2015 15:52:18 GMT
Captivator, Oceanus and Judgement for me are the best 3 heroes at the moment.
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Post by ℜ★Jaegybomb on Dec 1, 2015 23:41:07 GMT
Interesting. Oceanus has worked better for me than Captivator but my arena is super Warlock heavy.
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Post by voldrox [BK] on Dec 2, 2015 4:26:01 GMT
Honestly though every Hero is good in its own way, what depends is how you build your decks around it. Overlord is one of those poor bastards who gets a lot of beating when it comes to opinions, to be honest I don't like him too much either but sometimes when defending in tournament decks I see my Oceanus lose and my overlord win against another Oceanus I just sit and appreciate Overlord (just momentarily though) lol. Warlock on the other hand performs rock solid for me, consistently defends my deck and i would always be biased towards him. It would get boring if everyone had used the same strategy or if everybody started using only Oceanus. Its the originality of different players decks that is what I love about DH. It did get boring in the stab through era and IGG fixed that very well I have to say. Pick your favourite Hero and build up a strategy around its skills and talents.
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Post by ℜ★Trun on Dec 2, 2015 19:38:04 GMT
Capt scales amazing with levels now..judgement and capt are the best low level heros
Judgment caps usefulness around lvl 5 or so cards can only be healed so much
Warlock and capt are the best higher level heros
Overlord sucks at all levels predator. Dragon rider. Wight and bezeker are better than overlord in my opinion
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Post by tanisomsford on Dec 2, 2015 21:02:17 GMT
Warlock does better with lv 5, so count on 200 shards. Captivator can do great at lv 1, so better ROI to get captivator first, then warlock immediately after. I started on warlock since tourney day 1, and if I had a redo, I'd have gone capt lv1 then warlock.
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Post by ℜ★God on Dec 2, 2015 22:17:43 GMT
CCHUKO has a level 8 Taskmistress on the Taiwanese server. Clones up to 4 enemy creatures with 40% ATK, sends the originals back to your enemy's hand with their wait time reduced by 2, and the clones die after they take their turn. What do you guys think about that?
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Post by tanisomsford on Dec 2, 2015 22:31:42 GMT
Honestly though every Hero is good in its own way, what depends is how you build your decks around it. Overlord is one of those poor bastards who gets a lot of beating when it comes to opinions, to be honest I don't like him too much either but sometimes when defending in tournament decks I see my Oceanus lose and my overlord win against another Oceanus I just sit and appreciate Overlord (just momentarily though) lol. Warlock on the other hand performs rock solid for me, consistently defends my deck and i would always be biased towards him. It would get boring if everyone had used the same strategy or if everybody started using only Oceanus. Its the originality of different players decks that is what I love about DH. It did get boring in the stab through era and IGG fixed that very well I have to say. Pick your favourite Hero and build up a strategy around its skills and talents. Hits the nail right on the head with the skills. Having said that, I feel that the heroes would be more fun and Flexible in feck building if IGG did a better job of a more balanced creature skill pallette. Right now its basically frost armor/immunity/sacrifice with revive/recycle and all else seems to take a back seat. If they added new fresh meldable skills the game would take a more fun direction and there wouldn't be such a clear answer to the OP's question as a result. Oh PS - I still think overlord deserved a buff way more than captivator. Even before the buff, captivator had a pretty good skill while overlords was mediocre at best.
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Post by orgoth on Dec 3, 2015 1:01:24 GMT
Honestly though every Hero is good in its own way, what depends is how you build your decks around it. Overlord is one of those poor bastards who gets a lot of beating when it comes to opinions, to be honest I don't like him too much either but sometimes when defending in tournament decks I see my Oceanus lose and my overlord win against another Oceanus I just sit and appreciate Overlord (just momentarily though) lol. Warlock on the other hand performs rock solid for me, consistently defends my deck and i would always be biased towards him. It would get boring if everyone had used the same strategy or if everybody started using only Oceanus. Its the originality of different players decks that is what I love about DH. It did get boring in the stab through era and IGG fixed that very well I have to say. Pick your favourite Hero and build up a strategy around its skills and talents. Hits the nail right on the head with the skills. Having said that, I feel that the heroes would be more fun and Flexible in feck building if IGG did a better job of a more balanced creature skill pallette. Right now its basically frost armor/immunity/sacrifice with revive/recycle and all else seems to take a back seat. If they added new fresh meldable skills the game would take a more fun direction and there wouldn't be such a clear answer to the OP's question as a result. Oh PS - I still think overlord deserved a buff way more than captivator. Even before the buff, captivator had a pretty good skill while overlords was mediocre at best. Actually captivator was originally OP before her skill lasting until the creture hits another so if locked down it stays, if attacking another and missed via dodge it stays, they then nerfed it while fixing it when launching on snow harlot (since she never attacks its permanant lock).
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Post by ℜ★Jaegybomb on Dec 3, 2015 1:11:19 GMT
It could only stay 1 extra turn max. It was about as strong as it is now. I think Taskmistress is stronger than Captivator and Oceanus. Sending 4 back to hand pretty much guarantees they miss a draw.
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Post by tanisomsford on Dec 3, 2015 4:03:20 GMT
It could only stay 1 extra turn max. It was about as strong as it is now. I think Taskmistress is stronger than Captivator and Oceanus. Sending 4 back to hand pretty much guarantees they miss a draw. Lol! On that note, I noticed no one has really even mentioned Hydra :oP
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