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Post by hellion✪NFS on Aug 5, 2015 8:47:35 GMT
Hi guys, I always thought about Fean as an underrated and underplayed faction, so I decided to create an second Account and play (almost) "Fean only". I did collect a lot of cards now and already had some success with it. Building 3 Tournament Decks with only Fean is very intresting and there are a lot of different possiblities. I have some of them in mind but maybe you guys come up with an idea I did not think of yet. Thanks! This is NOT a F2P-Account! I did spend 100$ on the "First Gem purchase ever"-Event which gave me, combined with Arena, Sky-Arena and Daily login about 63k Gems. Cards available: Heroes: Predator (Lvl.6, Aura/Agile/Deathcloud, All Vigor/Fean Vigor/Heal Amp/Sorcery-Runes) Devil Hunter (Lvl. 4, Aura/Deathcloud/Toxic Mire, Hero Vigor/Sorcery-Runes) Poison Ivy (Lvl. 5, Life/Agile, Hero Vigor/All Vigor-Runes) Bowmaster (Lvl. 1, no leveled talents/runes) Gladiator (Lvl. 3, Toxic Mire) 31/100 Judgement 21/100 Oceanus Creatures: 2 Great Mystic 1 Sea Wizard 1 Blood Elf 1 Fea Firstborn 3 Hanuman 1 Ash Beast 1 Mimirs Tree 2 Phoenix 1 Moon Guardian 1 Yggdryad 1 Horus 1 Henrietta (FA 45%) 2 Horned Beast (Recycle 1) 1 Horned Beast (Delay 3 45%) 1 Light Brave (have 10 more) 1 Dream Guide (Instakill) 1 Fean Mesmer 1 Pegasus Lord 1 Flame Brave (Incinerate 8 30%) 1 Flame Brave 2 Treant Elder (FA) 2 Frost Rager (Spirit Link 6) 4 Treant Guide (Bless 7) Notable unused Non-Fean 2 Gorgon 1 Revenant 2 Undying Will 1 Magmus 2 Death Knight 1 Nidhogg 1 Anathema 1 Spider Queen 1 Balthazar 1 Titania How would your 3 Tournament Decks look like with these Cards? Thanks for your inspiration Greetings Hellîon
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Post by Somar [BK] on Aug 5, 2015 9:01:16 GMT
Are u going 100% faen or are ur decks mostly faen with some mixed crits in between?
Reason I'm asking is because 1st option u will have to meld those 2 revive onto some faen card while 2nd allows some more options.
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Post by hellion✪NFS on Aug 5, 2015 9:06:49 GMT
I currently mix some other creatures in but have mostly Fean. The Mystics are way too good to not use them and I dont have enough Mimir's Trees to meld Revive on them.
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Post by Somar [BK] on Aug 5, 2015 10:31:18 GMT
Giving advice for 3 full decks without watching how well the cards actually go togheter is kinda tricky.
Still, of the top of my head and as a general idea, I would go with immmunity+magic for DH in one deck.
And lots of hp regen+sprite link to take the best out of predator's abilities for a 2nd.
A 3rd one is a lot more tricky because of the heroes.
But I kinda get the feeling that with 1 faction only in 3 decks u can be easily countered when defending tournament.
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Post by tanisomsford on Aug 6, 2015 0:01:06 GMT
For tournament atk, faen magic deck is very lethal against humans. Mine is 2 HB(recycle), 2 flame brave, 2 ragers, 2 weavers, 2 treant guides.
Predator lv 5+ Sorcery must be over 75 damage amped, Heal amplify over 50 if you can swing it.
Fire rune need to be lv 6+, 8 is better. , I did frost arrow7 on all the 3* cards, but soul swap8 would've been better to counter cripple, runes should be lv7+.
This deck has about a 9/10 win rate against typical mortii death/cripple undying, about a 4/5 win rate vs higher tier entangle decks, and a better than 9/10 vs human 4* hero decks.
Weak vs spiky bits(obviously), weak vs top tier lockdown. I know it sounds very weak to look at(no 5* cards), but it works. Friend me if you wanna see it in practice mode.
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Post by vamp on Aug 6, 2015 0:37:20 GMT
For tournament atk, faen magic deck is very lethal against humans. Mine is 2 HB(recycle), 2 flame brave, 2 ragers, 2 weavers, 2 treant guides. Predator lv 5+ Sorcery must be over 75 damage amped, Heal amplify over 50 if you can swing it. Fire rune need to be lv 6+, 8 is better. , I did frost arrow7 on all the 3* cards, but soul swap8 would've been better to counter cripple, runes should be lv7+. This deck has about a 9/10 win rate against typical mortii death/cripple undying, about a 4/5 win rate vs higher tier entangle decks, and a better than 9/10 vs human 4* hero decks. Weak vs spiky bits(obviously), weak vs top tier lockdown. I know it sounds very weak to look at(no 5* cards), but it works. Friend me if you wanna see it in practice mode. For the vast majority of players (without multiple recycle 2/revives), if you put your two recyclers in it you want it to win practically anything. EDIT: for tournament I mean.
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Post by hellion✪NFS on Aug 6, 2015 8:39:03 GMT
Thanks for your input so far.
Currently I use 3 Decks with an clear win strategy as Defense and Offense in Tournament.
Deck 1: Predator with Instakill/Disposal/Revive/Recycle
Deck 2: DH with Heavy magic damage
Deck 3: Poison Ivy with lots of Healers/FA/Spirit Link
This works quite well offensive but it might be better to mix things up in Defense and give every Deck a few casters. This would make my decks weaker since they lack a wining strategy but would reduce the threat of Spikey Bits ... Im not sure if this is the right way to go.
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Post by Somar [BK] on Aug 6, 2015 8:57:54 GMT
Thanks for your input so far. Currently I use 3 Decks with an clear win strategy as Defense and Offense in Tournament. Deck 1: Predator with Instakill/Disposal/Revive/Recycle Deck 2: DH with Heavy magic damage Deck 3: Poison Ivy with lots of Healers/FA/Spirit Link This works quite well offensive but it might be better to mix things up in Defense and give every Deck a few casters. This would make my decks weaker since they lack a wining strategy but would reduce the threat of Spikey Bits ... Im not sure if this is the right way to go. u could try swap predator with ivy. Use the bear to amp ur healing and give ur weakest hero some strength with the disposal/instakill combo. Might be worth a go for deffense purpose. U already reached 1st spot in Arena? if so u can do as I do and use arena to test some deck strategies before changing things in tourney. It may cost u a few positions but once u get 1st spot it really doesn't matter that much.
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Post by hellion✪NFS on Aug 6, 2015 9:21:01 GMT
Thanks for your input so far. Currently I use 3 Decks with an clear win strategy as Defense and Offense in Tournament. Deck 1: Predator with Instakill/Disposal/Revive/Recycle Deck 2: DH with Heavy magic damage Deck 3: Poison Ivy with lots of Healers/FA/Spirit Link This works quite well offensive but it might be better to mix things up in Defense and give every Deck a few casters. This would make my decks weaker since they lack a wining strategy but would reduce the threat of Spikey Bits ... Im not sure if this is the right way to go. u could try swap predator with ivy. Use the bear to amp ur healing and give ur weakest hero some strength with the disposal/instakill combo. Might be worth a go for deffense purpose. U already reached 1st spot in Arena? if so u can do as I do and use arena to test some deck strategies before changing things in tourney. It may cost u a few positions but once u get 1st spot it really doesn't matter that much. That is acutally an interesting Idea. Yes I did already reached 1st spot in Arena but unfortunately I cant test a lot there because I try to keep my deck Power "low" to have an easier run at gauntlet. But changing Predator with Ivy seems worth a try Thanks
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Post by tanisomsford on Aug 6, 2015 15:11:26 GMT
Before I had recycles in my faen deck, I was very heavy on heal/FA. If you don't run recycle/revive in it, it will get beaten consistently vs decks with cripple and 2+ death attacks.
In the ivy deck, never getting killed becomes the card priority so reflect can work its magic. I would think combo heal more than 1k per round and focus on stoneskin instead of FA may be a more 'versatile' build for defense.
If you make a magic deck for defense, you are automatically putting yourself at a 1/3 loss situation defensively. My meteocre spiky bits deck beats up any magic deck with four casters, even if one of them is an unmelded Fafnir(hypothetical) that got cloudburst1.
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Post by tanisomsford on Aug 6, 2015 16:29:54 GMT
For tournament atk, faen magic deck is very lethal against humans. Mine is 2 HB(recycle), 2 flame brave, 2 ragers, 2 weavers, 2 treant guides. Predator lv 5+ Sorcery must be over 75 damage amped, Heal amplify over 50 if you can swing it. Fire rune need to be lv 6+, 8 is better. , I did frost arrow7 on all the 3* cards, but soul swap8 would've been better to counter cripple, runes should be lv7+. This deck has about a 9/10 win rate against typical mortii death/cripple undying, about a 4/5 win rate vs higher tier entangle decks, and a better than 9/10 vs human 4* hero decks. Weak vs spiky bits(obviously), weak vs top tier lockdown. I know it sounds very weak to look at(no 5* cards), but it works. Friend me if you wanna see it in practice mode. For the vast majority of players (without multiple recycle 2/revives), if you put your two recyclers in it you want it to win practically anything. EDIT: for tournament I mean. Oops, sorry. For tournament I was talking specifically about attack deck, where you only really need 2 winning decks. Its not a good idea to have much magic at all in a defense deck.
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Post by vamp on Aug 6, 2015 18:13:47 GMT
For the vast majority of players (without multiple recycle 2/revives), if you put your two recyclers in it you want it to win practically anything. EDIT: for tournament I mean. Oops, sorry. For tournament I was talking specifically about attack deck, where you only really need 2 winning decks. Its not a good idea to have much magic at all in a defense deck. I don't understand how that it is at all relevant to my remark.
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Post by tanisomsford on Aug 6, 2015 18:42:14 GMT
Oops, sorry. For tournament I was talking specifically about attack deck, where you only really need 2 winning decks. Its not a good idea to have much magic at all in a defense deck. I don't understand how that it is at all relevant to my remark. Because you can stack up two decks for attack, so you can afford to put 2 recycles in it.
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Post by rainman2412✪NFS on Aug 6, 2015 19:57:50 GMT
I like this thread. I recently pulled a Sorcery V rune and I have been considering making a Tournament deck with heavy heavy magic damage. I now have many magic damage dealers that I don't use at all because my main deck is a Wight Mortii hybrid deck and the spiky bits dilemna. My three tournament decks are 1) my main Wight deck, 2) a stabthrough deck with Dragon Rider, and 3) a Berserker deck with all Neander creatures. I was thinking of replacing the Berserker deck on attack with a Faen heavy magic damage deck.
My theory was Devil Hunter (I have level 5) with some combination of:
4 Flame Brave 2 Phoenix Flame Master Flame Mage Tidal Siren Yeti Naga Mistress Pegasus Lord (?)
None of these creatures are evolved or melded at the moment so this would be quite a bit of work to do correctly. Anyone have any thoughts? Is this a foolish idea?
With Fire runes, I have 8 fire dealers that could do upwards of 5K damage per turn as a unit. That seems pretty sick.
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Post by vamp on Aug 6, 2015 23:11:31 GMT
I don't understand how that it is at all relevant to my remark. Because you can stack up two decks for attack, so you can afford to put 2 recycles in it. I'm level 82 and I have 2 recycles.
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Post by tanisomsford on Aug 6, 2015 23:21:59 GMT
Because you can stack up two decks for attack, so you can afford to put 2 recycles in it. I'm level 82 and I have 2 recycles. oh I see what your getting at. My advice was for the OP's topic. He has 2 revives, and 2 recycles, and yeah, I feel your pain brother, I am 81 with only the three recycles I farmed for months to get. I spread all three across my defense decks, but, sadly, it doesn't help that much. =(
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Post by vamp on Aug 7, 2015 1:25:18 GMT
I'm level 82 and I have 2 recycles. oh I see what your getting at. My advice was for the OP's topic. He has 2 revives, and 2 recycles, and yeah, I feel your pain brother, I am 81 with only the three recycles I farmed for months to get. I spread all three across my defense decks, but, sadly, it doesn't help that much. =( Ah I see. (Actually I've finished the third thalassa, but cba to upgrade it, will just wait for 2x meld..)
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Post by hellion✪NFS on Aug 7, 2015 8:10:53 GMT
Before I had recycles in my faen deck, I was very heavy on heal/FA. If you don't run recycle/revive in it, it will get beaten consistently vs decks with cripple and 2+ death attacks. In the ivy deck, never getting killed becomes the card priority so reflect can work its magic. I would think combo heal more than 1k per round and focus on stoneskin instead of FA may be a more 'versatile' build for defense. If you make a magic deck for defense, you are automatically putting yourself at a 1/3 loss situation defensively. My meteocre spiky bits deck beats up any magic deck with four casters, even if one of them is an unmelded Fafnir(hypothetical) that got cloudburst1. I thought the same, but then I checked my Battlelogs and suprisingly my Demon Hunter Deck wins quite often against Spikey bits. Reasons for the wins so far were: - Most Neander Decks use almost only Neander Creatures which proccs Spikey Bits very early. - My double Poison-Talents can kill creatures in 2 rounds, most of the time one of them had Spikey Bits active. - I run Mystic, Horned Beast and Fea Firstborn in this deck which gives me quite good comeback mechanics. This were my experiences so far from the 3-4 Battlelogs where DH vs. Spikey Bits were matched. I will keep an eye on it and maybe change things up. Maybe I am winning because my rank is somewhat low and better Spikey Bits Decks will be a problem. Currently Im lurking around 1400. The problem with the Ivy Deck is that I currently dont have a second Heal Amp Rune. So insane amouts of Heal are not possible/hard to achieve. As always, thanks for your input guys.
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Post by hellion✪NFS on Aug 7, 2015 8:23:27 GMT
I like this thread. I recently pulled a Sorcery V rune and I have been considering making a Tournament deck with heavy heavy magic damage. I now have many magic damage dealers that I don't use at all because my main deck is a Wight Mortii hybrid deck and the spiky bits dilemna. My three tournament decks are 1) my main Wight deck, 2) a stabthrough deck with Dragon Rider, and 3) a Berserker deck with all Neander creatures. I was thinking of replacing the Berserker deck on attack with a Faen heavy magic damage deck. My theory was Devil Hunter (I have level 5) with some combination of: 4 Flame Brave 2 Phoenix Flame Master Flame Mage Tidal Siren Yeti Naga Mistress Pegasus Lord (?) None of these creatures are evolved or melded at the moment so this would be quite a bit of work to do correctly. Anyone have any thoughts? Is this a foolish idea? With Fire runes, I have 8 fire dealers that could do upwards of 5K damage per turn as a unit. That seems pretty sick. I dont know if this will work. Most decks I see defending in the Tournament are more or less one of these: - Disposal/Instakill with Recycle (or Revive once you get high enough) - Stabthrough - Human Beatdown - Neander Spikey Bits - Fean Magic without an Recycle/Revive in your Deck you probably wont beat 1st, 4th. 5th depends if he has an recycle. You might be able to beat stabthrough when you get lucky with entangle but I still think Stabthrough would have the edge. Against Human Beatdown you should win most of the time. If you work on this deck it can be strong, but without melds/optimal cards (I mean, you consider using an unmelded Pegasus Lord ) I would probably stick to your Spikey Bits deck and hope for enemies with more than one caster in a deck.
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Post by rainman2412✪NFS on Aug 7, 2015 13:39:59 GMT
Appreciate it Hellion, For the record, I wasn't planning to try this deck as it is. I was just wondering if it would be worth the effort to actually meld those cards so that they would be usable. I won't be using an unmelded Pegasus Lord lol.
Anyway, I will think about it some more. Thanks for the advice.
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Post by tanisomsford on Aug 7, 2015 23:32:52 GMT
I like this thread. I recently pulled a Sorcery V rune and I have been considering making a Tournament deck with heavy heavy magic damage. I now have many magic damage dealers that I don't use at all because my main deck is a Wight Mortii hybrid deck and the spiky bits dilemna. My three tournament decks are 1) my main Wight deck, 2) a stabthrough deck with Dragon Rider, and 3) a Berserker deck with all Neander creatures. I was thinking of replacing the Berserker deck on attack with a Faen heavy magic damage deck. My theory was Devil Hunter (I have level 5) with some combination of: 4 Flame Brave 2 Phoenix Flame Master Flame Mage Tidal Siren Yeti Naga Mistress Pegasus Lord (?) None of these creatures are evolved or melded at the moment so this would be quite a bit of work to do correctly. Anyone have any thoughts? Is this a foolish idea? With Fire runes, I have 8 fire dealers that could do upwards of 5K damage per turn as a unit. That seems pretty sick. Did u get the sorceryV with glory or gems?
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Post by tanisomsford on Aug 7, 2015 23:45:04 GMT
Appreciate it Hellion, For the record, I wasn't planning to try this deck as it is. I was just wondering if it would be worth the effort to actually meld those cards so that they would be usable. I won't be using an unmelded Pegasus Lord lol. Anyway, I will think about it some more. Thanks for the advice. Dude, I can tell you first hand, making a high power magic deck pays off if its for offense tourney. It can be a big help preying on humans and mortii(if you got some recycle in it).
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Post by rainman2412✪NFS on Aug 8, 2015 16:57:55 GMT
Got the rune with glory. This does sound like a good tourney deck but it will take a lot of work to do it right.
At my tourney level I see a ton of Wight, Rider, and Berserker Heroes. The magic deck might work against the first two and my Wight deck is like 90% against Berserker.
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