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Post by lampround✪NFS on Sept 28, 2015 14:21:21 GMT
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Post by dbreezy✪NFS on Sept 29, 2015 0:47:32 GMT
70k+ heroes naruto? How is that? I've faced 40k heroes (not summoners) that I can't beat with stabthrough now. Stop minimizing the monumental mess up by igg with the vigor rune. Honestly stabthrough isn't even one of the 2 worst things in the past update.
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Post by Pyron on Sept 29, 2015 1:03:27 GMT
To be frank, unless folks have lvl 6+ Vigor V on all heroes (aside for Judgment and Predator, they can hold just fine w/ proper support), a well setup Stab deck should be still viable. If a hero doesn't have any protection at all, you can use Stab just fine.
Also, not all players at top 50 to 100 have enough Vigor V/IV to combat Stab properly for defense, so I imagine that at lower tier of tournament the situation would be more precarious. For Arena, the younger ones also suffer for the same problem with players still using Stab or not having proper setup against it.
It certain less effective. Now Vigor rune buff. IMO it was necessary. It was very useless before. Now it has some function. At the same time, the 10x buff may be way too much. 5x would be considered excessive as well.
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Post by drakkan on Sept 29, 2015 6:49:56 GMT
Its not enough if Stabthr deck can beat 70k hero, it needs to beat it often enough. And time will tell if it is often enough.
And in lower ranks, people dont have that much 5* runes, but they have lower power runes with high level and there is much less 5* heroes running stabthrough decks, much less melded Puppets and Godswill runes (and no player there can afford revive Siren for hero kill deck), so Hero Kill alone is much less powerful .. I took my out from defense as it became an easy target..
Its interesting that Godswill rune isnt capped .. I think someone said it will be..
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Post by Absoul on Sept 29, 2015 14:11:18 GMT
Its not enough if Stabthr deck can beat 70k hero, it needs to beat it often enough. And time will tell if it is often enough. And in lower ranks, people dont have that much 5* runes, but they have lower power runes with high level and there is much less 5* heroes running stabthrough decks, much less melded Puppets and Godswill runes (and no player there can afford revive Siren for hero kill deck), so Hero Kill alone is much less powerful .. I took my out from defense as it became an easy target.. Its interesting that Godswill rune isnt capped .. I think someone said it will be.. Godswill rune is capped at 2k damage. Hero Kill decks are still strong, just not a free win against any deck anymore.
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Post by stuuu✪NFS on Sept 29, 2015 14:54:47 GMT
Stab is dead. It was pretty marginal even against Heroes with summon or dodge. I couldn't beat those regularly even before the nerf. I suppose it could still kill a 35k hp Wight, but 50k? Not happening. Hero kill decks aren't even a tiny bit strong anymore in arena or tourney. I dropped from about 60 to 160 in a few days. I'm still trying to run a stab deck but haven't won a single game. Curse and godswill are even worse than they were before back when they were really bad. Discord is now a teeny bit better than delay 1 which is also worthless.
Let's get real and move back to good ol immunity, FA, dodge, revive, paragon, and high lvl heroes. Maybe throw in a little disposal for those who have 5 or more exposed critters (almost never happens).
I have to admit it felt weird beating most of 14 with a lvl 1 royal guard, 3 stab border rangers, a discord dark witch, and a spirit siren. Then after a meld day I went from like 200 in tourney to top 40 before people had their judgements with lightfoot. Basically my entire strategy was stab, but it was already on the way out. My anti-stab deck could beat all stab decks. Stab was awful against dodge, lockdown, and magic damage.
Basically every "all in" strategy has a limited lifespan. It used to be every top deck ran like 5 disposal and now I hardly see them. The only skills with staying power are revive and whatever Paragon's skill is called.
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Post by Absoul on Sept 29, 2015 15:04:25 GMT
Stab is dead. It was pretty marginal even against Heroes with summon or dodge. I couldn't beat those regularly even before the nerf. I suppose it could still kill a 35k hp Wight, but 50k? Not happening. Hero kill decks aren't even a tiny bit strong anymore in arena or tourney. I dropped from about 60 to 160 in a few days. I'm still trying to run a stab deck but haven't won a single game. Curse and godswill are even worse than they were before back when they were really bad. Discord is now a teeny bit better than delay 1 which is also worthless. Let's get real and move back to good ol immunity, FA, dodge, revive, paragon, and high lvl heroes. Maybe throw in a little disposal for those who have 5 or more exposed critters (almost never happens). I have to admit it felt weird beating most of 14 with a lvl 1 royal guard, 3 stab border rangers, a discord dark witch, and a spirit siren. Then after a meld day I went from like 200 in tourney to top 40 before people had their judgements with lightfoot. Basically my entire strategy was stab, but it was already on the way out. My anti-stab deck could beat all stab decks. Stab was awful against dodge, lockdown, and magic damage. Basically every "all in" strategy has a limited lifespan. It used to be every top deck ran like 5 disposal and now I hardly see them. The only skills with staying power are revive and whatever Paragon's skill is called.
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Post by raizeno on Sept 29, 2015 15:26:25 GMT
Stab is dead. It was pretty marginal even against Heroes with summon or dodge. I couldn't beat those regularly even before the nerf. I suppose it could still kill a 35k hp Wight, but 50k? Not happening. Hero kill decks aren't even a tiny bit strong anymore in arena or tourney. I dropped from about 60 to 160 in a few days. I'm still trying to run a stab deck but haven't won a single game. Curse and godswill are even worse than they were before back when they were really bad. Discord is now a teeny bit better than delay 1 which is also worthless. Let's get real and move back to good ol immunity, FA, dodge, revive, paragon, and high lvl heroes. Maybe throw in a little disposal for those who have 5 or more exposed critters (almost never happens). I have to admit it felt weird beating most of 14 with a lvl 1 royal guard, 3 stab border rangers, a discord dark witch, and a spirit siren. Then after a meld day I went from like 200 in tourney to top 40 before people had their judgements with lightfoot. Basically my entire strategy was stab, but it was already on the way out. My anti-stab deck could beat all stab decks. Stab was awful against dodge, lockdown, and magic damage. Basically every "all in" strategy has a limited lifespan. It used to be every top deck ran like 5 disposal and now I hardly see them. The only skills with staying power are revive and whatever Paragon's skill is called. Absoul u broke the game! Definitely you used hacks to use that cause all hero killing decks are dead !
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Post by ℜ★Naruto on Sept 29, 2015 16:22:46 GMT
Got my drone @ TW server.
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Post by ℜ★Naruto on Sept 29, 2015 16:23:23 GMT
My current TW deck, TW is actually pretty fun to play LoL.
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Post by sonbalin on Sept 29, 2015 16:47:16 GMT
ℜ★Naruto - Is that Drone from one of the new features or just pure luck from Altar/gems? Edit - Obviously not from gems as you collected shards. Still, are they from the new features?
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Post by ℜ★Naruto on Sept 29, 2015 16:56:47 GMT
ℜ★Naruto - Is that Drone from one of the new features or just pure luck from Altar/gems? Edit - Obviously not from gems as you collected shards. Still, are they from the new features? Yup all drone shards from mines.
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Post by stuuu✪NFS on Sept 29, 2015 17:02:19 GMT
I stand corrected. Question: How many revive do you have in your stab (and puppeteer) deck?
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Post by Absoul on Sept 29, 2015 17:09:18 GMT
I stand corrected. Question: How many revive do you have in your stab (and puppeteer) deck? This deck had none.
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Post by ninjafred on Sept 29, 2015 17:11:16 GMT
ℜ★Naruto - Is that Drone from one of the new features or just pure luck from Altar/gems? Edit - Obviously not from gems as you collected shards. Still, are they from the new features? Yup all drone shards from mines. Wow ! Could you explain us a little bit more about mines ? I had a look at your Youtube video but still don't understand much. What do you use to mine ? energy, gold, gems ? I can't wait for IGG to allow us playing these new features, and have no time to learn Taiwanese (Chinese) today ... Thx, Ninja
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Post by jafaska on Sept 29, 2015 17:26:22 GMT
My current TW deck, TW is actually pretty fun to play LoL. Damn, how did you get mythril within a week?! And also how did you build such a nice deck at a low level?!
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Post by sonbalin on Sept 29, 2015 17:26:49 GMT
That seems a little crazy, getting a Mythril Drone in less than a week I think?
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Post by dbreezy✪NFS on Sept 29, 2015 18:44:42 GMT
That's an intense screenshot Absoul if it is indeed after the update. My stab team with a decked out captivator, 4 unmelded puppets, 3 stabboids, and 3 stab border rangers wouldn't even get something like that down 20k. The melds and runes on those puppeteers must make all the difference I guess!
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Post by ℜ★Naruto on Sept 29, 2015 19:07:30 GMT
My current TW deck, TW is actually pretty fun to play LoL. Damn, how did you get mythril within a week?! And also how did you build such a nice deck at a low level?! Everyone in TW gets FREE 1x Overlord, 1x Abaddon, 1x Fae Firstborn, 1x Pontiff for mooncake festival. My friend is lv15 there and also have overlord Drone I farmed mines with energy and gems daily (used about 4k gems orso, but i sold all 5* hero and creature shards, so i didnt keep any oceanus shards etc).
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Post by sonbalin on Sept 29, 2015 19:26:56 GMT
Wow, the TW guys are nothing like IGG with their freebies!
I actually prefer IGG's method with these kind of things. Getting a free Overlord for example makes 80% of the heroes obsolete for new players.
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Post by Absoul on Sept 29, 2015 20:06:24 GMT
That's an intense screenshot Absoul if it is indeed after the update. My stab team with a decked out captivator, 4 unmelded puppets, 3 stabboids, and 3 stab border rangers wouldn't even get something like that down 20k. The melds and runes on those puppeteers must make all the difference I guess! It was the first day after the update came out. You can see he has more than 60k hp which wasn't possible pre-patch.
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Post by drakkan on Sept 29, 2015 20:31:27 GMT
Its not enough if Stabthr deck can beat 70k hero, it needs to beat it often enough. And time will tell if it is often enough. And in lower ranks, people dont have that much 5* runes, but they have lower power runes with high level and there is much less 5* heroes running stabthrough decks, much less melded Puppets and Godswill runes (and no player there can afford revive Siren for hero kill deck), so Hero Kill alone is much less powerful .. I took my out from defense as it became an easy target.. Its interesting that Godswill rune isnt capped .. I think someone said it will be.. Godswill rune is capped at 2k damage. Hero Kill decks are still strong, just not a free win against any deck anymore. Is Godswill rune really capped at 2k? As I dont see it on rune (but I see "limit 1000" on st rune)? Maybe its that v7.5 bug or so..? Anyways.. Absoul -> your deck only has 2 stabthrough creatures, others are Puppets + 1 instakill Siren.. so its more like "godswill deck" and not "stabthrough" deck
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Post by sonbalin on Sept 29, 2015 20:40:24 GMT
Anyways.. Absoul -> your deck only has 2 stabthrough creatures, others are Puppets + 1 instakill Siren.. so its more like "godswill deck" and not "stabthrough" deck He was replying to a poster that mentioned Stab, Curse and Godswill being bad and the Hero kill deck's weren't even a tiny bit good...So I think his 'argument' is perfectly valid!
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Post by dbreezy✪NFS on Sept 29, 2015 21:29:59 GMT
That's an intense screenshot Absoul if it is indeed after the update. My stab team with a decked out captivator, 4 unmelded puppets, 3 stabboids, and 3 stab border rangers wouldn't even get something like that down 20k. The melds and runes on those puppeteers must make all the difference I guess! It was the first day after the update came out. You can see he has more than 60k hp which wasn't possible pre-patch. Well played. Definitely something to strive for that's attainable for most FTP
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Post by Pyron on Sept 29, 2015 21:36:42 GMT
Yup all drone shards from mines. Wow ! Could you explain us a little bit more about mines ? I had a look at your Youtube video but still don't understand much. What do you use to mine ? energy, gold, gems ? I can't wait for IGG to allow us playing these new features, and have no time to learn Taiwanese (Chinese) today ... Thx, Ninja From the video, the first mine uses energy, the second a little bit of gems, and the last one lot of gems. Obviously the reward will scale up.
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Post by wathon on Sept 29, 2015 22:42:53 GMT
Don't get your hope up. TW server always get more stuff and better drop rate than US servers.
Why? Simple. Americans are willing to pay more for less, so we get less. It sounds counter-intuitive but that's exactly how it works. Gems are ridiculously expensive (relative to other stuff you can buy instead), but lots people are still buying gems.
Imagine selling a car, if someone is willing to buy a 2000$ car at 4000$, you would sell it to him at 4000$. If no one is willing to buy your car at 2000$, then you would have to lower the price or it won't sell.
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Post by jafaska on Sept 30, 2015 0:16:30 GMT
Damn, how did you get mythril within a week?! And also how did you build such a nice deck at a low level?! Everyone in TW gets FREE 1x Overlord, 1x Abaddon, 1x Fae Firstborn, 1x Pontiff for mooncake festival. My friend is lv15 there and also have overlord Drone I farmed mines with energy and gems daily (used about 4k gems orso, but i sold all 5* hero and creature shards, so i didnt keep any oceanus shards etc). Nice! I should play more there! Ps: Hope to see your grimoire gameplay soon!
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Post by orgoth on Sept 30, 2015 9:29:13 GMT
this is probably because the mooncake festival is the second most important holiday to them, next only to spring festival(Chinese New Year)
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Post by DmnHard✪NFS on Sept 30, 2015 11:00:50 GMT
Damn, how did you get mythril within a week?! And also how did you build such a nice deck at a low level?! Everyone in TW gets FREE 1x Overlord, 1x Abaddon, 1x Fae Firstborn, 1x Pontiff for mooncake festival. My friend is lv15 there and also have overlord Drone I farmed mines with energy and gems daily (used about 4k gems orso, but i sold all 5* hero and creature shards, so i didnt keep any oceanus shards etc). Is it possible still to get this prize? And how?
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Post by ℜ★Naruto on Sept 30, 2015 11:46:17 GMT
Everyone in TW gets FREE 1x Overlord, 1x Abaddon, 1x Fae Firstborn, 1x Pontiff for mooncake festival. My friend is lv15 there and also have overlord Drone I farmed mines with energy and gems daily (used about 4k gems orso, but i sold all 5* hero and creature shards, so i didnt keep any oceanus shards etc). Is it possible still to get this prize? And how? Probably not, I think you need to login during the moon cake festival. Moon cake festival is a huge event in china/asia.
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