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Post by ScreaminBon on Oct 1, 2015 13:49:22 GMT
Seems like the current meta is leaning back towards more disposal/instakill, at least from what I'm seeing in arena lately. And I use Devil Hunter with a crapload of recycle and magic, so the benefit I get from FA is not all that significant. Immunity, on the other hand is amazing in my deck. And since the difference between the reliability of Imm 9 vs. Imm 7 is more like 50% instead of 20%, I want to slap at least 2 Imm 9s on some Faen cards that could get the most benefit from it. So, which do you think would be my best option, given that you can only get so many Spider Queens:
Valkyrie? Horus? Naga? Some other 4*? Some other 5* that's farmable from guild map? (Thinking about on an Imm 9 YGG which seems pretty sweet, and I have no doubt an Imm 9 Sea Wizard would be beastly)
Just wondering what you think the most solid options are.
Thanks.
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Post by Absoul on Oct 1, 2015 14:25:15 GMT
I9 Naga is pretty good and easy to get. You could also just get some mimir trees from guild map if you want good Immunity cards. Meld FA to it and you'll have a pretty good tank.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2015 14:36:35 GMT
Im working on Immunity Sea wizard, flame brave and naga.
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Post by ScreaminBon on Oct 1, 2015 15:22:56 GMT
Thanks for the input. Yeah, I'm using Mimir's and it's definitely solid, which is why I'm looking to put even more Immunity in there. I've been thinking about Flame Brave as well, but with Incinerate 8 and the Rune she's just such a damn offensive powerhouse that I'm not sure I'd want to switch up that offense for defense. Then again, she'd be able to laugh through Spiky, which is nice. I was leaning towards Valkyrie, although some have said there are way better uses for Imm 9. Now Naga would be a real option for me. I've had disposal Naga in my deck for a while, and I'm finding that with the meta shifting away from cheap stab decks and back to cheap disposal/insta decks, giving her survivability vs. disposal/lockdown would probably be more of a benefit overall. And yeah, since Sea Wizard is very much a Naga on steroids, Imm 9 on her is a gimme.
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Post by sonbalin on Oct 1, 2015 15:26:34 GMT
Naga Mistress is probably the best 4*, as mentioned. Being able to cast Tempest and Mass Heal almost every round is priceless.
I also have it on a Treant Elder, it was an unlucky first attempt success - I completely screwed up thinking I was melding my Naga at the time. It's actually a really solid card. Probably not ideal for a magic based deck unless you want another (almost) unstoppable heal alongside Naga though. With a Predator deck having I9 Naga, I9 Treant, (natural Unbound) Ash Beast, (Natural I7) HB + the unstoppable Bear heal is aactually a very nice combination..
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Post by ÐARҞNESS on Oct 1, 2015 17:36:49 GMT
Could always farm Abbadons and take I9 off him.
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Post by thundergod on Oct 1, 2015 18:57:01 GMT
Meta isn't shifting towards disposal/instakill anytime soon, but I think Imu 9 Naga or Flame Brave would be your best choice for a 4*. I9 SW if you have the resources.
Anything but I9 Ygg.
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Post by ScreaminBon on Oct 1, 2015 20:36:06 GMT
LOL what's wrong with an I9 YGG? Is she that useless of a card? Anyway, I have been seeing more cheap disposal/instakill decks lately. Not to say it's a meta shift. I just think when people are cheapos and don't want to use strategy, and their strategy-free stab decks don't cut it anymore, they're going to go back to their strategy-free disposal/insta decks. Regardless, I'm definitely going more Immunity. And Abba is I8 I believe, so would be a fair alternative when I run out of S. Queens. I'm seeing no love for I9 Valkyrie, so I think I'm back to farming Nagas to replace my disp Naga with an I9. And definitely going to try to convince my Guild to let me farm some Wiz shards a few times, esp. since I got some freebie shards from trials, gauntlet and presumably chambers soon as well. That's gonna be one badass lockdown card.
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Post by thundergod on Oct 1, 2015 22:12:22 GMT
LOL what's wrong with an I9 YGG? Is she that useless of a card? Yes lol
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2015 2:14:42 GMT
LOL what's wrong with an I9 YGG? Is she that useless of a card? Yes lol Maybe in a neander deck with some Hoggs
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Post by derpy✪NFS on Oct 2, 2015 4:45:46 GMT
Ygg is useless.
I9 Naga is gold, FB too- but like you said, its a monster with incinerate. Valkyrie needs something to abuse bullseye- either battleblow, sneak, or a way to buff atk. Sea Wizard is terrifying with I9.
To bolster immunity I would lean towards a few HB instead, melded with elven salve/fatigue/recycle/ whatever.
And to clear a couple things, Abaddon is I9 not 8, so a great source of immunity, and the meta is shifting away from disposal- not towards it. Immunity remains great, but for fending off lockdown and huge magic damage rather than resisting disposal.
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Post by ScreaminBon on Oct 3, 2015 19:17:01 GMT
Ygg is useless. I9 Naga is gold, FB too- but like you said, its a monster with incinerate. Valkyrie needs something to abuse bullseye- either battleblow, sneak, or a way to buff atk. Sea Wizard is terrifying with I9. To bolster immunity I would lean towards a few HB instead, melded with elven salve/fatigue/recycle/ whatever. And to clear a couple things, Abaddon is I9 not 8, so a great source of immunity, and the meta is shifting away from disposal- not towards it. Immunity remains great, but for fending off lockdown and huge magic damage rather than resisting disposal. Yes, you are 100% correct about Abba. I was probably thinking Mimir's, which is another farmable Immunity 5*. As far as HB, I've already got 2 melded: Recycle 1 which is a staple in my main deck, and Fatigue which I use mostly just for Guild map. To be honest though, I'm not a huge fan of Imm 7. The difference between a card that resists magic/disposal/lockdown "most of the time" and one that does it "almost always" is the difference between a card that I use for Guild War fodder and one that goes in my main deck. I honestly don't know of any skill other than cycle 1 or cycle 2 that would qualify another HB for inclusion in my main deck. So yeah, definitely looks like I9 Naga is my next meld. Kind of kicking myself for not having been farming her nonstop for the past few months. And the epic I9 Sea Wiz is definitely a long term goal. Along with an I9 Liege, I might just be able to make some players cry when they go up against me lol. But sorry to say, I think I am going to go with the dreaded I9 YGG just for the heck of it. First of all, she's not really a hot commodity as far as guild map farming, so I can pretty much farm for as many copies as necessary for as long as I need. And also, since my style is very lockdown/defensive, I think it would work for me better than most. You all won't be laughing when my Imm 9 YGG both dodges AND resists your deck to death! Bwahahahahaha!
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Post by Izanami✪NFS on Oct 3, 2015 21:17:47 GMT
Ygg is useless. I9 Naga is gold, FB too- but like you said, its a monster with incinerate. Valkyrie needs something to abuse bullseye- either battleblow, sneak, or a way to buff atk. Sea Wizard is terrifying with I9. To bolster immunity I would lean towards a few HB instead, melded with elven salve/fatigue/recycle/ whatever. And to clear a couple things, Abaddon is I9 not 8, so a great source of immunity, and the meta is shifting away from disposal- not towards it. Immunity remains great, but for fending off lockdown and huge magic damage rather than resisting disposal. Yes, you are 100% correct about Abba. I was probably thinking Mimir's, which is another farmable Immunity 5*. As far as HB, I've already got 2 melded: Recycle 1 which is a staple in my main deck, and Fatigue which I use mostly just for Guild map. To be honest though, I'm not a huge fan of Imm 7. The difference between a card that resists magic/disposal/lockdown "most of the time" and one that does it "almost always" is the difference between a card that I use for Guild War fodder and one that goes in my main deck. I honestly don't know of any skill other than cycle 1 or cycle 2 that would qualify another HB for inclusion in my main deck. So yeah, definitely looks like I9 Naga is my next meld. Kind of kicking myself for not having been farming her nonstop for the past few months. And the epic I9 Sea Wiz is definitely a long term goal. Along with an I9 Liege, I might just be able to make some players cry when they go up against me lol. But sorry to say, I think I am going to go with the dreaded I9 YGG just for the heck of it. First of all, she's not really a hot commodity as far as guild map farming, so I can pretty much farm for as many copies as necessary for as long as I need. And also, since my style is very lockdown/defensive, I think it would work for me better than most. You all won't be laughing when my Imm 9 YGG both dodges AND resists your deck to death! Bwahahahahaha! But immunity+dodge is good only when the creature has a skill(s) worth protecting, yggs safeguard can be duplicated by putting simple runes on your creatures, and the delay 2 will almost always be blocked with the current immunity filled meta, and even if it got through, there are cards that have a much better chance of stopping creatures while also dealing damage to more creatures, like Naga. I put random melds on cards too just for fun or to have some variety but I don't think immunity 9 is a skill to experiment with, if anything id recommend putting a more expendable skill like immunity 7 if you must.
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Post by ScreaminBon on Oct 4, 2015 1:59:14 GMT
Fair points. It looks like I'll have to be retiring poor Miss Immunity 7 YGG from my main deck and relegating her to keeping Poison Ivy company in my Hottie McHottie Faen babe deck I throw out in GW lol. This way I can focus my melding efforts on some more devastating cards like a 2nd FA Hanuman... um, I mean I9 Liege.
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Post by derpy✪NFS on Oct 4, 2015 11:59:43 GMT
Honestly, I7 is a decent skill. Yes, it doesn't always trigger and I9 is far better, but it functions well enough. HB is a horrible card to deal with if melded with good skills- and the mass heal provided is really solid. It's basically the perfect support card. If you want melds for it- recycle and fatigue you already have, a mix of sprite link/elven salve works well. Between 2-4 HB in a deck can really make a Faen deck awful to deal with.
Try this kind of core for Faen:
I9 Naga FA Naga Incinerate FB Recycle HB Fatigue HB Elven Salve HB Elven Salve HB
Now you have very strong disposal/lockdown resistance at this point, with a lot of dodge too- I would try and round this out with a hard hitter, a recycle/revive, and maybe another FA. Try out a few different options and see what works well. It's a simple and easily achieved deck, but a very effective one.
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Post by ScreaminBon on Oct 4, 2015 22:25:28 GMT
Nice suggestions, thanks! So... so you think it would be a good idea to replace something like my FA1 Titania with my Fatigue HB? Not sure if I have any other good candidates for removal: Hippo, no. (I get Elven Salve from her, plus... she's Hippo!) Liege, no. Mystic, no. Mimir's, no. Plus, Devil Hunter doesn't really seem to get as much benefit from Fatigue as other Faen Heroes might, because, his skill.
Anyway, I was also toying around with the idea of an Imm 7 Dream Guide. Not for my main deck, where she'd be outclassed, but for including in one of my Faen decks I throw out in GW, where more often than not hero death puts an end to a delivery. Even with 50k HP+, taking a constant hammering from multiple enemies is going to knock that HP down, and a rebirthing Dream Guide with additional staying power might be helpful in keeping that hero health above water.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2015 17:42:25 GMT
Well I use faen deck as my main and its pretty good imo Predator lv8 Aura8 Agile8 Firestorm9 Hippo (tempest1) Firstborn (flaming 1) 3 HBs (1 recycle and 2 fatigue) Harb (recycle) Light brave (recycle) Treant elder (Fa) Frost rager (Bless7) Phoenix (weakness1) Well its bascially a defensive deck with lots of healing and hb buff. Ill probably change to Judgment when I get him. So yea mimir might be good, dont meld hippo away and use pred (or judge if u have) That will make a decent deck.
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