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Post by pylaczynski on Jan 1, 2016 22:59:11 GMT
Hi ladies and guys, I am wondering what would you propose for me to put inside my deck as a bullseye creature for arena or for general purpose what creature would you love the most. Here is a list of what I have in my main apart from those nasty assholes that pierces pesky dodge and frost armor: - Wight with aura, cripple and undying (let's assume he is dyingproof)
- Horned beast with Rec1
- Harbinger with Rec1
- Royal dragon with Disposal
- Undying will with Detonate 8
- The Twins with Sac8 (I act
- Ash Beast with Frost Blade 5 (blame it on me being stupid and impatient)
- Phantom Liege with Afflict 1
- Eye of Jonara with FA5
That is the 8 of them boys and here is the tricky part, bullseye Crits:
- Pit Dragon with BB 8 (pros: a****** with great base stats, when BB8 procs he kills all of them, when it is not it is still above 1k damage, so unruned Horned beast are not immune, immune for bounding, rebirth/ Cons: disposable, but as are all of them)
- Paladin with BB 8 (pros: during first turn goes easily over 1k damage, as PD is when BB8 procs it kills all of them / cons: disposable, very low hp, not much synergy in this Wight deck, easily preventable from attacking, so it is just a glass cannon for first turn) *I have enough Pals for meld with FA, but not really a fan of that option right now
- Manticore with BB 8 (pros: so cheap to meld, put into deck and easy to find, 2 turn timer (almost like stoneskin), rebirth, damage against FA/dodge with bullseye rune goes up to 2,5k, so when BB8 procs most of the time it is one shot kill, cloudburst adds some lockdown / cons: cloudburst makes it spiky bits prone, low base stats, so it is like go into the field and pray for RNG, susceptible to lockdown)
- Michel lvl 15 (pros: warlust 8 with his low base hp is like 100% battleblow during first turn, holy shield adds some great defense, great base stats / cons: lockdown susceptible, holy shield can make it's warlust useless after some time, disposable, not very good synergy in this deck). Don't have possibility to meld that guy for now, but probably would go for immunity
- Valkyrie/Anathema unmelded?
Which of those guys would you use the most in non-overthinking-about-oponent deck creation? I assume that PD is not moveable, but I could put EoJ away if needed.
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Post by cozy on Jan 1, 2016 23:08:07 GMT
What about Titania? Shouldn't she count?
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Post by pylaczynski on Jan 1, 2016 23:13:30 GMT
What about Titania? Shouldn't she count? Oh totally forgot about her, but you've got the point. I have hate left for her from the time before runes. Actually I could meld something on her, but those stats doesn't attract me at all.
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Post by cozy on Jan 1, 2016 23:17:45 GMT
What about Titania? Shouldn't she count? Oh totally forgot about her, but you've got the point. I have hate left for her from the time before runes. Actually I could meld something on her, but those stats doesn't attract me at all. I'm not voting for her, just thought she should be on the list. I use her plenty because she's perfect in specific situations. She's like a better manticore with a worse timer really. She's more meldable than the other 5*s too. I look forward to hearing some thoughts on this as I'm about to meld a bb8 manticore for my deck but want to get a long term plan mind.
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Post by pylaczynski on Jan 1, 2016 23:25:51 GMT
Oh totally forgot about her, but you've got the point. I have hate left for her from the time before runes. Actually I could meld something on her, but those stats doesn't attract me at all. I'm not voting for her, just thought she should be on the list. I use her plenty because she's perfect in specific situations. She's like a better manticore with a worse timer really. She's more meldable than the other 5*s too. I look forward to hearing some thoughts on this as I'm about to meld a bb8 manticore for my deck but want to get a long term plan mind. I think BB 8 Manticore is something which is too cheap and easy to get comparing to it's usefulness not to have in your army, if not for main deck it would be still useful in gauntlet and gw
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Post by ihelios on Jan 1, 2016 23:41:48 GMT
I'm not voting for her, just thought she should be on the list. I use her plenty because she's perfect in specific situations. She's like a better manticore with a worse timer really. She's more meldable than the other 5*s too. I look forward to hearing some thoughts on this as I'm about to meld a bb8 manticore for my deck but want to get a long term plan mind. I think BB 8 Manticore is something which is too cheap and easy to get comparing to it's usefulness not to have in your army, if not for main deck it would be still useful in gauntlet and gw If your opponent doesn't have a Paragon BB8 Manticore is an amazing glass cannon. In my arena was someone with 2 of them and both Manticores were heavily runed (violence and bullseye). So it oneshotted my recyclers and easily... and with durable recyclers Manticore keeps oneshotting until you have board control. But that's just a specific situation from "my experience".
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2016 15:28:10 GMT
Bb8 manticore will last you a long time .... I used 2 well rune bb8 manticore all the way through top 300 tourney and they have been holding up very well.
Titania isn't the most useful but it gives a large advantage against nidhogg stacking decks or multi horn beast decks. Immunity seems best from experience and you can improve her stats with runes
Soul snatch 8 >>> bb8 pit drag imo
Sneak8 anathema best makes use of his skillset and is a lot easier to abuse than you would expect
Sac is just a bad skill imo. Have seen a lot of losses happening because the sac crit needlessly killed an important card
Soul swap valk is nice with the rune
Bloodrage/soul swap Michael is cool to use as well. Not sure which is the better skill tho
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Post by aketto on Jan 2, 2016 17:14:05 GMT
Lately I am trying to make my BB8 Paladin, I9 Paladin. I tried him in my deck with BB8, but he is often lock downed. So I decided to do a I9 one. I run a heavy healer deck with a lot of health bonuses from the hero(Captivator) and Immunity creatures are awesome in that setup. In a week or so I would say if it is good creature or not
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Post by asgarth1980 on Jan 4, 2016 8:16:04 GMT
Funny pit dragon is not in list..it is by far one of the most effective even better than anathema because cannot be locked down whereas the rest of the listed critters could.
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Post by pylaczynski on Jan 4, 2016 15:02:51 GMT
Funny pit dragon is not in list..it is by far one of the most effective even better than anathema because cannot be locked down whereas the rest of the listed critters could. Hi, PD is not in this list, because I didn't want to choose the best Bullseye creature of all (as for there is no Angel Prime etc.), but of those mentioned, as I already have Pit Dragon with BB8 in deck and don't want to put it out As for Anathema lvl 15 being a winner of this contest I have evolved one and (un)lucky me got Thor's rage 1 as a 4th skill. I have doubts whether I should leave it at 14 or evolve it up to 15 adding some great lockdown but being completely vurneable to Spiky bits. What do you guys think?
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Post by ninjafred on Jan 4, 2016 16:33:16 GMT
I've got A Sac8 melded Anathema ... Fantastic against everybody EXCEPT Oceanus, because he will clone your Anathema an one-shot everybody on your side ... So keep in mind that point when melding Bullseye creatures, you don't want these ones to be cloned and need them as low in deck points as possible. I'll vote vote a good old Paladin because he will never get cloned lol.
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Post by voldrox [BK] on Jan 5, 2016 4:58:17 GMT
I've got A Sac8 melded Anathema ... Fantastic against everybody EXCEPT Oceanus, because he will clone your Anathema an one-shot everybody on your side ... So keep in mind that point when melding Bullseye creatures, you don't want these ones to be cloned and need them as low in deck points as possible. I'll vote vote a good old Paladin because he will never get cloned lol. I do miss my sac paladin after I sacrificed him for my current sac Anathema but I am lot more happy with my Anathema.I have placed higher cost creatures so that Oceanus clones my lvl 15 paragon and i9 Phantom liege instead of my bad boy and it helps a lot. I also have an evolved Nidhogg which helps with the cloning problem.
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Post by Sinister22✪NFS on Jan 5, 2016 5:56:52 GMT
I got 2 BB8 Manticores and they work wonders. not to mention their rebirth skill, -> just wow. a staple card in a main deck.
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Post by tanisomsford on Jan 5, 2016 6:13:50 GMT
I've got A Sac8 melded Anathema ... Fantastic against everybody EXCEPT Oceanus, because he will clone your Anathema an one-shot everybody on your side ... So keep in mind that point when melding Bullseye creatures, you don't want these ones to be cloned and need them as low in deck points as possible. I'll vote vote a good old Paladin because he will never get cloned lol. I do miss my sac paladin after I sacrificed him for my current sac Anathema but I am lot more happy with my Anathema.I have placed higher cost creatures so that Oceanus clones my lvl 15 paragon and i9 Phantom liege instead of my bad boy and it helps a lot. I also have an evolved Nidhogg which helps with the cloning problem. I am a big fan of sac paladin, but it probably doesn't help the OP as much as Anethema. Paladin is stronger than Anethema With enough oracles/paragon, but the OP is Mortii focussed so anethema is better since it can stand alone where paladin cannot.
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Post by aketto on Jan 9, 2016 12:51:27 GMT
So, finally my I9 Paladin is done and it's awesome. Constant buff from the runed healers and ATT DMG goes crazy. Protection against dispose, instakill, retreat and lockdown and atfer 2-3 turns the basic ATT is above 1000... I really recommend it for a good healer deck
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Post by tchex on Jan 10, 2016 0:45:09 GMT
The day I got my first sacrifice 8 anethema was, coincidentally, the same day I got to the number 2 spot in my arena - 5* bullseye creatures have such higher stats that they are almost always going to one shot anything.
Working on a sacrifice pit dragon next, the disposal vulnerability is a concern but having him act every turn is pretty awesome.
From the cards you mentioned, I think a Michael with frost armour 5 would be a pretty nasty card and tough to get rid of.
Valkyrie is another to consider, as she has some decent immunity to keep her alive.
Also, consider warlust for the paladin - it is more reliable then battleblow
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Post by derpy✪NFS on Jan 10, 2016 15:31:34 GMT
A card that is sorely underrated is I9 Michael. That can be an absolute giraffe. FA is decent, but very susceptible to lockdown and retreat- almost every turn an I9 Michael is up, it's going to kill something. That's pretty amazing for a non-sac creature. It's also practically immune to attack loss, so if you rune it well enough and pair it with some good healers, it can do a great job. You can very quickly see numbers over 3k if you have 5* violence and protean runes on it. In the current meta, fast damage is paramount for board control, and I9 Michael provides some of the most reliable damage you're likely to see, as well as having a decent self-heal that crucially leaves room for your healers to buff him still.
Other than Michael, there are no long term 4* bullseye that stand out- Paladin is a very decent situational card, but FA isn't as great at the high end as it is in the early/mid game, and anger takes wayyyy too long to build in competitive play. Solid guild map card though. Valkyrie isn't a bad option, but suffers from low stats. Battleblow Manticore is an exceptional cheap fix, especially with runes- they can be a game changer still.
Standout options remain Anathema, Pit Dragon, Angel Prime for 5* bullseye.
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Post by voldrox [BK] on Jan 10, 2016 16:46:55 GMT
A card that is sorely underrated is I9 Michael. That can be an absolute b***. FA is decent, but very susceptible to lockdown and retreat- almost every turn an I9 Michael is up, it's going to kill something. That's pretty amazing for a non-sac creature. It's also practically immune to attack loss, so if you rune it well enough and pair it with some good healers, it can do a great job. You can very quickly see numbers over 3k if you have 5* violence and protean runes on it. In the current meta, fast damage is paramount for board control, and I9 Michael provides some of the most reliable damage you're likely to see, as well as having a decent self-heal that crucially leaves room for your healers to buff him still. Other than Michael, there are no long term 4* bullseye that stand out- Paladin is a very decent situational card, but FA isn't as great at the high end as it is in the early/mid game, and anger takes wayyyy too long to build in competitive play. Solid guild map card though. Valkyrie isn't a bad option, but suffers from low stats. Battleblow Manticore is an exceptional cheap fix, especially with runes- they can be a game changer still. Standout options remain Anathema, Pit Dragon, Angel Prime for 5* bullseye. I have i7 Valkyrie I like it, runed it to 1000 atk and lvl 7 bullseye rune, damages important creatures like QT and HB, Fafnir, Firestorm kills it later. My abbadon is going to get used for an i9 Michael in future. My most favorite creature now remains sac Anathema, wrecks havoc with Warlock.
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Post by GC NeoSephiroth on Jan 11, 2016 15:45:25 GMT
Ive sacrifice anathema and i cant wait to get my pit dragon sacrifice! The higher u get in ranks the less disposal is used and for some reason every rng freezes my anathema every time it gets the chance!
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Post by gfaq on Jan 11, 2016 21:41:29 GMT
You still see disposal around. There is a hero kill deck with Gorgons that wrecks hell on you with al the Discord and puppets and Disposal they have (It is like 14 on my arena). But it is sure you see less disposal and more of other things.
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Post by aketto on Jan 21, 2016 17:27:33 GMT
A card that is sorely underrated is I9 Michael. That can be an absolute b***. FA is decent, but very susceptible to lockdown and retreat- almost every turn an I9 Michael is up, it's going to kill something. That's pretty amazing for a non-sac creature. It's also practically immune to attack loss, so if you rune it well enough and pair it with some good healers, it can do a great job. You can very quickly see numbers over 3k if you have 5* violence and protean runes on it. In the current meta, fast damage is paramount for board control, and I9 Michael provides some of the most reliable damage you're likely to see, as well as having a decent self-heal that crucially leaves room for your healers to buff him still. Other than Michael, there are no long term 4* bullseye that stand out- Paladin is a very decent situational card, but FA isn't as great at the high end as it is in the early/mid game, and anger takes wayyyy too long to build in competitive play. Solid guild map card though. Valkyrie isn't a bad option, but suffers from low stats. Battleblow Manticore is an exceptional cheap fix, especially with runes- they can be a game changer still. Standout options remain Anathema, Pit Dragon, Angel Prime for 5* bullseye. I8/9 Michael is the next target, but these Michael shards are so hard to get... 1-2 shards every 2 days... It will take months before I finish that meld. But I do not agree for the Paladin. Try it with I9 and some good runes in a 5* hero deck with a lot of healers and you'll be surprised how his ATT scales pretty quickly while he remains on the battleground for more than 10 rounds... I should say this is one of the best melds I've done
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