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Post by onewingangelffvii on Jan 8, 2016 22:27:02 GMT
So farmed her hard last month or so. Finally got her. Expected her to be a beast. And idk if its just me but i cant win with her. And when i face her i get slaughtered. Keep in mind i have her at level 2 still. (btw Howcome her skill does only 200 dmg when the description says 300?) glitch or mistake? I have group tactics and deatj cloud 10. Havent gotten mass charm yet despite the 500k glory i dumped into it and im still trying for it.
So i thought the good tactic with her was to trigger melt armor and then exploit it alot. Heres my decks i tried that bombed out bigtime.
#1 Fafnir revive Titania revive SM recycle M Drone Paragon Temptress x 2 Pontiff imm9 Bb michael Cancer
I also switched out and tried multiple variations with SM with life sap and stuff thinking sweeping b would help trigger melt. But ya it failed. Idl why.
#2 Temptress x 2 Niddhogg fa Abaddon recycle 2 Anathema sneak8 Quetzalcoatl heal breath Taures Twins sac Graboid sneak8 Oinari Had new voodoo rune for gas cloud. All cards and hero have fairly high all 5* runes btw. I was thinking the gas clouds and thor rage would be really good cuz it wpuld either hit or trigher immunity so it was failsafe. And sneak triggers alot of course. But ya it ended up being worse than deck # one. I was thinking of venom edhe graboids or sweeping rip for either ripping or triggering melt. Good idea? I need help here please. Idk how to use alchemist or what deck best suits her. So please any help would be grately appreciated.
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Post by Absoul on Jan 8, 2016 23:17:17 GMT
Those decks look really weird to me. Cards like Cancer or I9 Pontiff are completely useless if you want to use Alchemist properly.
You need more cards which trigger Immunity. Get FA Abaddon or I9 Sea Wizard for example. Fatigue 8 Quetz should do well also. Alchemist benefits of AoE cards the most.
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Post by onewingangelffvii on Jan 9, 2016 1:51:43 GMT
What about detonate Ophi with rune? Whats some hood Aoe cards besides those two u recommend
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Post by thundergod on Jan 9, 2016 3:43:27 GMT
Hobble 2 Nidhogg is pretty hood.
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Post by orgoth on Jan 9, 2016 3:59:12 GMT
Hobble 2 Nidhogg is pretty hood. Edited: maybe fatigue niddhogg if you fear spiky bits that much
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Post by derpy✪NFS on Jan 10, 2016 15:41:20 GMT
So farmed her hard last month or so. Finally got her. Expected her to be a beast. And idk if its just me but i cant win with her. And when i face her i get slaughtered. Keep in mind i have her at level 2 still. (btw Howcome her skill does only 200 dmg when the description says 300?) glitch or mistake? I have group tactics and deatj cloud 10. Havent gotten mass charm yet despite the 500k glory i dumped into it and im still trying for it. So i thought the good tactic with her was to trigger melt armor and then exploit it alot. Heres my decks i tried that bombed out bigtime. #1 Fafnir revive Titania revive SM recycle M Drone Paragon Temptress x 2 Pontiff imm9 Bb michael Cancer I also switched out and tried multiple variations with SM with life sap and stuff thinking sweeping b would help trigger melt. But ya it failed. Idl why. #2 Temptress x 2 Niddhogg fa Abaddon recycle 2 Anathema sneak8 Quetzalcoatl heal breath Taures Twins sac Graboid sneak8 Oinari Had new voodoo rune for gas cloud. All cards and hero have fairly high all 5* runes btw. I was thinking the gas clouds and thor rage would be really good cuz it wpuld either hit or trigher immunity so it was failsafe. And sneak triggers alot of course. But ya it ended up being worse than deck # one. I was thinking of venom edhe graboids or sweeping rip for either ripping or triggering melt. Good idea? I need help here please. Idk how to use alchemist or what deck best suits her. So please any help would be grately appreciated. Mass target magic and sweeping blow. Fill your deck with them. That's it for Alchemist. Alchemist is a deadly offensive hero, a very weak defensive one. You have to pick the decks you want to face with it, since it generally focuses on being very magic heavy. That means a single Mythril Drone walls your entire deck. If you want to use it on defence, I would be considering maybe 2 Graboids- your idea of rip isn't bad, venom edge however hits through immunity unless I'm mistaken. A rip Graboid and a battleblow Graboid would definitely help you, Anathema also provides reliable melt armor triggering, but you need a couple of BIG multi hitters- a Flame Brave is a great option, Naga Mistress another, Abaddon is cool too. But take a look at your deck. What are Nidhogg, Quetz, Taurus, Twins, Oinari contributing? Fully half of your deck is contributing nothing to Alchemist. And that's your better deck- your first one was a complete abomination. If you're not contributing to Alchemist, you HAVE to be contributing to survival. I would take: QTx2 Paragon Revive Fafnir Revive Titania Abaddon recycle 2 (perfect card for this deck btw) That's your starting point. That's your recycle/revive core, as well as your QTs- which are vital here. Now you have room for 4 cards to focus on triggering melt armor- I would just pile in all your best spellcasters and rune the s*** out of them, so either they're merked by Alchemist, or by your actual magic. Anything you have. Anathema works too. Try Anathema, Flame Brave, Naga Mistress, and maybe Dame Coldfire? Give it a shot and then make sure you watch the whole battles and evaluate why things aren't working, if you're almost killing creatures but not quite you clearly need more damage output.
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Post by onewingangelffvii on Jan 11, 2016 19:30:02 GMT
OK thanks for the help. I have a few melded casters. Incinerate for brave. Incinerate cold fire. Cloudburst and frost bite Nagas. Maybe ill try and meld a sea Wiz.
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Post by tanisomsford on Jan 19, 2016 22:21:00 GMT
OK thanks for the help. I have a few melded casters. Incinerate for brave. Incinerate cold fire. Cloudburst and frost bite Nagas. Maybe ill try and meld a sea Wiz. Hey bud. Just a bump to you to find put how your are making out with Alchemist? Has it gotten better? I'm about to start farming her, so I would love Some insight. I thought, since I use a fae magic deck, Alchemist would be a good transition into 5* for me. Do you have issues with mythril drones much?
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Post by onewingangelffvii on Jan 19, 2016 23:21:35 GMT
Well since the update i must say she is godly .for pvp tournament and arena she is almost unstoppable of u don't run into a drone. Doesn't seem like many people use them still. And not many berserker anymore either so spiky isn't really a issue now. Her dmg got fixed sinve update and her new explode is very strong and awesome when it starts a chain reaction. I'm putting all my effort into her now and getting her skills and deck finished. But Ya I would say she is tje most OP hero now easily.
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Post by nebiros✪NFS on Jan 20, 2016 12:54:17 GMT
Interesing. I have started to collect ore to buy another 5-star (don't have oceanus, just judgement). I do however have 30 shards for Alchemist. Would you guys go for Alchemist or save up for Spirit Arbiter instead (o shards currently)? I do have a lot of sweeping blow, mass AOE cards and general strong faen creatures to use with alchemist.... Whats the damage like at lev 1, 2 and 3 and how much does to explode thing cause?
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Post by onewingangelffvii on Jan 24, 2016 16:58:43 GMT
Alchemist all the way. I'm only at level two and melt armor does 350 dmg. And then 350 everytime Fa block immunity maiji ect. Goes off. But pretty much your aiming for cards with immunity is the best vase scenario. So every magic spells does 350 to them. So like a melded cold fire does over 1000 dmg a round. And melt armor sticks the whole fight unless warlock takes it off but Melt triggers pretty fast once it goes off like berserker. The explode does half the melt dmg to all cards. Doesn't sound like much but it is OP. Especially for manual pvp. If you let 7-8 cards out its really easy to start a chain reaction and kill everthing by killing one card and that card kills a card and so on it just goes nuts.
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Post by onewingangelffvii on Jan 24, 2016 17:03:13 GMT
I must say the most fun and interesting meld FOr alchemist is a detonate Ophucolus. I use a few. With tje sorcery rune I currently have when she dies she does around 800 dmg to everything with Meteor Rain. And detonate with the sorcery rune does like 400 dmg to 3 cards in top of meteor. And if the detonate rune goes off she will stay there with 1 hp and if she gets killed again the same round she will do it all over again. So I like multiple of her she can wipe a deck out by dying. If they don't have immunity it will wreck what it hits but if they do have immunity it will trigger melt two times. So it's win win usually. I love her
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Post by voldrox [BK] on Jan 25, 2016 15:27:40 GMT
I was thinking to lvl up my Oceanus or go for Alchemist. Don't like Spirit Arbiter, it's too arbitrary.
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Post by devindestroyer on Jan 25, 2016 16:06:13 GMT
Alchemist sounds fun, even if she is not the best at least it adds a new dynamic of the game to explore which it sounds like you have been having fun doing. Im like all the other poor saps here, wasted all my ore on Oceanus a while ago :/ did you manage mass charm yet?
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Post by onewingangelffvii on Jan 25, 2016 19:25:48 GMT
Ya I'm f2p and it took me like a month to getbher. But she's alot of fun and gives me something new to play with. As for mass charm I want it badly. I'm at around 1,500,000 glory now ans still haven't seen charm or lucidity. I'm using group tactics and divine shield that I acquired in tje process. So that tells u how rare charm must be to get
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Post by devindestroyer on Jan 25, 2016 20:04:51 GMT
Wow. So much glory....ughhh I dont think I would even go for it, doesn't immunity/unbound counter it? Even so it still is a great skill.
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Post by galgron on Jan 26, 2016 3:41:33 GMT
I was thinking to lvl up my Oceanus or go for Alchemist. Don't like Spirit Arbiter, it's too arbitrary. Arbiter is op... got to see a level 7 one in action her skill may as well said kills 2 cards with a 65% chance of Perma killing it. ((950 + 65% max health. crit needs like 2800 hp to survive that.)) so I'ma gonna imagine level 10 arbiter says kills 3 cards. 1100+90% Needs 11001+hp to survive..... anywas alchemist and many are right needs a deck built around her. Might consider throwing in a liege or two chained or Procced DD. Sorc Rune and Fire rune Flame braves. Naga Mistresses and sea wizards. Freeze or Die faster.
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Post by voldrox [BK] on Jan 26, 2016 4:49:20 GMT
I was thinking to lvl up my Oceanus or go for Alchemist. Don't like Spirit Arbiter, it's too arbitrary. Arbiter is op... got to see a level 7 one in action her skill may as well said kills 2 cards with a 65% chance of Perma killing it. ((950 + 65% max health. crit needs like 2800 hp to survive that.)) so I'ma gonna imagine level 10 arbiter says kills 3 cards. 1100+90% Needs 11001+hp to survive..... anywas alchemist and many are right needs a deck built around her. Might consider throwing in a liege or two chained or Procced DD. Sorc Rune and Fire rune Flame braves. Naga Mistresses and sea wizards. Freeze or Die faster. I know Arbiter is might powerful, but the thing is its got random victims which I honestly don't like. Its an unguided nuclear warhead that unleashes havoc but its target is unspecified and that for some reason is putting me off. Plus I don't want to need to level it 5+ so I would probably chose Alchemist over SA. Although honestly I think my opinion can change after seeing SA in action.
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