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Post by nohmou on Jan 20, 2016 4:50:25 GMT
Up until now I had relied on my Wight to do good damage in guild maps, and most of my 4* shard farming was dedicated to leveling up his level (finally got him to level 7 the day before the patch hit :/ ). Now, as a still relatively newer player (less than 3 months), I don't have many options for which heroes to use and which creatures to throw in with them. I recently started farming for Berserker to use him, but was hoping the patch would be a couple of weeks away still, and I don't have him even finished yet. Therefore I'm making this thread to throw around some ideas for QUICK to get heroes/creatures until I can go for a more ideal deck using Berserker or some other option. This will hopefully also benefit newer players who haven't really gotten far on building a guild map deck, or players who had ONLY Wight before.
For reference the deck I was using before was: Wight level 6 with +24k hp, and +45 heal amplify 1x Pontiff 2x Frost Armor 5 Oracle (with Bless runes) 1x Frost Armor 5 Techno-Chief (with Bloodlust rune) 1x Frost Armor 3 Panther Chief 1x level 15 Horned Beast (with Recycle, but that is irrelevant) 1x Life Sap 8 Swordmaster 1x level 15 Naga Mistress 1x Dodge 8 Treant Guide 1x Bless 7 Frost Rager (with Bless rune)
The deck really wasn't amazing, and was very weak to magic and lock down, but I've been holding off melding creatures until meld days, and had no supply of immunity creatures the first time around. Even so, I hit as high as 1.5 million on select maps, and over 100k on most. There were maps that I did really poorly on (mainly map 1 with the high magic output), sometimes as low as 20k, but usually even on bad maps I could hit 60-80k.
My options for heroes is somewhat limited at the moment, but I have as 4* heroes a level 7 Wight, level 5 Dragon Rider, level 2 Predator and level 1 Devil Hunter. 3* heroes a level 2 Bowmaster, and level 1 of Balrog, Legion, Chaos Witch, Poison Ivy, and Gladiator. Have every 2* hero, but the only leveled ones are Agni level 7, Defiler level 6, and Zora level 3.
I have been saving up gems for the next Alice Bond, as I couldn't do the first, after which I plan to spend them mainly in the mines, but until then I am not anywhere close to a 5* hero from there. I've been hanging around rank 3-4k in the tournament and started collecting some Warlock shards, but can only afford a shard every 2-3 days, so that's going to be slow for a while.
I tried using my old deck and just swapping out Wight for Zora, but the damage I dealt was absolutely pitiful (and Zora shards have been dropping super sparingly, so I haven't been able to level him any further in a while). Therefore I'm looking for any ideas to get some decent damage fast, any easily farmable creatures I could cheaply meld the next meld day (which is hopefully soon), and possible recommendations for heros that would be useful at level 1 or near to prioritize them.
Lets get some ideas going! Ideally a simple deck capable of hitting close to 100k to start.
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Post by SirGin on Jan 20, 2016 16:30:42 GMT
Ive been considering Poison Ivy. The deck would be some full sustain, frost armor and immunity type. Poison Ivy's Thorn wall is cool because it throws some damage back at whatever enemy threw it first.
Would be awesome to have the enemy creatures kill themselves.
Just a thought.
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Post by ihelios on Jan 20, 2016 18:58:26 GMT
If your Berserker Deck isn't strong enough: Take your Wight Deck, Put Patriarch in, switch lockdown crits against self buffing ones or put (human) healers in. And now you have a deck which often does 100-700k Dmg after playing 3-5 cards and auto. Works quite well for my alt and main account Ah and don't forget to get a drone although it won't change your situation on hevy magic decks, if the Drone comes to late...
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2016 20:53:14 GMT
If you are only aiming to do 100k fast then focus all your short term effort on completing your Berserker. Save up Gauntlet tokens and if you have enough stored up, use 20 gems to refresh the Token mall daily. The energy mine is also a great source for Berserker shards, so take a pay cut on your ore when you get those from the energy chests.
When you get him, work on your talents in this order, 1. A decent level of Neander Aura 7+ 2. Full alert 7+, Phalanx is a good temporary replacement 3. Spiky bits
Add a decent Voodoo rune to berserker.
As for creatures, 2 standard Graboids and 8 standard blood warlocks with vitality runes will get you that 100k most of the time.
If you want to advance those creatures, then a frost armor Graboid + BB/Sac Graboid and a mixed batch of melds on the Blood Warlocks is good - dodge, earth totem, ferral fever etc.
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Post by nohmou on Jan 21, 2016 5:08:10 GMT
Thank you for the responses. I wasn't sure if Berserker would work well enough at level 1, but I see the logic in Neander Aura + Full Alert to help setup so that the Blood Warlocks can get a constant stream of healing going. Went from about 58 to 69 shards today, so I might get lucky and get him tomorrow, and will focus on leveling him for a bit. I have only 1x Graboid and 3x Blood Warlock leveled at the moment, but another 2 Graboid and 9 Blood Warlock unleveled. Been farming Graboids to meld stabthrough recently, and holding onto the Warlocks to meld Earth Totem or Dodge/Block, but I can afford to level a few for the immediate benefits.
Thanks again, will post soon after I test some things. I do have an Anathema I just finished yesterday from guild, a FA Panther Chief, and 2x Nidhogg. Sadly the Delay 3 won't be of any use now, but maybe the Earth Totem/Stoneskin could be useful enough to try and include them on some maps.
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Post by scatterbrain on Jan 21, 2016 13:40:24 GMT
Can anyone give any tips on how to kill/damage mithril drone now,please?
I don't have berserker yet but 9 shards away. I have zora but he is only level 4. The drones are healing themselves faster than I damaging them.
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Post by lampround✪NFS on Jan 21, 2016 16:33:27 GMT
Direct dmg, and stick a bloodrage creature in front if you can. I have a lvl 7 Beserker and use FA Pant Chiefs and Sekhmet. You get some really nice att levels if the cards drop nice
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Post by tanisomsford on Jan 21, 2016 20:11:49 GMT
Can anyone give any tips on how to kill/damage mithril drone now,please? I don't have berserker yet but 9 shards away. I have zora but he is only level 4. The drones are healing themselves faster than I damaging them. I'd do spider queen with a zora. Add a bunch of healers to offset the damage, she will kill it in one battle, possibly even up to two of them.
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Post by dhinstructables on Jan 22, 2016 14:30:13 GMT
Can anyone give any tips on how to kill/damage mithril drone now,please? I don't have berserker yet but 9 shards away. I have zora but he is only level 4. The drones are healing themselves faster than I damaging them. Another idea would be to Meld Ravage 7 from Harpy Queen onto a Panther Chief. He should hit for almost 3k 1st hit and will continue to add ~ 225 every round after that. Plus if you use other ATK buff or Zora, the drone shouldn't be too much of a problem. As a nice bonus for this as well, he will heal himself fully every turn that he isn't lock-downed.
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Post by scatterbrain on Jan 22, 2016 15:52:57 GMT
Thanks guys!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2016 17:20:21 GMT
Can anyone give any tips on how to kill/damage mithril drone now,please? I don't have berserker yet but 9 shards away. I have zora but he is only level 4. The drones are healing themselves faster than I damaging them. A frost armor Technochief or frost armor Paladin with some healers will get the job done. You need to hit him for more than 2k since that is his healing cap. Those 2 cards are examples of cards that increase nicely over time.
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Post by scatterbrain on Jan 23, 2016 15:19:26 GMT
Update--the techno chief (with life-sap- will do a frost armour one next meld day, or maybe bb8 or bloodlust would be better?) was working well with Zora until entangle came into effect and then the drone completely healed, I am assuming I had too many cards. How many cards should my deck have in for just one or two drones,please, and what sort of mix, please?
Sorry for all the questions, I am really struggling in map 6 now Wight is no use.
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Post by cozy on Jan 23, 2016 16:52:18 GMT
Update--the techno chief (with life-sap- will do a frost armour one next meld day, or maybe bb8 or bloodlust would be better?) was working well with Zora until entangle came into effect and then the drone completely healed, I am assuming I had too many cards. How many cards should my deck have in for just one or two drones,please, and what sort of mix, please? Sorry for all the questions, I am really struggling in map 6 now Wight is no use. One curse creature on the right might stop entangle. Two drones ideal deck is: Techno chief Techno chief Oracle Oracle Oracle Curse If there are harlots it won't work, you need unbound or immunity cards.
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Post by guest3959593 on Jan 23, 2016 17:13:01 GMT
Update--the techno chief (with life-sap- will do a frost armour one next meld day, or maybe bb8 or bloodlust would be better?) was working well with Zora until entangle came into effect and then the drone completely healed, I am assuming I had too many cards. How many cards should my deck have in for just one or two drones,please, and what sort of mix, please? Sorry for all the questions, I am really struggling in map 6 now Wight is no use. One curse creature on the right might stop entangle. Two drones ideal deck is: Techno chief Techno chief Oracle Oracle Oracle Curse If there are harlots it won't work, you need unbound or immunity cards. Facing 2 Drones only a cheap way would be: Panther Chief, Panther Chief, Blood Warlock x2 and using berserker? All cards lvl 10. Ending with curse won't guarantee prevention of enemy hero skill because boars will die and respawn behind curse creature. Either way, there is lots of supercheap ways to beat drones with berserker.
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Post by cozy on Jan 23, 2016 20:00:28 GMT
One curse creature on the right might stop entangle. Two drones ideal deck is: Techno chief Techno chief Oracle Oracle Oracle Curse If there are harlots it won't work, you need unbound or immunity cards. Facing 2 Drones only a cheap way would be: Panther Chief, Panther Chief, Blood Warlock x2 and using berserker? All cards lvl 10. Ending with curse won't guarantee prevention of enemy hero skill because boars will die and respawn behind curse creature. Either way, there is lots of supercheap ways to beat drones with berserker. Panther chiefs won't atk if entangle goes off. This means next round they die. Even if your blood warlocks were healing them completely they would start the turn too low. You either need to raise max hp enough that drone doesn't get them low enough or prevent the entangle from happening. I was talking about zora, which works with the curse strategy. I think for berserker you would need some big hp boosts or to use fa panther chiefs. But if you're using fa chiefs you might as well use a frost rager or ursa. Totally agree about panther chief though. I only said technos because he said he was using them. If we're really talking ideal I think life sap ash beast or i9 liege are it.
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Post by scatterbrain on Jan 23, 2016 21:18:22 GMT
Thanks guys! By the way,cozy, I'm a girl not a guy! I'll let you off this time,though! LOL!
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Post by asgarth1980 on Jan 25, 2016 1:59:57 GMT
Bloodlust swordmaster is way better than techno...
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Post by galgron on Jan 25, 2016 6:51:41 GMT
I think it might be overlooked but if you go graboid and Zora Maurader route wouldn't putting Unbound on Graboid be boss he'll eat the damage the healers heal him and get a massive attack boost each round. with unbound Tempest and Thor won't stop him from attacking and he already has stoneskin so you can shove him in front of Retreaters like archangle.
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Post by lampround✪NFS on Jan 27, 2016 14:28:57 GMT
I think it might be overlooked but if you go graboid and Zora Maurader route wouldn't putting Unbound on Graboid be boss he'll eat the damage the healers heal him and get a massive attack boost each round. with unbound Tempest and Thor won't stop him from attacking and he already has stoneskin so you can shove him in front of Retreaters like archangle. Queen Temptress can be had for merit from current Faction War, go get her cos she is the best for denying enemy hero its skill when only a few crits left. Failing that you need something with Voodoo and a big fat voodoo rune as your last crit on the far right. If the rune is a high enough level the voodoo creatures att against the enemy hero will not set off its skill....
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