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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2015 1:40:04 GMT
I run a pretty decent Mortii deck right now, but still use Cyclops as an Instakill/Sweeping Blow attacker. But the 6 turn wait time, and the lack of deck synergy has me wondering if the Instakill is better used on another creature. So far the game only allows one copy of Cyclops and I am very hesitant to dispose of it in case Neander decks become the way to go in the future.
If I do decide to meld away the skill, which creature should I add it to? I see the skill frequently used on Harbinger, but I honestly find this creature to leave a lot to be desired. I was thinking possibly Dullahan (combo with rebirth/stoneskin) or Hell Knight (combo with buffs).
Any thoughts/suggestions?
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Post by Karlostto✪NFS on Mar 25, 2015 1:44:29 GMT
I would't meld that creatures since it has the skill sweeping blow, and you cant meld that skill on other creatures.
Imo I will work on building another deck for only neanders to use for guild wars and the gaunlet.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2015 2:31:15 GMT
I find that most worth while Neander creatures are 5* and quite difficult to get. But yeah, I agree Sweeping Blow is not something to disregard. It just sucks I got Plague 1 as the 4th skill for Cyclops seeing as there is no way to improve him (as of right now).
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Post by thundergod on Mar 25, 2015 2:35:15 GMT
If it's going to take too long to try to get a hellwolf, then just meld it away. Like you said, it really messes with the flow of your deck. When I put it on my harbinger, I noticed an absolutely huge difference. You're right about harbinger in that he sucks unmelded, but he becomes very good with instakill/disposal.
As for what to put it on, I would put it on either harbinger, light brave, or dullahan, since they work well with rebirth. In my opinion, I would rather have frost armor than instakill on hell knight because you want him on the field as long as possible.
How many copies of each card do you have?
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Post by ℜ★Xega on Mar 25, 2015 2:47:06 GMT
Meld insta onto dullahan if you have enough copies, stoneskin make ensures it isn't disposed before it can be played. Definitely worth sacrificing cyclops.
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Post by DianaTroy [βκ] on Mar 25, 2015 2:49:48 GMT
I'd rather Meld Recycle on Dullahan. Instakill works for any Rebirther but Recycle is better for Stoneskin.
Besides, as for Retreat, you want Instakill to get Retreated, not Recycle.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2015 16:00:47 GMT
I unfortunately have only gotten 1 copy of Dullahan so far. But I have at least 6 Harbinger right now. I also have quite a few Hell Knight, and Cave Dragons. But I don't think Cave Dragon is good unless you dedicate a deck to Cripple and burn damage.
Also, I am hesitant to meld away Recycle. I guess I could farm a third Thalassa, but that would take forever. I don't really think Thalassa is that great of a card overall, but having the Death March is actually quite strong.
My current deck is:
2 Thalassa 2 Phantom Leige 1 Spirit Siren 1 Undying Will 1 Gorgon 2 Phoenix 1 Cyclops
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1 Nidhogg 1 Spider Queen 1 Hippolyta 1 Pit Dragon 1 Ares 1 Venom Tyrant 1 Moon Guardian 1 Bloodletter And a lot of 4* creatures.
I have been working on making an Eye of Jonara with Frost Armor 7. One more meld will get me there. I find its skilset to be very good, and it has very good stats at level 15 for a 4*.
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Post by Pyron on Mar 25, 2015 18:08:58 GMT
I'm thinking in melding it on Harbinger. I have enough copies to do so. Ideally Dullahan would be better thou by they aren't easy to come accross.
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Post by thundergod on Mar 25, 2015 18:09:25 GMT
Since you have enough copies, I would absolutely put instakill on Harbinger and not think twice about it. Also, I wouldn't be afraid of melding away one of your Thalassa because if you find a suitable card to put it on, it will be better. Having a 4 turn timer, plus rebirth/immunity/stoneskin/frost armor is much more valuable than death march imo.
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Post by Sephiroth [BK] on Mar 25, 2015 23:09:04 GMT
I recently did sac'd my cyclops for his instakill and put it on a harbinger. Made my Mortii deck instantly better. However while handy in all battles, the AI exploits it all the time but in PvP battles it's awesome. I don't regret doin the meld.
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Post by DianaTroy [βκ] on Mar 26, 2015 19:56:13 GMT
I'm trying to find a good candidate in a Human deck for Cyclops' Instakill.
The problem is a severe lack of Rebirth creatures.
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Post by ℜ★Xega on Mar 26, 2015 20:08:01 GMT
Only rebirth human is that 2* bird, royal dragon is probably your best option because it has stoneskin and has strong synergy with other human cards.
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Post by ℜ★Xega on Mar 26, 2015 20:09:00 GMT
Only rebirth human is that 2* bird I believe, royal dragon is probably your best human option because it has stoneskin and has strong synergy with other human cards.
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Post by andypk on Mar 26, 2015 20:29:43 GMT
I'm trying to find a good candidate in a Human deck for Cyclops' Instakill. The problem is a severe lack of Rebirth creatures. I would say you don't need it to be human. Might be better not to be so that the extra hps aren't tacked onto it. That is if the purpose of the card is to deliver instakill as many times as possible.
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Post by DianaTroy [βκ] on Mar 26, 2015 23:50:12 GMT
I'm trying to find a good candidate in a Human deck for Cyclops' Instakill. The problem is a severe lack of Rebirth creatures. I would say you don't need it to be human. Might be better not to be so that the extra hps aren't tacked onto it. That is if the purpose of the card is to deliver instakill as many times as possible. It doesn't have to be Human I agree, but I sometimes like to do things for myself and not what's considered "the best". My favourite faction is Human and I'm obsessed with making a killer all-Human deck.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2015 13:30:23 GMT
How many copies of Cyclops do i need to put his instakill on my Royal Dragon?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2015 13:37:46 GMT
I run a pretty decent Mortii deck right now, but still use Cyclops as an Instakill/Sweeping Blow attacker. But the 6 turn wait time, and the lack of deck synergy has me wondering if the Instakill is better used on another creature. So far the game only allows one copy of Cyclops and I am very hesitant to dispose of it in case Neander decks become the way to go in the future. If I do decide to meld away the skill, which creature should I add it to? I see the skill frequently used on Harbinger, but I honestly find this creature to leave a lot to be desired. I was thinking possibly Dullahan (combo with rebirth/stoneskin) or Hell Knight (combo with buffs). Any thoughts/suggestions? my advice, once you have 6 harbringers meld the instakill on him for 2xmeld day. Cyclops is only good for his instakill skill other than that he is useless (very low attack so sweeping blow is not really good) plus you have to wait 6 turns. If harbringer has instakill first he is mortii, second he has only a 4 wait turn, and thirdly he has revive so there is a good chance you can use instakill multiple times in a single fight.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2015 13:42:25 GMT
How many copies of Cyclops do i need to put his instakill on my Royal Dragon? 1 cyclops but 6 royal dragons and that is on double meld day
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2015 13:46:46 GMT
I melded few cards and i was almost sure I need same amount of copies of card which i am melding, and card which i am stealing a skill from edit: So if I have Frost Armor expertise 30% on my Oracle, i dont need any more Frost Ragers to finish the meld? only copies of Oracle?
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Post by andypk on Mar 27, 2015 14:28:56 GMT
I melded few cards and i was almost sure I need same amount of copies of card which i am melding, and card which i am stealing a skill from edit: So if I have Frost Armor expertise 30% on my Oracle, i dont need any more Frost Ragers to finish the meld? only copies of Oracle? Correct. You only burn the copies. The "parts" creature only goes away on a successful meld
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2015 14:33:49 GMT
Oh.. I'm so happy thanks
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Post by andypk on Mar 27, 2015 14:41:09 GMT
How many copies of Cyclops do i need to put his instakill on my Royal Dragon? 1 you are keeping then one for each attempt Coin attempt is 15% (30% on a 2x day) Gem attempt is 22.5% (45% on a 2x day) So the minimum needed is 2 if you are real lucky The maximum you need is one more after you get to 100%, so depending on whether it is a 2x day and whether you use gems will determine how many copies you need. So worst case scenario you do coins on a non-2x meld day and need 9 copies
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2015 15:13:22 GMT
And what about Your previous post? I'm confused I melded few cards and i was almost sure I need same amount of copies of card which i am melding, and card which i am stealing a skill from edit: So if I have Frost Armor expertise 30% on my Oracle, i dont need any more Frost Ragers to finish the meld? only copies of Oracle? Correct. You only burn the copies. The "parts" creature only goes away on a successful meld How many copies of Cyclops do i need to put his instakill on my Royal Dragon? 1 you are keeping then one for each attempt Coin attempt is 15% (30% on a 2x day) Gem attempt is 22.5% (45% on a 2x day) So the minimum needed is 2 if you are real lucky The maximum you need is one more after you get to 100%, so depending on whether it is a 2x day and whether you use gems will determine how many copies you need. So worst case scenario you do coins on a non-2x meld day and need 9 copies
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Post by andypk on Mar 27, 2015 16:16:00 GMT
And what about Your previous post? I'm confused Correct. You only burn the copies. The "parts" creature only goes away on a successful meld 1 you are keeping then one for each attempt Coin attempt is 15% (30% on a 2x day) Gem attempt is 22.5% (45% on a 2x day) So the minimum needed is 2 if you are real lucky The maximum you need is one more after you get to 100%, so depending on whether it is a 2x day and whether you use gems will determine how many copies you need. So worst case scenario you do coins on a non-2x meld day and need 9 copies Sorry I read that too fast, I thought you were referring to how many royal dragons you needed. Just one cyclops needed.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2015 17:12:00 GMT
Thank You
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Post by DianaTroy [βκ] on Mar 27, 2015 17:51:53 GMT
hub666The Master only gets consumed ona successful Meld. It's the duplicates that are the trouble since 4*s are so hard to acquire and most of the good ones aren't farmable.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2015 18:19:41 GMT
Ok i didn't know that before, I was farming both - copies of a card i want to upgrade and copies of a card i want skill to be transfered. I didn't noticed that copies of "giver" aren't consumed after unsuccesful melding cause i was takeing skills from cards that i have planty, till now. Thanks for help
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