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Post by Scap on Mar 27, 2015 7:33:43 GMT
Hello,
First sorry for not beeing registered up here since I am thinking about leaving the game, this forum is far better than the official one, thank you for having created it.
I am playing deck heroes since the begining of January and honestly I had a lot of fun until now.
Now I am lvl 57 and I have only : - 4x 3* heroes : Chaos Witch (lvl 2), Tauro Brute (lvl 2), Poison Ivy (lvl 3), Gladiator (lvl 2). In fact I am mainly playing with my Elder Mawrek (lvl 7) and sometimes with my Defiler (lvl 7). I am farming for Devil Hunter (and Berseker for spicky bits) in the trials but it is so slow... - 3x 5* creatures : Thalassa (unsealed), Spider Queen (unsealed), Titania (1st 5x draw from altar). - a lot of 4* creatures cards.. some are good..
I am stuck in : - map 7-6 - trials ~45 - gaunlet 8 once
I have never bought anything in the game and I am not thinking about doing that.
I am getting sick of gaunlet since it starts against deck with 7 5* deck all lvl 10 with disposal, instakill, revive and I can't win against that.. I am getting sick of being raided and lose glory points when I am not using my defensive deck. I am getting sick of spending 20 energy to get only 1 creature shard. I am getting sick of spending a lots of glory point into heroes skills without getting something better. I am getting sick of not getting good cards from mazes. I am getting sick of playing against players in arena of raids who have at least 5x 5* creatures and how are lvl 38 (do they paid for that or are they incredibely lucky?)
Then, I am really thinking of leaving the game.. But is there still a hope to get 5* creatures? What should I do with my 6k gems ? A last try in the altar? Is it a waste to delete my account and lose my cyclops or other cards got from daily log in? Do you think I had better starting a new game for lvl 0 ?
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Post by nameless44 on Mar 27, 2015 8:26:27 GMT
Quiting should be not good, this is a game of patience and getting more 5* creatures is just a matter of time. You can allways make a new google account and start up a second account on Deck Heroes, then you can play further with youre current account and begin with a new one . youre 6k Gems you can hold on and wait till you clear map 7 , in the maze in map 7 you can get ultima chests for 800 Gems, quarentied a 4* or a 5* creature. Even on youre 10th Ultima chest a 5* is guarantied also.
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Post by Hitmus✪NFS on Mar 27, 2015 8:36:40 GMT
Hi Scap , I have 2 accounts F2P and 1 is on 9-9 map , second on 8-11. in 30 days it is possible to have 4* hero from shards. Yesterday I had wight and pawn master. also you can try start with 4* hero and in 30 days be in map 9. (you just need use your time in account creation at first so you will be not frustrated later) After 25 trials i had devil hunter at start and game become much more easy. So i use motto "use you time at start , fructration will not defeat you later:)" Being patient is really important i guess this game really teach how increase your skill to be patient:) Join our forum and have fun with us so it will be easier to not be defeated by frustration.
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Post by argamoroth on Mar 27, 2015 8:41:32 GMT
This game is not one of instant gratification at least later on, If it's not your thing there's no harm in putting it down. I can almost guarantee you the games pay to win gap will only increase with every update. RNG in this game is stacked against the player in every aspect. Even paid players often get unlucky draws the only difference is they get more draws than F2p/semi. As a Moderate spender I have a lot less/weaker creatures than many of the other members of the forum who haven't spent a dime. Still only 3 5* by level 57 is rough even by this games standards (and none from luck at all) With 6k Gems I'd roll them on boosters personally Gem bag is certainly not worth it In the end the game is about sticking it out and not getting pissed off at the bulls*** RNGesus throws at you if that's not your style don't feel pressured to stick around if it is, give it another shot.
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Post by andypk on Mar 27, 2015 15:23:38 GMT
Hello, First sorry for not beeing registered up here since I am thinking about leaving the game, this forum is far better than the official one, thank you for having created it. I am playing deck heroes since the begining of January and honestly I had a lot of fun until now. Now I am lvl 57 and I have only : - 4x 3* heroes : Chaos Witch (lvl 2), Tauro Brute (lvl 2), Poison Ivy (lvl 3), Gladiator (lvl 2). In fact I am mainly playing with my Elder Mawrek (lvl 7) and sometimes with my Defiler (lvl 7). I am farming for Devil Hunter (and Berseker for spicky bits) in the trials but it is so slow... - 3x 5* creatures : Thalassa (unsealed), Spider Queen (unsealed), Titania (1st 5x draw from altar). - a lot of 4* creatures cards.. some are good.. I am stuck in : - map 7-6 - trials ~45 - gaunlet 8 once I have never bought anything in the game and I am not thinking about doing that. I am getting sick of gaunlet since it starts against deck with 7 5* deck all lvl 10 with disposal, instakill, revive and I can't win against that.. I am getting sick of being raided and lose glory points when I am not using my defensive deck. I am getting sick of spending 20 energy to get only 1 creature shard. I am getting sick of spending a lots of glory point into heroes skills without getting something better. I am getting sick of not getting good cards from mazes. I am getting sick of playing against players in arena of raids who have at least 5x 5* creatures and how are lvl 38 (do they paid for that or are they incredibely lucky?) Then, I am really thinking of leaving the game.. But is there still a hope to get 5* creatures? What should I do with my 6k gems ? A last try in the altar? Is it a waste to delete my account and lose my cyclops or other cards got from daily log in? Do you think I had better starting a new game for lvl 0 ? I made it all the way to map 9 with Thalassa, Phantom liege, and Poison Ivy. You should probably be concentrating on just one 4* hero. It takes a couple of months of dedication to get 1. 2 would make it a tedious 3-4 month venture. Then once you get one built up you'll be succeeding faster in the game. I just started working on other 4* heroes a week ago. And that is only because trial credits and guild credits are coming in faster than I can purchase Wight shards (who is a beautiful lvl 7 at this point). As stated by others save your gems for ultimate chests and even then save a couple thousand anyways as occasionally you'll need some for melds or something else you really need. I was near your level when I started to get more 5* creatures. My 5* turnaround came when I started using coupons the 5x way. But I see others succeed with the single coupons. You can be f2p in this game and have fun and be competitive. I haven't spent a dime: Trials (84) Arena (#1 many times) Gauntlet (well I never succeeded at Gauntlet, but who cares, not every feature is good) Drop huge hits in the guild maps routinely This game is definitely not for the impatient. It thrives on people's needs to be better now. You set an obtainable target and go for it. Do not rely upon anything that you can't guarantee yourself to get. So decide what type of deck you want to build. Is there a creature you can evolve/meld to help you get past a certain battle, then get to melding it. i spent weeks putting Assassinate 7 on a frost rager because I felt it would help me beat 8-11 (at the same time trying to get shards of Arrow Brave). I set a goal, got the creatures and beat 8-11. Took 3 weeks, but I got it. If that type of effort is not your thing, quit now, you won't like this game. It never stops taking this long to do things. I wanted meld immunity 9 on an oracle for guild maps. It took 4 weeks of Oracle shard gathering to get that. 4 weeks! She is awesome. I want another. Going to be another 4 weeks.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2015 15:43:52 GMT
Scap don't quit mate, you are gonna regret that. Keep collecting your favorite hero shards, keep trying in dungeons. You have some gems, spend them on booster event of faction that You have chosen or Ultima chests and everything will be ok. If you will start playing from the begining, you may do many things better, but it still need time. I am lvl 60 and just collected 75 shards for Wicht hero today. Join some guild which will help a lot in collecting shards and money
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Post by R✰Slippo on Mar 27, 2015 16:30:24 GMT
I agree with Argamoroth, if the long term isn't your style of gaming, and you aren't up for spending some cash, I'd say either go ahead and move on to the next game OR start up some new accounts and keep rerolling until: 1. You get a beast card from the Gem Altar first draw 2. Spend gems and luck out on a 4* hero like Hitmus's alt account did
Being unlucky is what 98% of the F2P community is and I still consider myself unlucky after spending some money on human boosters. I've had STAR for the past 4 months (I'd still call that F2P personally) and the 3k gems and extra energy/maze resets are totally worth it. I've rarely get 4* for completing Mazes at x6 clears a day and never have got a 5*. I've bought a total of 20 Ultima chests now and have gotten 3 5* creatures, non of which I use. I won't be buying anymore than star from here on but that one time purchase bonus & what I got from Boosters was worth it IMO since I got a Mystic and a Disposal out of the deal, both of which bumped up my deck a bunch.
The GRIND to 4* hero is rough, and you should focus 100% of your efforts on getting one hero (I suggest Wight if you start a new account) asap on whatever account you end up playing. Wight wrecks guild map and pvp, both of which will help you get more gems/credits to purchase other 4* heroes that you want. I started with Wight, and now have both lvl 3 Dragonrider & Berserker and lvl 2 Devil Hunter while still working on Wight shards.
You HAVE to get Thalassa #2. Outside of a 4* hero or Great Mystic, adding a second recycle to your deck will increase your absolute power exponentially.
Gauntlet- So I'm sure most of the community knows this by now, but the Power rating under description is based off of the HIGHEST deck power you have ever created. The best way around this is to level a boat load of 3 & 4* cards, such as Flame Mage/Boarder Ranger and then use that combined with Hero talent refresh trick to knock out a chunk of cards prior to using your main deck. I've actually beat a 7K+ deck with 10 Flame Mages and lvl 3 Gladiator and it made me rofl. If you can get to stage 9 every day with this tactic you'll be able to purchase shards almost every day.
Get into a guild ASAP that is organized and clears maps. Check out the recruitment section to see who would be a good fit for you. Between Guild map clears and guild wars, I literally cannot spend my guild credits fast enough, even buying every Wight, DR & Berserker that comes available. Woke up to find 4600 in my mailbox from clearing map 3 this morning and GW tomorrow should net me ~7k on top of that!
Gems-Personally, I'd say Human Boosters 100%. Each 5* from there will help you out a bunch, and Great Mystic will completely change you deck into a beast. Also the 4* Human cards are IMO far superior that that of other factions so that is just a bonus. SM & Royal Dragon are just amazing cards to meld stuff onto.
If you do decide to buy gems I'd say go for one of the larger purchases on a promotional day to maximize your purchase. The first x2 with an added 50% could add to your 6k gems and get you to 20k gems, which allows you do also do Alchemy for another ~3500+ gems. That's what I did and dropped it all on Human boosters and don't regret spending that money since I enjoy the game and Great Mystic helped me clear the Gauntlet last night! Woot Woot! (and get that achievement done for 500 more gems!) If you go with the 8200 you also get a Spider Queen & Flame Brave and the total gem count for the purchase would be 8200 x 1.5=12300 x 2 = 24,600 plus what you have and 20k alchemy, so close to 35k! I know $100 isn't something to think lightly about being a graduate student and basically being an indentured servant until I graduate, but again I don't regret my purchase one bit.
Use those glory points up asap! No point saving them since they WILL get raided. Save your Arena/Card glory points for when you get that 4*, then wait to get raided to open the mail/sell those cards so your points will be safe and you can level the heck out of that new 4* Hero
Feel free to send me a message if you have any questions, I know I started to ramble and this was slightly disorganized but I did what I could while writing my thesis abstract lol.
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Post by DianaTroy [βκ] on Mar 27, 2015 17:39:23 GMT
Well first of all, everyone has been giving the best advice. Patience is key for this game. Second, R✰Slippo, I consider STAR f2p as well. It's just too good of a deal to pass up. I already hit 1st in Arena, so achievements, the daily login of 10 Gems and now Guild Battles are my only way to acquire Gems, so STAR is almost necessary for me.
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Post by thundergod on Mar 27, 2015 18:41:48 GMT
I'm not sure how it will be in the future, but for as much as IGG likes to rip people off, you can actually get very far in this game being F2P. This game is actually a lot fairer than other games in this respect. The most important things are really to make sure you are aiming for goals(and make sure they are worth it) and make sure you don't get something horrible like a bloodletter as your guaranteed 5 star. Like the other people said, do not fall into the trap and try to get one of everything. Only go for ONE 4 star at first because a specialist is always better than a generalist.
Fwiw. I'm also, pretty much just a star player(spent $20 gems as a noob but didn't help) and I only have 1 disposal(None until last week) and 0/1 Stoneskin cards in my deck, but I've gotten rank 1 arena and have beaten some of the 3/4+ disposal decks(accompanied by other strong cards). This is mainly because of melded cards. Melded 4 stars can get you very far and you only need patience and very little luck for those. My deck really isn't fancy beside that. (No revive/recycle 2/multiple disposals/etc.)
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Post by inevitable on Mar 27, 2015 18:57:57 GMT
I would restart if I were you. I'm actually doing the same, my main account has exhausted all options of getting a 5* (other than coupons that rarely give anything useful). I got one 5* in the last 10k gems spent. and it was a really bad one too.
My restarted account is level 21 and I opened 3 human boosters on it + guaranteed altar. The booster got me Balthazar and the altar got me an Ash Beast. I plan on opening only human boosters from here on out just so I get cards of the same faction every time, which is a lot more useful than getting all random stuff. Even if you don't get the 5* you at least get many copies of Human 4* for good melds.
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Post by tanner23 on Mar 28, 2015 4:48:56 GMT
Hey slippo. Patience is important. But everyone has a limit. I reached mine last week. Currently lvl72. I do map mazes 8 9 and 10 twice daily. Have been 1st in arena many times and still can't defeat gauntlet. I haven't pulled a 5 star creature from anywhere in at least 3 weeks. However I have just started to get going on melds. Getting a 4 star hero is an immense help also. Joining a good guild will help you farm multiple hero shards daily all of which are 4 star. to stave of boredom and impatience I just started a new account also. Absolutely amazing how many 4 and 5 star u can get from coupons at lvl 20. Even on my main account coupons have netted me more 4 and 5 star creatures than any amount of gems spent anywhere. So hang in there and while your biding your time on main account have fun with a second account. Best of luck
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Post by Scap on Mar 28, 2015 9:10:46 GMT
Hello all, Thank you for your answers and advices. I feel unlucky and frustrated because of the opponents I get from raids, arena and gauntlet who all have a lot of 5* creatures but a lower lvl than mine. I regret having chosen to farm for Devil Hunter instead of Wight since I prefer Mortii now. I also regret having spent my glory points into unused heroes. It is too late to change that now, and too hard to start from the begining I guess. R✰Slippo, could you explain again the trick about Gauntlet please? I am not sure to have understood well. Yesterday I got the following opponent after the refresh !!! Wight lvl 1 : morti aura 4, undiying 5, deep freeze 5 Phantom liege 10, Oracle 10, Flame Brave 10, Pit Dragon 10, Gorgon 10, Thalassa 10 Impossible for me to beat.
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Post by argamoroth on Mar 28, 2015 9:19:37 GMT
The gauntlet trick slippo described was to use lots of cheap magic damage/sweeping blow etc. creatures with a weaker hero (Eg. a bunch of Flame Mages With Gladiator) to do as much damage as possible, and hopefully take out some of the enemy creatures in gauntlet before going at the stage with your main/more powerful deck so your good cards don't take as much damage and clear it faster
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Post by Scap on Mar 28, 2015 18:00:38 GMT
Ok thank you. But I didn't know how to win against the previous opponent (Wight) with this strategy.. It was impossible for me.
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2015 17:51:52 GMT
I wrote the first message of this thread more than one month ago and sadly nothing have changed. I have been patient (5 monthes) and still no 5* cards except 3 with 100% chance to get (unseal and altar).
I am now at Lvl 63 and with no 5* cards I can't go higher in arena or maps. I don't get new challenges since I am stuck. The game has became a routine. Until now I was saving for coupons, hoping that with a lot of draws my situation would have change but it was not the case (http://deckheroes.freeforums.net/post/13361/thread)
I understood that I have no chance to improve anything from now with this account but I don't want to start with a new once since I seriously doubt that my luck will be higher next time.
So, I had a lot of fun with this game but I suppose that it is the time for me to quit now!
Bye and have fun!
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Post by DianaTroy [βκ] on May 10, 2015 18:04:13 GMT
I wrote the first message of this thread more than one month ago and sadly nothing have changed. I have been patient (5 monthes) and still no 5* cards except 3 with 100% chance to get (unseal and altar). I am now at Lvl 63 and with no 5* cards I can't go higher in arena or maps. I don't get new challenges since I am stuck. The game has became a routine. Until now I was saving for coupons, hoping that with a lot of draws my situation would have change but it was not the case (http://deckheroes.freeforums.net/post/13361/thread) I understood that I have no chance to improve anything from now with this account but I don't want to start with a new once since I seriously doubt that my luck will be higher next time. So, I had a lot of fun with this game but I suppose that it is the time for me to quit now! Bye and have fun! While it's sad to see someone quit out of frustration, I sympathize with you. Lately I have been feeling like quitting. The game and some of it's players have basically drained all my love for this game and it's getting harder and harder to play and have fun.
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2015 1:04:24 GMT
I feel your pain. No extra 5* beside 2 Thalassa, Spider Queen, Ash Beast from guaranteed, and a Pit Dragon from 10 Ultima. The game is still kind of fun at times, but getting less and less so. Stuck in map 10. But without a Disposal, hard to make any progress. And going through Gauntlet is more frustration than fun at the moment, given the disappointing reward. I'll probably keep grinding till the end of the month and see how it goes. Good luck though and hope you have fun in other games, or better yet, in real life.
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Post by mingying on May 11, 2015 4:39:15 GMT
I dont have that much luck in 5* too, but 4* combos are sometimes stronger than a stack of 5*. For example i used light brave and 2 pegasus lord to make faen disabler deck. Quite effective and both of them can be acquired pretty easily.
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2015 9:21:04 GMT
Indeed, there are good 4* creatures, but what will you do against opponent with 2-3 disposal and 1-2 Siren or Phantom liege ? I arrive at a point where even with a good strategy it is not possible to win anymore. The game is too much based on luck (from the card you get when F2P) and I don't have fun anymore.
Thank you all for your comments, good luck in the game :-)
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Post by aketto on May 11, 2015 23:30:21 GMT
I play this game for 5 months now. The key here is patience. What I like about this game is that you can set yourself achievable target whatever level you are and whatever creatures you have. I am 100% f2p and with patience I now have 2 4* heroes(Devil Hunter(lvl 6) and Paw Master(lvl 3) with fully upgraded abilities) and almost got Wight(just 6 shards left) and also 50% of Berserker. I unlocked all of the unsealable cards(some of them 2 times) and from limited time events got pretty nice 5*s. Just don't quit. Also at the lvl you are now I started evolving some 3* creatures, wich helped me progress in the game(good 3*s are Frost Rager, Boarder Ranger, Pit Minion, Flame Mage, Dark Witch, Faen Marksman, Manticore). After that you will have good enough deck for starting evolvin the 4*s. After that the 5*s and so on. Just set a priority and go for it. For now you must concentrate on getting the second Thalassa and your 1st 4* hero. After that it is easier.
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Post by pueblo✪NFS on May 12, 2015 8:52:51 GMT
Well, as other people said, patience has a very important role in this game. I would suggest you to join a good guild, from wich you can obtain shards of all 4* heroes in the guild mall. Then i suggest you to unseal 5* creatures, at the beginning i was in a very same situation, no 5*, no good heroes, and unsealing creatures was the only way to obtain some good cards for me. Last thing i can think is to always complete your daily tasks, they give you 3 cupons a day and if you're lucky, you can find good things with them.
edit! An other way could be melding some good 4* creatures! Many of them, with the right melding, can become much more powerfull than a 5*!
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Post by kakola on May 12, 2015 9:14:11 GMT
What guild are you in? Strong guild can really help you progress in game. You get more coins and some really strong 4-star creatures easily. Also guildies support you and share tips. Trust me 4-star creatures are the bomb! I was able to get 1st in my arena with 9 melded 4-star creatures and only 1 5-star creature. I run Human deck and I dont have any disposal. Against disposal and sirens etc you mentioned in your last post you could farm sentry angels from guild map. Meld one with immunity 9 from spider queen and you have really strong mortii killer card right there. He also evades 9/10 disposals that gets thrown at him. Long wait time doesnt matter because he tanks disposals in hand too. One of my favorite melds for sure
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Post by DianaTroy [βκ] on May 12, 2015 15:25:30 GMT
What guild are you in? Strong guild can really help you progress in game. You get more coins and some really strong 4-star creatures easily. Also guildies support you and share tips. Trust me 4-star creatures are the bomb! I was able to get 1st in my arena with 9 melded 4-star creatures and only 1 5-star creature. I run Human deck and I dont have any disposal. Against disposal and sirens etc you mentioned in your last post you could farm sentry angels from guild map. Meld one with immunity 9 from spider queen and you have really strong mortii killer card right there. He also evades 9/10 disposals that gets thrown at him. Long wait time doesnt matter because he tanks disposals in hand too. One of my favorite melds for sure And Sentry Angel with Immunity 9 is a solid Guild Map card.
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Post by andypk on May 12, 2015 16:12:17 GMT
What guild are you in? Strong guild can really help you progress in game. You get more coins and some really strong 4-star creatures easily. Also guildies support you and share tips. Trust me 4-star creatures are the bomb! I was able to get 1st in my arena with 9 melded 4-star creatures and only 1 5-star creature. I run Human deck and I dont have any disposal. Against disposal and sirens etc you mentioned in your last post you could farm sentry angels from guild map. Meld one with immunity 9 from spider queen and you have really strong mortii killer card right there. He also evades 9/10 disposals that gets thrown at him. Long wait time doesnt matter because he tanks disposals in hand too. One of my favorite melds for sure And Sentry Angel with Immunity 9 is a solid Guild Map card. For guild maps for w/ 2 revenants, yes. Otherwise it's useless. If it ain't blessing, mass healing, locking, fatiguing, blocking magic or killing, then it's in the way. And preferably at least 2 of those traits. Especially at a 6 timer. IMO of course. It's an awesome main deck card though. And while you don't have better options in your guild deck it can play. But there are better option for guild map decks.
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Post by DianaTroy [βκ] on May 12, 2015 16:30:45 GMT
And Sentry Angel with Immunity 9 is a solid Guild Map card. For guild maps for w/ 2 revenants, yes. Otherwise it's useless. If it ain't blessing, mass healing, locking, fatiguing, blocking magic or killing, then it's in the way. And preferably at least 2 of those traits. Especially at a 6 timer. IMO of course. It's an awesome main deck card though. And while you don't have better options in your guild deck it can play. But there are better option for guild map decks. That's why I used the adjective solid and not amazing or even great. It's not as reliable as Stoneskin but it can block Retreat and Disposal (where it's 6 timer is actually a benefit).
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Post by andypk on May 12, 2015 17:21:48 GMT
For guild maps for w/ 2 revenants, yes. Otherwise it's useless. If it ain't blessing, mass healing, locking, fatiguing, blocking magic or killing, then it's in the way. And preferably at least 2 of those traits. Especially at a 6 timer. IMO of course. It's an awesome main deck card though. And while you don't have better options in your guild deck it can play. But there are better option for guild map decks. That's why I used the adjective solid and not amazing or even great. It's not as reliable as Stoneskin but it can block Retreat and Disposal (where it's 6 timer is actually a benefit). Aye. You did say solid. But I said useless. The 6 timer is just brutal for guild maps. You are adding an extra hit to your hero every single battle. For a card that only serves the purpose of permanent tank. IMO, a card that only serves the purpose of permanent tank does not work with a Wight based damage dealing guild map deck. Except for on 2-9 and possible one other map. And then I want 2 of them in my deck.
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Post by ℜ★Xega on May 12, 2015 18:01:32 GMT
That's why I used the adjective solid and not amazing or even great. It's not as reliable as Stoneskin but it can block Retreat and Disposal (where it's 6 timer is actually a benefit). Aye. You did say solid. But I said useless. The 6 timer is just brutal for guild maps. You are adding an extra hit to your hero every single battle. For a card that only serves the purpose of permanent tank. IMO, a card that only serves the purpose of permanent tank does not work with a Wight based damage dealing guild map deck. Except for on 2-9 and possible one other map. And then I want 2 of them in my deck. I would agree sentry angel with immunity 9 is basically useless unless it's placed in front of a revenant... even then there are far better options imo. I actually prefer immunity 7 cards in front of retreat cards on maps with 2 or fewer retreats over stoneskin and immunity 9.
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