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Post by nowar on Mar 15, 2016 3:47:35 GMT
Hi Guys,
I had a strange meld idea. What would happen if we meld "Dodge 8" to"Twins" from "Arcane Hunter"?
Twins = 30% counter attack Dodge 8 = 60% protection
In total, will it be 90% protection from basic attacks? If the answer is YES I will definitely do it.
Is there anyone who tried this already? or seen this already.
Thanks all!
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Post by vagou on Mar 15, 2016 3:52:41 GMT
Not sure how the mechanics work in DH, but you don't simply add percentage like that. The probability of not getting hit physically would be: 1 - (0.7 * 0.4) = 72%.
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Post by butte on Mar 15, 2016 12:52:41 GMT
Will trigger his defense skill when dodge procs?
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Post by ÐARҞNESS on Mar 15, 2016 13:00:31 GMT
Dodge on Twins kinda defeats the purpose of having it in your deck.. (Twin Defense)
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Post by Mandragora on Mar 15, 2016 13:01:43 GMT
I had dodge twins and changed it to sacrifice. It was terrible.
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Post by aketto on Mar 15, 2016 23:43:31 GMT
Twins... Meld only with FA or Sac8. End of. Some out of the box meld can be Recycle 1, but I do not recommend it because at the moment with the runes Horned beast is the best for that purpose. Dodge 8... Hell no.
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Post by swordfish on Mar 15, 2016 23:48:57 GMT
Not sure how the mechanics work in DH, but you don't simply add percentage like that. The probability of not getting hit physically would be: 1 - (0.7 * 0.4) = 72%. Yeah, the final percentage would be 72%. Note though that the Twin Defense should be tripped first as it is listed before dodge. So you should get the direct damage reflect. Correct me if I'm wrong though.
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Post by ℜ★Jaegybomb on Mar 16, 2016 4:41:57 GMT
Not sure how the mechanics work in DH, but you don't simply add percentage like that. The probability of not getting hit physically would be: 1 - (0.7 * 0.4) = 72%. Both events are independent in DH mechanics so that's exactly how it works. edit - The 72% edit - Funny enough decreasing the chance to get hit from 70% to 28% is still overall increasing its defense by 60% edit - Sry I'm drunk. No more edits.
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Post by nowar on Mar 16, 2016 4:56:33 GMT
Not sure how the mechanics work in DH, but you don't simply add percentage like that. The probability of not getting hit physically would be: 1 - (0.7 * 0.4) = 72%. Both events are independent in DH mechanics so that's exactly how it works. edit - The 72% edit - Funny enough decreasing the chance to get hit from 70% to 28% is still overall increasing its defense by 60% edit - Sry I'm drunk. No more edits. So that means, 72% protection right? Is there any reason why we should nor perform this meld?
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Post by nowar on Mar 16, 2016 4:59:17 GMT
I had dodge twins and changed it to sacrifice. It was terrible. Hi Buddy, you are the only person I saw actually did this meld. Can you please elaborate more about your experience? Why do you think it's terrible? Didn't dodge occur frequently? Didn't this helped to increase the survivability of twins? Thanks!
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Post by ℜ★Jaegybomb on Mar 16, 2016 5:01:26 GMT
You get more value out of increasing attack than further increasing defense or if you want to increase defense it's more advantageous to capitalize on the multiplier by adding raw HP. Sac does both which is why it's super popular.
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Post by ℜ★Jaegybomb on Mar 16, 2016 5:05:16 GMT
I'm curious if dodge chance or twins defense rolls first though. I guess the only way to find out would be to observe it over a large enough sample size.
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Post by ℜ★Jaegybomb on Mar 16, 2016 5:30:47 GMT
He's saying it's bad because if the dodge chance does in fact trigger first you lose out on 60% of your twin defense damage.
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Post by Mandragora on Mar 16, 2016 10:44:38 GMT
I had dodge twins and changed it to sacrifice. It was terrible. Hi Buddy, you are the only person I saw actually did this meld. Can you please elaborate more about your experience? Why do you think it's terrible? Didn't dodge occur frequently? Didn't this helped to increase the survivability of twins? Thanks! Yeah it dodged quite a lot but frost armor is far superior. Twins are already too much dependant on RNG to add one more factor in. Its like relying on battleblow rune, it can be sometimes frustrating.
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Post by nowar on Mar 17, 2016 3:02:24 GMT
Hi Buddy, you are the only person I saw actually did this meld. Can you please elaborate more about your experience? Why do you think it's terrible? Didn't dodge occur frequently? Didn't this helped to increase the survivability of twins? Thanks! Yeah it dodged quite a lot but frost armor is far superior. Twins are already too much dependant on RNG to add one more factor in. Its like relying on battleblow rune, it can be sometimes frustrating. Thanks! after reading the comments. I've decided to meld FA for graboid and sac8 for twins. Hope it will work well.
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