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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2015 17:15:37 GMT
I run a dedicated Mortii deck so I don't currently use my Hippolyta, but the Recylce 2 is an amazing skill. Since I am not likely going to ever get a second copy of this card, I am curious the forums opinion on if I should meld it onto a creature my deck has synergy with, or if I should keep it as is in case Faen decks become more effective.
If I were to meld it away, I would ideally want to put it onto a creature who is hard to kill, and who doesn't use magic attacks. I am thinking Hell Knight could be good because of his Death March having deck synergy, and his Unbound ability making him more likely to proc his effect multiple times. Other options are Dullahan (but I only have 1 copy), or cards which are much harder to kill like Horned Beast.
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Post by DianaTroy [βκ] on Mar 27, 2015 18:25:23 GMT
I run a dedicated Mortii deck so I don't currently use my Hippolyta, but the Recylce 2 is an amazing skill. Since I am not likely going to ever get a second copy of this card, I am curious the forums opinion on if I should meld it onto a creature my deck has synergy with, or if I should keep it as is in case Faen decks become more effective. If I were to meld it away, I would ideally want to put it onto a creature who is hard to kill, and who doesn't use magic attacks. I am thinking Hell Knight could be good because of his Death March having deck synergy, and his Unbound ability making him more likely to proc his effect multiple times. Other options are Dullahan (but I only have 1 copy), or cards which are much harder to kill like Horned Beast. Thoughts? How are you on Harbingers? Dullahan and Harbinger are the most Melded Mortii in the game.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2015 19:01:11 GMT
I have a decent amount, but I was thinking of melding Instakill onto Harbinger. The reason is that if my Recycler has a magic skill, it will get wrecked by Reflect, Spiky Bits, and Sharp Armor before using the Recycling skill. This can potentially put me into a bad position when I am in need of recycling. So ideally I put Recycling onto a creature who is more durable and not prone to being killed by these types of attacks.
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Post by R✰Slippo on Mar 27, 2015 19:08:44 GMT
With how rare Recycle 2 is, If i was ever so lucky I think I'd save it to meld on something amazing like Fafnir, Mimir Tree or Dullahan. Chances are that is your only one you'll get. You could always move it later on if you choose something else. I've seen it on a Graboid which was pretty beastly even in a Mortii deck. 100% it needs to go on a Stoneskin/Immunity 8/9 card IMO.
My vote for the time being would be Graboid until you get enough Dullahan's. Who knows, your Neander deck might flush out before you get lucky enough with Dullahan extras.
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Post by ÐARҞNESS on Mar 27, 2015 19:39:33 GMT
I'd keep it just because she's so rare, but if you must, i'd go with Horned beast, or even Royal Dragon
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Post by thundergod on Mar 27, 2015 20:44:07 GMT
I already have Recycle 1 on a Horned Beast, but if found a Hippo, I probably wouldn't think twice about putting it on another Horned Beast. The amount of times I've been able to recycle by avoiding Disposal/Instakill and more importantly Seals/Delay 3/Tempest is too much for me to think about anything else. For something with low stats, it lasts much longer than you expect it to. Also, I don't think Dullahan is the most melded Mortii in the game because no one can ever find extra copies lol. Also, I making Hell Knight as a fighter is much better than Hell Knight as a recycler. He will end up getting 2 shot as a recycler(He doesn't get his hp buff), but still avoid lockdown I guess.
I'm never going to find enough copies of other 5 stars to meld onto them and would just put revive on them if that's the case.
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Post by DianaTroy [βκ] on Mar 27, 2015 20:52:38 GMT
Okay Dullahan isn't the Mortii Melded the most, but he would be if multiples were plentiful. Harbinger takes the honour simply because everyone gets multiple copies of him.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2015 1:52:15 GMT
Thanks for the input. I will take all this into good consideration.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2015 13:06:16 GMT
I know this thread is a little old, but I don't like starting new threads with the same topic.
What did you decide to meld with recycle 2?
I *finally* got Hippo yesterday and I'm also trying to decide who to meld. Ideally it would go on Fafnir, but I only have one and the chance of getting enough copies is stupidly remote.
I'd love to put it on Dullahan, but I only have two so I'd only have one shot.
I'm leaning towards Light Brave since I have 4 copies of him. Seems like a good fit to me, but lacks immunity/stoneskin :/
Horned Beast is meh, only have one and am working on my second.
I have tons of Harbingers, but I already have a recycle 1 melded and I regret it. That soul swap has caused me some headaches.
Royal Dragon gets talked about for reclycle, but he seems too squishy and I only have two unmelded spares.
My main hero is Wight, but I have Thor almost ready for primetime. So im not too concerned any longer about staying within the same factions.
Ugh, this is a hard choice. Thoughts?
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Post by Sephiroth [BK] on Apr 16, 2015 13:23:40 GMT
I know this thread is a little old, but I don't like starting new threads with the same topic. What did you decide to meld with recycle 2? I *finally* got Hippo yesterday and I'm also trying to decide who to meld. Ideally it would go on Fafnir, but I only have one and the chance of getting enough copies is stupidly remote. I'd love to put it on Dullahan, but I only have two so I'd only have one shot. I'm leaning towards Light Brave since I have 4 copies of him. Seems like a good fit to me, but lacks immunity/stoneskin :/ Horned Beast is meh, only have one and am working on my second. I have tons of Harbingers, but I already have a recycle 1 melded and I regret it. That soul swap has caused me some headaches. Royal Dragon gets talked about for reclycle, but he seems too squishy and I only have two unmelded spares. My main hero is Wight, but I have Thor almost ready for primetime. So im not too concerned any longer about staying within the same factions. Ugh, this is a hard choice. Thoughts? I don't have a hippo (unfortunately, and congrats btw) but sticking with the recycle topic. I plan on melding a Dullahan with recycle 1. Seems like a good option because of stoneskin and of course rebirth but he lacks a little HP which is a little worrying.. Or does rebirth cancel that out? I have thought of possibly using hell knight, due to Unbound and and another 212 HP @lvl 10 compared to Dullahan. Which may come in handy, although he doesn't have rebirth which is pretty awesome. Another thing too is hell knight will buff your critters with 300 hp when popped far right, may prolong his critters a shot or two before he sees action. So I'm sort of stuck with which mortii to pop another recycle on. You saying Dullahan does make me want to choose him. Also keen on hearing what people have to say in regards to your question.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2015 13:43:18 GMT
I put sacrifice 8 on my hell knight and he's a beast of a tank, not sure about recycle though. Depends on if you have a high enough undying skill. Otherwise all those Disposal Royal Dragons will just tear him to shreads.
It's true that Dullahan lacks HP, but his rebirth is high enough that it's okay. I'd rather have an immune/stoneskin tank with recycle though, so there's more time on the field, but Dullahan is still a solid choice. Just hard to get enough copies.
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Post by Sephiroth [BK] on Apr 16, 2015 13:52:39 GMT
I put sacrifice 8 on my hell knight and he's a beast of a tank, not sure about recycle though. Depends on if you have a high enough undying skill. Otherwise all those Disposal Royal Dragons will just tear him to shreads. It's true that Dullahan lacks HP, but his rebirth is high enough that it's okay. I'd rather have an immune/stoneskin tank with recycle though, so there's more time on the field, but Dullahan is still a solid choice. Just hard to get enough copies. Sweet, Dullahan it is! Can't beat stoneskin atm in battles. I run undying 7 but having rebirth has well helps keeping those cards coming back all fight. I have 3 copies so hopefully 2 more and I'll start attempting to meld it then. Cheers for ya input
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Post by stuuu✪NFS on Apr 16, 2015 15:36:49 GMT
+1 on Dullahan and Graboid. I love me some stoneskin. Lockdown is a major PITA with those, but none of the 4* immunity options are appealing. On the other hand, how many times does recycle 2 really need to happen?
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Post by Somar [BK] on Apr 16, 2015 15:47:34 GMT
Been using an Hippo for 1.5 months or so and my advice is dont meld her away. She fits any deck and any situation. It's just that retreat it's to good and rare of a skill to throw away. I would give a ton of other reasons and examples has i've already did in other threads but i'm getting lazy. But then again i'm biased in this regard, because she's by far the best 5* IMO. (of those that are obtainable for an average player) Some good people in this forum already know i would defend Hippo with claws and teeth
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2015 16:02:25 GMT
I've thought about keeping her, but her elven salve is nearly useless to me. I don't run any other faen in my Wight and Thor decks, but she does she has nice synergy with my Mimir. I guess I could use her to slap together a faen deck, but I don't have a 4* hero to cap it off.
I'm saving my graboids for a second sacrifice 8. Soon. But I can see the allure of putting recycle on one.
What about swordmasters? I have four melded ones, three weakness 6 and one battleblow 8, overkill to meld a fifth? No immunity/stoneskin makes me sad though.
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Post by stuuu✪NFS on Apr 16, 2015 16:06:15 GMT
I've thought about keeping her, but her elven salve is nearly useless to me. I don't run any other faen in my Wight and Thor decks, but she does she has nice synergy with my Mimir. I guess I could use her to slap together a faen deck, but I don't have a 4* hero to cap it off. I'm saving my graboids for a second sacrifice 8. Soon. But I can see the allure of putting recycle on one. What about swordmasters? I have four melded ones, three weakness 6 and one battleblow 8, overkill to meld a fifth? No immunity/stoneskin makes me sad though. Blood lust 7 is a reasonable choice. I prefer Fatigue over weakness. If you have enough swordmasters might as well keep melding them. What else are you gonna meld?
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Post by Somar [BK] on Apr 16, 2015 16:21:34 GMT
I've thought about keeping her, but her elven salve is nearly useless to me. I don't run any other faen in my Wight and Thor decks, but she does she has nice synergy with my Mimir. I guess I could use her to slap together a faen deck, but I don't have a 4* hero to cap it off. I'm saving my graboids for a second sacrifice 8. Soon. But I can see the allure of putting recycle on one. What about swordmasters? I have four melded ones, three weakness 6 and one battleblow 8, overkill to meld a fifth? No immunity/stoneskin makes me sad though. I use her on mortii deck that focus on recycle + undiying + disposal The retreat and recycle 2 alone makes her one of the best crits in this deck the reason is simple, if u fail to dispose something that is really important to win the fight, using retreat to send it back to deck and dispose it after, and while doing that u get to watch her recycle 2 cards every turn, it's just to good to pass on and don't even get me started on fights against venom tyrant, it's just to sweet making the big guy going to deck and back while killing cards for u on the way.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2015 16:49:46 GMT
I mostly use my swordmasters for the guild deck and war. I thought about fatigue 8, but it wasn't fast enough for those harder guild decks. Besides, my Wight's cripple takes care of the early drops.
I have a Hellwolf sitting around that I need to put his instakill on something... not sure what yet. Maybe Harbinger? Or Light Brave?
And man, I really wish I could put Death Gaze on an Oracle. Would be fantastic.
It wouldn't kill me to level up the Hippo and give her a try while I make up my mind. I dislike having a useless third skill, but retreat is nice to have around.
Thanks for all the input!
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Post by thundergod on Apr 16, 2015 22:46:20 GMT
If I had a Hippolyta, I would instantly put recycle 2 on Horned Beast or Swordmaster and not think twice.
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Post by andiz on May 17, 2015 19:55:50 GMT
How did you even get a hippolyta? I've been trying forever..
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Post by ℜ★Jaegybomb on May 17, 2015 20:30:29 GMT
I think melding her onto a swordmaster or harbinger might be a downgrade. 1 in hand is worth 2 in the bush. 1 in play is worth even more.
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Post by ℜ★Xega on May 17, 2015 21:16:13 GMT
How did you even get a hippolyta? I've been trying forever.. Hippo is from maze only. Check source.
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Post by fani on May 17, 2015 21:18:39 GMT
IMO a recycler should be more defensive than aggressive. A recycler should survive as Long as possible. Skills like dodge, immunity, FA and stoneskin are optional.
Also rebirth is nice, but more useful combined with instakill and disposal.
Horned beast seems the best, but against pala, titania and anathema a small breakfast. Harbinger is good, but weak against disposal. Dullahan is too aggressive for me. Swordmaster, same like Harbinger.
Otherwise to say: There is no perfect Recycler. You should find out, witch one fits in with your deck.
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Post by DianaTroy [βκ] on May 17, 2015 21:38:51 GMT
fani Dullahan IS quite aggressive which is why Instakill & Disposal are great choices to Meld on it. As for Recycle, one of my favourites is Swordmaster, despite lacking Stoneskin. She only has a 2 timer, so it's harder to hit her with Disposal. She's vulnerable to Instakill, but once she's played, she's already Recycled at least one creature.
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Post by derpy✪NFS on May 18, 2015 2:59:42 GMT
I've thought about keeping her, but her elven salve is nearly useless to me. I don't run any other faen in my Wight and Thor decks, but she does she has nice synergy with my Mimir. I guess I could use her to slap together a faen deck, but I don't have a 4* hero to cap it off. I'm saving my graboids for a second sacrifice 8. Soon. But I can see the allure of putting recycle on one. What about swordmasters? I have four melded ones, three weakness 6 and one battleblow 8, overkill to meld a fifth? No immunity/stoneskin makes me sad though. Well first up, I really think putting recycle on a Graboid is a massive waste of potential. It's far too strong offensively not to make use of that near 800 atk+sweeping blow, AND ravage. It's a monstrous card that should really get something to complement it- either aid survivability with FA, makes it pretty horrible with stoneskin, or buff that attack even further- I wouldn't use a stacking buff (bloodlust) because it's not that strong defensively, but battleblow or sacrifice are really hard to top. For Hippo, it's a really nice card- I would consider using it in conjunction with Horned Beasts, that's great synergy. If you can get a recycle+fatigue 8 HB in your deck alongside a Hippo, that would work very nicely. But melding away the recycle really isn't a bad idea either. I would be looking primarily for immunity- to me, that skill is king for recycle. It means you have a low chance of being disposed/instakilled/retreated, you aren't going to be locked down easily, and most magic won't affect you. Massive for a recycler. After that, rebirth/frost armor/dodge/unbound, any combination of those will make a decent recycler. Horned Beast is an amazing candidate- it can struggle with HP but it's a monstrous card, seriously. Light Brave/Harbinger are decent too, I don't recommend Dullahan. Stoneskin is a good ability, but it's far more suited to disposal/instakill than recycle, in my opinion. Recycle is an ongoing ability, and you need strong active skills whilst in play- immunity is just far superior. For disposal, you actually want your creature dead ASAP- so stoneskin becomes a perfect marriage. For Swordmaster, I didn't realise for a long time why people used it as a recycler- it has no immunity, no rebirth, and is really suited to offence. Like Diana said, the 2 turn timer is what makes it golden- disposing of something with a 2 turn timer is horrendously tough. There is almost no window of opportunity to put it out. And although it has no immunity, that frost armor/magi shield combo makes sure it's sticking around for a while too, and if it gets recycled- it's back in the field in no time. That being said, I really like SM offensively. If you haven't already got one with bloodlust 7- you don't know what you're missing. It stacks attack in no time (3 hits on 3 creatures and it hits 1k atk) and with good support from a human hero/oracles, it is hellish to get rid of. Bloodlust SM is possibly my favourite meld so far, my next one is probably getting weakness though. For me, battleblow synergises far better with a high base attack, low defense creature- Graboid being the prime example. SM has the defenses to stick around long enough to make bloodlust a better choice, just my opinion.
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Post by mingying on May 18, 2015 4:17:08 GMT
And i thought yesterday melding bloodlust to my SM was a mistake. (i wanted to meld lifesap and didnt read thoroughly... thought bloodlust was lifesteal skill. The name implies, right? )
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Post by DianaTroy [βκ] on May 18, 2015 4:43:37 GMT
derpy✪NFSAmazing post dude. Explained so much perfectly.
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Post by ℜ★Jaegybomb on May 18, 2015 10:58:04 GMT
Outside of rebirth is the disposal window really any smaller for 2 delay cards than 4 delay? They both have 1 turn where they can be hit when drawn. There are cases now and then where it matters but I wouldn't call it horrendously tough.
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Post by DianaTroy [βκ] on May 18, 2015 14:27:09 GMT
Outside of rebirth is the disposal window really any smaller for 2 delay cards than 4 delay? They both have 1 turn where they can be hit when drawn. There are cases now and then where it matters but I wouldn't call it horrendously tough. Maybe if there are no other cards in the hand or you have multiple Disposals ready you can hit 2 timers. 9/10 you aren't going to hit a 2 timer. Add the fact that when she draws into the hand, you have one chance to get Swordmaster, then she's on the field.
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Post by ℜ★Jaegybomb on May 18, 2015 22:37:46 GMT
Wait, even rebirth doesn't matter. The only time 2 delays are any harder to dispose is if a 6 delay was drawn the turn before them.
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