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Post by stargater07 on Apr 10, 2015 6:22:01 GMT
Another week, another bug/exploit - but that's ok as we get cool free downloadable wallpaper!!!! Thanks IGG
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Post by Pyron on Apr 10, 2015 6:50:25 GMT
Yeah, that exploit was just a time bomb. Lot of people using ghost guilds were getting lot of glory/guild points for a couple of deliveries. These guys just increased the scale. Rotten Tomato indeed.
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Post by styxgeist on Apr 10, 2015 7:01:42 GMT
This sort of thing makes me sick to my stomach. I'm glad that the most I've ever paid for this game is a 1 month star subscription, because this basically belittles the value of all other paying members gem contributions
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Post by argamoroth on Apr 10, 2015 7:49:58 GMT
This would have been a thing without the update just people only discovered this after re-release - re-release fixed the old bugs to be fair I had thought of this previously when I was trying to work out the mechanics. It's one of those things that the devs probably would have overlooked due to most of the 1-15 or so man guilds would be a bunch of low deck power/low level players and most of the top players wouldn't have thought to leave their guilds since they got benefits from being in one.
It's not a glitch - it's an exploit IGG need to work fast if they wanna keep me and probably a lot of other players around, there's no way I'm sticking around if they let another guild battle go through without doing something about this even a minimum member count to participate in the battles or like scale the guild rewards based on the number of people in the guild - not hard solutions at all.
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Post by hippot✪NFS on Apr 10, 2015 8:07:20 GMT
This would have been a thing without the update just people only discovered this after re-release - re-release fixed the old bugs to be fair I had thought of this previously when I was trying to work out the mechanics. It's one of those things that the devs probably would have overlooked due to most of the 1-15 or so man guilds would be a bunch of low deck power/low level players and most of the top players wouldn't have thought to leave their guilds since they got benefits from being in one. It's not a glitch - it's an exploit IGG need to work fast if they wanna keep me and probably a lot of other players around, there's no way I'm sticking around if they let another guild battle go through without doing something about this even a minimum member count to participate in the battles or like scale the guild rewards based on the number of people in the guild - not hard solutions at all. I'm not sure about minimum member count as they could all be ghost members. Probably a minimum member count that has to be active during the last 24 hours or sth like that.
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Post by Sephiroth [BK] on Apr 10, 2015 8:43:47 GMT
Oh wow wee. Speechless.
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Post by ÐARҞNESS on Apr 10, 2015 9:52:00 GMT
IGG just cares about making money, even WK did that just to show them their stuff is crap. They just keep implementing things that can be skewed by money.
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Post by Sephiroth [BK] on Apr 10, 2015 9:57:56 GMT
My guild wars is missing....
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Post by Hitmus✪NFS on Apr 10, 2015 10:00:10 GMT
why mikael guild is not in stats?
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Post by ℜ★Naruto on Apr 10, 2015 10:22:44 GMT
why mikael guild is not in stats? He disbanded his guild (and rejoined WK).
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Post by ℜ★Naruto on Apr 10, 2015 10:30:30 GMT
My two cents on this matter.
First of all IGG did try to fix the solo guild somehow, compared to last gw. They tweaked up the rewards that top 3 guilds get much more rewards, while the solo guilds usually between rank 100-300 got their rewards nerfed (much less guild credits but abit more glory afaik). Now there few players in this game that their deck alone is stronger than the rest of DH, those players actually profit from this change (aka killertomatoes).
To put in perspective, guild #1 gets rewarded: ~8M Glory, divided by 50 means 160k glory per player ~2M Credits, divided by 50 means 40k credits per player ~30k Gems, divided by 50 means 600 gems per player
This is solid rewards for being top3 compared to the last gw. I remember finishing #2 with VM and I got like 15k glory, 10k credits, 200 gems orso. So IGG did attempt to fix it but did not expect guilds such as killertomatoes.
Also placing under top100 in guild wars grants you zero gems I heard, and probably less or about the same glory and credits compared to being top 3. I can't confirm the exact details but maybe some guild ranked 250 orso could make a screenshot.
Lastly, it depends how you see this "opportunity", if you are confident you can get more value from being a solo guild, you should do it in my opinion. It's the same as some lawyers try to use "law holes" or specific law strategy to win some cases. Or there is $500 on the ground right in front of you and you are sure its not a trap, would you take the $500? They are giving you (free) advantage for being smarter than the average population, in this case beginning lawyers vs experienced lawyers. There is nothing wrong with this, in most things in life and any games, the pros are always stronger.
I also respect the point of view from stargater that it should be a guild war game. I understand this perfectly but I find my opinion is the more correct one, as written above.
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Post by argamoroth on Apr 10, 2015 12:41:05 GMT
The top 200 Guilds get gem rewards - My guild often finishes between 225 and 150 So I see it swing from gem rewards to not. Still giving out $625+ (based on the screenshot from the other thread) free gems to one guy is pretty crazy - It'll be bad for IGG since players that can do this will never have to pay for gems again, and those will be players in their top 1-2% of spenders There was a screen of his earnings floating on the Guild Wars board and it was 50100 gems 3.3m Guild credits and 13m glory and that was before it even finished I'm not sure how high it got I don't think there's an upper limit on rewards
Don't get me wrong I would have done the same if I had a deck good enough to get me in the top 200 guilds solo or whatever but I don't and even if I did I'd still take the stance that this is an exploit and needs to be fixed. It seems IGG are aware and working to remedy the situation since GW are down yet again
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Post by grzechu✪NFS on Apr 10, 2015 14:33:43 GMT
Speechless...
Thats a one positive aspect for me. Any time my hands will tingle to buys gems, i will remind to myself that video ;-)
Thanks again, stargater, ragnarok!
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Post by bigstab [NFS] on Apr 10, 2015 15:17:42 GMT
My two cents on this matter. First of all IGG did try to fix the solo guild somehow, compared to last gw. They tweaked up the rewards that top 3 guilds get much more rewards, while the solo guilds usually between rank 100-300 got their rewards nerfed (much less guild credits but abit more glory afaik). Now there few players in this game that their deck alone is stronger than the rest of DH, those players actually profit from this change (aka killertomatoes). To put in perspective, guild #1 gets rewarded: ~8M Glory, divided by 50 means 160k glory per player~2M Credits, divided by 50 means 40k credits per player~30k Gems, divided by 50 means 600 gems per playerThis is solid rewards for being top3 compared to the last gw. I remember finishing #2 with VM and I got like 15k glory, 10k credits, 200 gems orso. So IGG did attempt to fix it but did not expect guilds such as killertomatoes. Also placing under top100 in guild wars grants you zero gems I heard, and probably less or about the same glory and credits compared to being top 3. I can't confirm the exact details but maybe some guild ranked 250 orso could make a screenshot. Lastly, it depends how you see this "opportunity", if you are confident you can get more value from being a solo guild, you should do it in my opinion. It's the same as some lawyers try to use "law holes" or specific law strategy to win some cases. Or there is $500 on the ground right in front of you and you are sure its not a trap, would you take the $500? They are giving you (free) advantage for being smarter than the average population, in this case beginning lawyers vs experienced lawyers. There is nothing wrong with this, in most things in life and any games, the pros are always stronger. I also respect the point of view from stargater that it should be a guild war game. I understand this perfectly but I find my opinion is the more correct one, as written above. the guild I was in landed at 219 and was supposed to get 320 gems, but I never saw them
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Post by bigstab [NFS] on Apr 10, 2015 15:21:22 GMT
There is an extremely easy fix to this. Set the guild rewards to x * number of players based on ranking. Say top guild gets 100 per guild member. I know we would all like to make more than that but after the few wars rewarding heavily the p2w crowd its only depend the divide. That guy had an incredible deck before his 50000 gems imagine how hard he is to beat now.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2015 15:23:57 GMT
Wtf?! You have to rank top 200 guild rank to get gems?! Our guild ranked 234 and had 214 gems listed as reward... Why bother showing gems at that point ?
Way to get my hopes up and s*** all over them
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Post by Sephiroth [BK] on Apr 11, 2015 5:54:09 GMT
There is an extremely easy fix to this. Set the guild rewards to x * number of players based on ranking. Say top guild gets 100 per guild member. I know we would all like to make more than that but after the few wars rewarding heavily the p2w crowd its only depend the divide. That guy had an incredible deck before his 50000 gems imagine how hard he is to beat now. Yeah that's a good idea. Make the rewards per actual participant not a lump sump that gets divided between guild members.
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Post by jacobhunterx on Apr 14, 2015 0:13:37 GMT
#PAYDAY!!!
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Post by Hitmus2✪NFS(xerks) on Apr 14, 2015 12:48:14 GMT
Thank you Stargater for opening the eyes of the many. Really appreciate this video.
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Post by tanner23 on Apr 22, 2015 20:44:50 GMT
They need to do another loop exploitation fix. Have a newer account only lvl 47. Finally had a guild let me join last night. I ran couriers and delivered almost 10k. They just dumped me from guild before payoff. So I can start a guild, let a bunch of ppl join, then cupola hours before it ends boot em all out and take rewards. Then repeat for next guild wars.
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