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Post by ℜ★Naruto on Apr 15, 2015 15:22:17 GMT
Originally wanted to keep it private but whatever.
Been spending the last hour figuring out the new guild reward system, I think I nailed it. Conclusion: - All solo guilds are useless. - Guild rewards now favour the f2p and STAR players. - All guild wars are close to useless, rewards are heavily nerfed for top guilds.
I'm 90% sure that the rewards per player are now capped at 15k glory, 5k credits per active participating gw player. Not sure about the gem cap, but should be 250-500.
Maximum glory and credits a guild can earn regardless of their treasures are 750k glory and 250k credits.
Guild wars are now pretty useless for top players, 15k glory and 5k credits is nothing, while this is solid for the f2p+STAR members.
Edit: small chance the rewards are capped at 30k glory / 10k credits, but I doubt it.
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Post by andypk on Apr 15, 2015 15:27:42 GMT
Originally wanted to keep it private but whatever. Been spending the last hour figuring out the new guild reward system, I think I nailed it. Conclusion: - All solo guilds are useless. - Guild rewards now favour the f2p and STAR players. - All guild wars are close to useless, rewards are heavily nerfed for top guilds. I'm 90% sure that the rewards per player are now capped at 15k glory, 5k credits per active participating gw player. Not sure about the gem cap, but should be 250-500. Maximum glory and credits a guild can earn regardless of their treasures are 750k glory and 250k credits. Guild wars are now pretty useless for top players, 15k glory and 5k credits is nothing, while this is solid for the f2p+STAR members. Did you end up getting a ton last war? Or did they block it?
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Post by ℜ★Naruto on Apr 15, 2015 15:43:18 GMT
^Yes, rewards are received normally.
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Post by dbreezy✪NFS on Apr 15, 2015 15:58:20 GMT
Naruto, your vids are by far the best man. Seriously great!
on topic- I'm kinda understand why IGG went this route. If they would have made participation requirements instead (ex: 10 ppl must participate to receive rewards), this would have left out a great majority of lesser powered guilds who only have 8 members or whatever. It's kinda unfortunate that there's no big payday for being at the top, but then again, what did this accomplish anyway? Big paydays mean the rich get richer and their decks become even more stacked. This inevitably would lead to FTP players or low-spenders quitting since the gap is insurmountable. I mean..what happens when you start only facing players with melded 5*s in gauntlet? This is not good for the game and I think IGG knows it.
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Post by ℜ★Naruto on Apr 15, 2015 16:08:32 GMT
Naruto, your vids are by far the best man. Seriously great! on topic- I'm kinda understand why IGG went this route. If they would have made participation requirements instead (ex: 10 ppl must participate to receive rewards), this would have left out a great majority of lesser powered guilds who only have 8 members or whatever. It's kinda unfortunate that there's no big payday for being at the top, but then again, what did this accomplish anyway? Big paydays mean the rich get richer and their decks become even more stacked. This inevitably would lead to FTP players or low-spenders quitting since the gap is insurmountable. I mean..what happens when you start only facing players with melded 5*s in gauntlet? This is not good for the game and I think IGG knows it. I'm not saying that their changes are bad, I was just stating some facts I think the guild wars fix brought us to. But agree, if the rewards are too big, the gap between players will also be too big as you stated yourself. I also think the game will die if they didn't come with a fix. Overall its not bad if you look at it, IGG is giving alot of players ~10k glory, ~4k credits and ~150 gems for FREE, TWICE a week. Freebies are always welcome for the f2p+STAR players Anyways it was fun ride, congrats to everyone who made good use of the opportunity once, twice or maybe even three times. I personally managed to use it two times. I know a few that used it three times I know this topic is going to have many different opinions and I will respect everyone's point of view and I hope you do the same.
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Post by bigstab [NFS] on Apr 15, 2015 18:20:44 GMT
Naruto, your vids are by far the best man. Seriously great! on topic- I'm kinda understand why IGG went this route. If they would have made participation requirements instead (ex: 10 ppl must participate to receive rewards), this would have left out a great majority of lesser powered guilds who only have 8 members or whatever. It's kinda unfortunate that there's no big payday for being at the top, but then again, what did this accomplish anyway? Big paydays mean the rich get richer and their decks become even more stacked. This inevitably would lead to FTP players or low-spenders quitting since the gap is insurmountable. I mean..what happens when you start only facing players with melded 5*s in gauntlet? This is not good for the game and I think IGG knows it. I'm not saying that their changes are bad, I was just stating some facts I think the guild wars fix brought us to. But agree, if the rewards are too big, the gap between players will also be too big as you stated yourself. I also think the game will die if they didn't come with a fix. Overall its not bad if you look at it, IGG is giving alot of players ~10k glory, ~4k credits and ~150 gems for FREE, TWICE a week. Freebies are always welcome for the f2p+STAR players Anyways it was fun ride, congrats to everyone who made good use of the opportunity once, twice or maybe even three times. I personally managed to use it two times. I know a few that used it three times I know this topic is going to have many different opinions and I will respect everyone's point of view and I hope you do the same. They could have also made a system that restricted the top 3 guilds from participating the next tournament. That would have let them spread the love around.
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Post by kakola on Apr 15, 2015 18:34:32 GMT
Overall its not bad if you look at it, IGG is giving alot of players ~10k glory, ~4k credits and ~150 gems for FREE, TWICE a week. Freebies are always welcome for the f2p+STAR players Isn't this pretty much in par with the other rewards in this game (other game modes). I don't think the big spenders were spending only to rule in guild wars (before knowing whats it going to be like).
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Post by Sephiroth [BK] on Apr 16, 2015 2:39:43 GMT
So far I'm ok with everything I've read. It's good that they have evened out the playing field between p2w and f2p. Even though it's nothing major but imo it's a smart move. Even if it is an illusion of being able to maybe compete with p2w players, but meh. What's in the past is gone. Let's just hope its smoothish sailing from here on in.
I received 15k glory and 5k gmc. So that cap could be spot on. If I get that every wars I'm happy.
One thing I didn't notice that was weird and stargater also mentioned this in his vid post, that players/guilds even though we're higher in rankings, had less rewards? Is that due to gaining rewards as the wars proceeds in a certain placing and earning X amount of resources for your spot?
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Post by megapuncher on Apr 16, 2015 2:59:57 GMT
Individual top#9 reporting in. On top of set guild rewards: - 9k glory - 1.8k gmc - 150 gems
So all of that is for 12 hours non-stop carriers creation. Yeah, nice, whatever.
Guild wars now lost competitiveness.
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Post by R✰Slippo on Apr 16, 2015 3:12:41 GMT
VM placed second and got 15k glory 5k credits 220 gems
Looks like there is a cap on glory and credits and Naruto was spot on. How did you figure this out ahead of time? Lol.
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Post by Sephiroth [BK] on Apr 16, 2015 3:28:59 GMT
Top#9 reporting in. On top of set guild rewards: - 9k glory - 1.8k gmc - 150 gems So all of that is for 12 hours non-stop carriers creation. Yeah, nice, whatever. Guild wars now lost competitiveness. Is this for individual rewards? Or was this your actual guild reward? I only spent prob 4 hours on this war because it starts at midnight in Australia. So my individual rewards were down. But it's free s*** for doing bugger all.
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Post by Pyron on Apr 16, 2015 6:31:44 GMT
After that abuse, I think they actually were light on this. It's pretty well leveled. Still it was IGG's fault for not thinking about some limit at the beginning. They lost tons of cash by giving free gems to the top dogs and pissing off the F2P (which are always potential paid customer) and STAR crowd. Everything else is pretty much limited even for big spenders, dunno why they didn't limit this.
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Post by Hitmus2✪NFS(xerks) on Apr 16, 2015 8:58:11 GMT
The major improvement is they cross out the exploits. I feel happy small step at a time.
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Post by ÐARҞNESS on Apr 16, 2015 9:30:54 GMT
I don't really see how the blame falls on those who took advantage of IGG's poor programming skill. They were the ones who released a half baked feature, they paid the price of their own mistakes.
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Post by Sephiroth [BK] on Apr 16, 2015 9:54:39 GMT
The major improvement is they cross out the exploits. I feel happy small step at a time. In other words, tried to do their job properly...
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Post by ℜ★Naruto on Apr 16, 2015 10:20:08 GMT
VM placed second and got 15k glory 5k credits 220 gems Looks like there is a cap on glory and credits and Naruto was spot on. How did you figure this out ahead of time? Lol. Hmm so I was right. As most things I do in real life and gaming, I always try to analyse the situation before I make any (rush) decisions. This is one of my personality, I love analyzing things and evaluate them.
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Post by Hitmus✪NFS on Apr 16, 2015 10:38:01 GMT
VM placed second and got 15k glory 5k credits 220 gems Looks like there is a cap on glory and credits and Naruto was spot on. How did you figure this out ahead of time? Lol. so in theory being 2 instead of 8 as we were, has totaly zero benefits. As we recieved similar rewards.
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Post by Sephiroth [BK] on Apr 16, 2015 10:53:18 GMT
VM placed second and got 15k glory 5k credits 220 gems Looks like there is a cap on glory and credits and Naruto was spot on. How did you figure this out ahead of time? Lol. so in theory being 2 instead of 8 as we were, has totaly zero benefits. As we recieved similar rewards. Top 10 all got same rewards, except obviously 1-2-3
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Post by megapuncher on Apr 16, 2015 11:53:13 GMT
Top#9 reporting in. On top of set guild rewards: - 9k glory - 1.8k gmc - 150 gems So all of that is for 12 hours non-stop carriers creation. Yeah, nice, whatever. Guild wars now lost competitiveness. Is this for individual rewards? Or was this your actual guild reward? I only spent prob 4 hours on this war because it starts at midnight in Australia. So my individual rewards were down. But it's free s*** for doing bugger all.
That was individual rewards.
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Post by Sephiroth [BK] on Apr 16, 2015 12:32:35 GMT
Is this for individual rewards? Or was this your actual guild reward? I only spent prob 4 hours on this war because it starts at midnight in Australia. So my individual rewards were down. But it's free s*** for doing bugger all.
That was individual rewards.
Yeah that's a bit light on for top 10, agreed man
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Post by andypk on Apr 16, 2015 13:34:33 GMT
Is this for individual rewards? Or was this your actual guild reward? I only spent prob 4 hours on this war because it starts at midnight in Australia. So my individual rewards were down. But it's free s*** for doing bugger all.
That was individual rewards.
Individual awards have always been low. This is nothing new. The issue was guild awards where people were taking advantage of guild level amounts of rewards by themselves. Hence the cap. I really don't see how one can complain. People abused a system and got it limited so the system cannot be abused. It's still a decent amount of rewards. I got 6000 guild credits (5k from guild and 1k) from individual. About 20k total glory. And 120 gems. I only was able to get my troops out 3 times. Still managed to earn a little more than my share of the contribution points for the guild. This is a little lower than last time (down about 5k glory). The guild ranked 6 spots higher than last time as well. Pretty much the same amount of rewards though. Firguring eight wars a month, I'm looking at 160k glory, 40k guild credits and a 1000 gems. This is good, people complain to much
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Post by ℜ★Naruto on Apr 16, 2015 16:38:36 GMT
Well since everything is history now, might as well add some pictures. It was super time consuming though, like 6 hours non stop gw grinding. Glad I'm one of the few non-WK who also managed to squeeze out some free stuffs, it was a fun ride.
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Post by megapuncher on Apr 16, 2015 16:52:58 GMT
Nice Naruto!! Gems are meh - but other stuff are sure awesome. Congrats!
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Post by entropy✪NFS on Apr 16, 2015 16:53:48 GMT
Well since everything is history now, might as well add some pictures. It was super time consuming though, like 6 hours non stop gw grinding. Glad I'm one of the few non-WK who also managed to squeeze out some free stuffs, it was a fun ride. Just a tad bit envious, but good job mate! P.S.: Just let me know when you open them so I can Raid away some of your surplus, lol
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Post by Sephiroth [BK] on Apr 17, 2015 2:43:54 GMT
Holy credits batman! Bloody hell man! Well done
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Post by ℜ★Xega on Apr 17, 2015 4:39:08 GMT
Make sure you have your shield up when you open up those glory point Naruto, that's like 3 weeks of raids right there.
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Post by ℜ★Naruto on Apr 17, 2015 14:43:21 GMT
Already used those glory points last week, and yup I had a shield on of course. No freebies from me haha, you got better chances to get them from IGG
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Post by DianaTroy [βκ] on Apr 17, 2015 15:22:58 GMT
There's a very simple answer to how Naruto knew the caps in advance. It's often that the least complicated answer is the correct one.
WK was warned ahead of time.
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