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Post by sickboy254698 on Jun 1, 2017 15:35:54 GMT
Once again I have had it with this game. One can only subject themselves to the total bull$hit that is Deck Heroes for so long.
Let me first say I am a proud P2P player. Screw all you free loaders. F2P players are the biggest whiners and cry babies the world has ever seen. That's actually one of the reasons I started to like this game. The P2P players in Deck Heroes are proud to whip out there credit cards and destroy all who stand in their way. For the sake of credibility I will say that my next purchase of gems will be rewarded with Judgement. You can do the math on how much I've spent. I try not to think about it.
So what's the problem Sickboy? You big P2P loser. The problem is Aqarius, Taurus, Octavius, Druidess, and more recently Hanzo. At low levels this game is full of fun and competition. The higher up the ladder you go the less and less you will see. I have all the kewl kid cards. As I'm sure many of us P2P players do. But without the cards listed above you can't compete at the top in any way in this game.
The stupidity of that is mind boggling. There are hundreds of cards on this game. In fact Deck Heroes has the most unique cards of any mobile CCG I have played. I'm not counting Hearthstone or Magic neither of which were originally mobile games. Yet without the cards listed above, you might as well not even try once you get to the top.
Deck building in this game is a joke. I know every single deck I make has to have at least 1 Retreat QT, 1 Aquarius, 2 melded revivers, and one melded R2. That's 5 out of 9 cards already. Most of the high end players have recycle on Octavius and revive on Ordnance, Plauge Doctor or some other badass card so they dump 4 Aquarius in there deck and call it a day. Again, the stupidity of this blows me away.
Not to mention ************ how to get enough copies of these cards to meld anything onto them? After almost 2 years I have 50 Octavius shards. I'll never get him. Even if I did manage to get 2 of them or a Mortii meld card the meld would fail anyway. I lost over twenty 5 star cards trying to meld my 6th revive onto something. Anything at all. Twenty fuc***** cards. That's ridiculous. 5 Fafnir, 4 or 5 Mimirs Trees, and I can't even remember what else. Again that's total bull$h++!
That's it. I'm done. At least for a few months. I'm sure I'll get sucked back in for the next Fortress Raid or some other stupid event. But for now eat $hit and die Deck Heroes.
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Post by ningthou on Jun 1, 2017 15:51:22 GMT
I agree to what u say about f2p. I am an f2p myself and have never whined about p2p . Bcos p2p players have lost something in return for the pro status they get- that is money . I mean you lose money, one of the most essential things in life and regardless of whether u are a very rich shark or a beggar or whether u have 20000$ to make paper boats with everyday. Its not like a half of pple are freely given strong cards...unless they hack but I wont be pissed even.if they did so. I am always up fod challenges and never run away from 1(unless I give up in disgust and join the hackers). So pple r whining 4 nothing but cos they want to be at the top without doing nothing. Its like wanting to be remembered while u just sit there and do nothing everyday.
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Post by spizz0 on Jun 1, 2017 16:29:48 GMT
Sorry but I don't get this point: In the first part of your post you trashtalked against f2ps who complains against spenders because they can't compete. Then you, as a moderate spender, complain that you can't compete against huge spenders. So what's the difference between you and all of us "free loaders" ?
However, in the last part of you post, you said something which I agree. I HATE YOLO MELDS. Really, I don't see the point of so many luck-based mechanics. (Yeah I never succeeded in yolo melding a 5* in more than 2 years of playing).
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Post by smash00 on Jun 1, 2017 20:04:54 GMT
If somebody spends for 6-12 month star is most likely a f2p player to You... Maybe you should screw yourself before talking bad about people who spend only the amount of money on a game which a normal minded person would do. Normaly a games cost about 40-60$ if I am not mistaken. Maybe 100$.. don't know I bought my last game many years ago. Yeah people are not paying much on the game, becasue it is obvious money grab...
In reality you big p2p spenders and exploiters ruin the whole game. Yeah look in the mirror first... Why should a game developer company make a better game (where you have to think...) if people are putting in s*** load of money to get OP cards, OP heroes... Check momaya ranking. How many people do You see with ranked position in Overall who are low level?!Too many...They wnat OP cards NOW...
Do not misunderstand Me many top spenders think and know the game mehancis by heart and for sure have better sense to card games than Me for example...but clearly some cards were and will be designed to give the biggest p2p players the top position in the game.
So Please do not point on f2p players, becasue in my opinion they have the right to complain for some parts. I consider myself a normal spender as I spent around 40$ so far. Would spend another 40$ in a year if not everything would be around hard money grab... I have good 5* Heroes, have Taurus, have Octavianus...
And do not ask about d..k s...ing from big p2p as well. Maybe they spent 3-5 times more than You and maybe they used their gems better. Yeah most likely got lucky with a very few Yolo meld...
Haa You are proud to "destroy" players with your credit card and you are looking for competition? You want competition. Go find a game where skill is not bought with money and grind your time and mind into it. Show there what you are capable of. Maybe should as well fix some screws in your head...because clearly you know nothing how companies like deck heroes great creator IGG works
Btw I do not even have a credit card. I have a debit card to buy everything I need...
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2017 21:20:24 GMT
I haven't played for that long but I do not like the trend of meta. The mechanics could support wider range of styles but the developers are slowly killing everything that resembles variety. At my level everyone has the same hero and pretty much the same 6-7 cards in deck with the rest depending on what you happen to have. It is all going towards massive direct damage, recycle/revive and hero rage control cards. Empowering of the heroes with equipment (and especially with equipment skills) was a mistake in my opinion. High level matches feel like the creatures themselves matter very little and it is just two heroes smacking each other.
But the cow keeps producing milk so who cares about game balance or interesting mechanics?
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Post by ZanderX10 on Jun 1, 2017 23:11:47 GMT
Meta died because there are 2 over powered aspects. Immunity and direct dmg. Now immunity became a problem first and direct dmg was the anseer but it got out of control. I better answer would have been to either nerf immunity or make cards that had feild control effects that nerfed immunity (the opposite of mithril drone in a sense). The game was never for f2p players. Freemium games want players to spend money and only dangle the download for free because it's like casting a net as opposed to using a hook and line. I also would not consider a person who has spent $40 an actual spender. That's like the entry fee into the club but doesn't cover drinks or a table. I am a (ex)moderate spender. I've bought well over 200k gems in the past 2.5 years. I say moderate because real big fish like op have spent 10x-30x as much. 10x-30x being the operative idea of scaling because whales come in varying sizes and some make others look like scrubs. I'll use rh as an example, they have everything from oversized Tunas to sperm whale Yunas. I also want people to know that the biggest hang up on this game is not money despite it being the obviously strongest advantage, but luck. I know of several top spenders who have spent more trying to get a single card than many ever spend at all. I know a f2p player in my guild who has better cards than I do. I can beat him more often than not but he has more top hitters. Honestly the only reason I can even beat him is because he uses a lvl 6 sa and she doesn't quite cut it. Another lvl on her and he will be legitimately stronger than me and none the poorer. I do feel a bit of salt when he pulls cards that I wish I had been able to pull but I don't fault him as a f2p player. He has just been able to make the (absolute) best out of a game that punishes those who don't support it through monetary means. I do not fault the big spenders either in most cases because they are why the lights are still on. Igg has only made 3 things imo that broke the game as we knew it. Druidess, aquarius, and equipment. Druidess still holds the title for biggest dmg dealer as well as most defensive hero. Aqua does too much and when a player runs 3 you dont win unless you have 3 also. Not menation that those with 3 in one deck typically have druidess too. Lastly, eq. Specifically their skills. The timer, rage, and now dmg manipulation is too over powered. None of these things are in any way at fault of any player at any spending range. The one thing I do fault the biggest spenders is that they do hold the power in their hands to picket changes. But to do so they have to rally together and this game has bred enough competiveness that it won't happen. Again, not technically their fault. If (just using these names for the sake of example) draactore has no objections to the games current state and it's path then he has no reason to boycott and fight for changes even if yuna would be willing to skip events and opportunities for new cards, heroes, etc to bleed igg into finally listening to what he want fixed. Yuna would have to continue to compete or all his work for the past year and a half would be wasted. I feel like I'm rambling but my final take away is, do not fault players for playing the game how they see fit because not everyone has problems with the games current state and blaming an entire group over something as trivial as money is stupid because everyone experiences the same highs and lows in some regard. The problems lie in the games meta but that meta was molded by igg, not the players. Players just use whatever tools are available. If some of those tools are better than others than that's on the tool company.
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Post by asgarth1980 on Jun 2, 2017 0:38:55 GMT
I tot yuna or some rh members can be termed blue whale. (Sperm whale us smaller species ckmpare to the blue whale).. now question is who is the moby dic ?...
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Post by BK✦Singing on Jun 2, 2017 0:50:07 GMT
now question is who is the moby dic ?... That's an insult Last GW I attacked Moby Dik just to take a look at those new cards, and I bumped into Yuna's deck, as expected.
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Post by asgarth1980 on Jun 2, 2017 0:51:53 GMT
now question is who is the moby dic ?... That's an insult Last GW I attacked Moby banana just to take a look at those new cards, and I bumped into Yuna's deck, as expected. it is not an insult... they themselves named their guild as such... declaring they are the biggest whales there ever existed in dh community
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Post by asgarth1980 on Jun 2, 2017 0:54:59 GMT
Back to original complain... well learn to let go man and play as ftp... when u dont put any expectation (money) , what u achieve is beyond expectations... part of reason why i do this game as pure ftp is... outside real world is already placing so much emphasis on money and its rewards... i wanted to enjoy myself virtually without any real monetary involvement...
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Post by kenkabancho on Jun 2, 2017 3:56:46 GMT
If ur next purchase reward is judgement. It means u already bought at least 1million gems. I am curious how come u dont have all that creatures u mention before. May i know how ur spending?
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Post by asgarth1980 on Jun 2, 2017 4:27:28 GMT
It all boils down to luck and gems management... gems management plays a very big part... igg though all the negativity, they do give ftp a chance thru alice bonds... with some good events to go for and avoid bad events, u could end up with good cards... basically gem management... ... just like in real life, we have bankrupt person and some having relatively good life despite same income level... all boils down to resource management
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Post by NFS✪Grandfather on Jun 2, 2017 7:16:35 GMT
Zander have that Yuna syndrome of reply,just look at size of that reply holly shi.. i know that sometime anyone have desire to express hes own thought in fully but writing memoars as reply is epic Sorry to interupt the subject,please go on.
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Post by ningthou on Jun 2, 2017 7:39:18 GMT
I guess they use the keyboard ....and the scotch. Then you have the tendency to go on😂😂😂
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Post by ZanderX10 on Jun 2, 2017 13:03:17 GMT
Zander have that Yuna syndrome of reply,just look at size of that reply holly shi.. i know that sometime anyone have desire to express hes own thought in fully but writing memoars as reply is epic Sorry to interupt the subject,please go on. I have a fair amount to say about players belittling others baded on disposable income. Wether it's a surplus or a deficit.
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Post by NFS✪Grandfather on Jun 2, 2017 13:15:37 GMT
I have a fair amount to say about players belittling others baded on disposable income. Wether it's a surplus or a deficit. All good mate.Im just that person who like simple things so when i see more than 2 lines of words im just like "ok,whatever" so its just my personal attitude nothing else With their bla bla bla stuff here they will do aboslutely nothing to change that what bothers them.But if that is what makes them relaxed then sure why not. One thing is when we all discuss about something which is overall bad in game and something totally different when someone just talk about hes personal problem with certain thing in game...those are 2 different type of "whine". Whoops more than 2 lines,time to put dot here.
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Post by poka on Jun 8, 2017 21:30:59 GMT
I don't know.. . But I got 1 rivve when I am passing map 13 till 15-1 that rivvive was totally out of my deck.. Now all I know that I need 1 paragon and 1 angle prime and 1 supper damage creature.. Should draw in boosters or trying alinace pound.. Or fight in guild map. Guild map needs many alts Many alts to get what you want. It's constant one day you need to do some purchase if not. You well leave the game or sell ur ID. Or you need alooong time to have villa and craft lvl5 gold equipments without bonce skills coz you don't have sparks. In fact it's cool but huge waste. OMG I am asking my self Manny times why do u play this game and I know no way to purchase any thing.. May coz I enjoy with it having some fun.. But about other people they requeste to add new map.
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Post by japoon on Jun 8, 2017 23:15:04 GMT
IGG also complain on its players spending too little!
Why less than 1% getting the 80,000 gems Total Purchase Rewards!! We set the Rewards so attractive and why only a little to get it!!
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Post by skruf85 on Jun 9, 2017 2:46:03 GMT
Hey. I am new on this forum. I both love this game and hate it. I love it because how the game is made, but hate ut because it's really expensive. I usually dont spend any money on this game, but payed for the star thing only for Alice Bond. I am almost level 60 with no really rare creatures. And i have almost never got any good creatures from the booster. Well got some swordmaster and royal Dragon. But there are the 5 creatures??
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Post by monkeylord on Jun 9, 2017 3:01:39 GMT
Hey. I am new on this forum. I both love this game and hate it. I love it because how the game is made, but hate ut because it's really expensive. I usually dont spend any money on this game, but payed for the star thing only for Alice Bond. I am almost level 60 with no really rare creatures. And i have almost never got any good creatures from the booster. Well got some swordmaster and royal Dragon. But there are the 5 creatures?? They way to get the good stuff for free (or star) is playing the third gem mine to the first chest, using all your energy on relics during relic days, alice bonds, and a lot of patience. In a year or so, youll have taurus capricorn, kats, mystic, hippo, etc. Maybe a shrew. Vile is the powerhouse hero to go for.
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Post by barleylime on Jun 9, 2017 14:56:12 GMT
Hey. I am new on this forum. I both love this game and hate it. I love it because how the game is made, but hate ut because it's really expensive. I usually dont spend any money on this game, but payed for the star thing only for Alice Bond. I am almost level 60 with no really rare creatures. And i have almost never got any good creatures from the booster. Well got some swordmaster and royal Dragon. But there are the 5 creatures?? When you have saved up a sizeable amount of gems to sustain buying Alice Bonds, you can spend on Controlled Die during Lost Relics. On average I spend about 400 gems to 500 gems per Lost Relics event. When you're lucky you can pull a full 5-star card. I'm still saving up gems. When I have enough gems to max out Alice Bonds, then I'll spend on the 3rd gem mine. Mine up to the first chest. You need to have patience because you're collecting random 5-star shards one at a time. The 5-star omni shards from Lost Relics can speed up the completion of the 5-star card. I've read many comments that spending on Horns during Faction Wars is also a good investment, if and only if you can win like 6 times in a row and above.
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Post by monkeylord on Jun 9, 2017 15:13:16 GMT
Hey. I am new on this forum. I both love this game and hate it. I love it because how the game is made, but hate ut because it's really expensive. I usually dont spend any money on this game, but payed for the star thing only for Alice Bond. I am almost level 60 with no really rare creatures. And i have almost never got any good creatures from the booster. Well got some swordmaster and royal Dragon. But there are the 5 creatures?? When you have saved up a sizeable amount of gems to sustain buying Alice Bonds, you can spend on Controlled Die during Lost Relics. On average I spend about 400 gems to 500 gems per Lost Relics event. When you're lucky you can pull a full 5-star card. I'm still saving up gems. When I have enough gems to max out Alice Bonds, then I'll spend on the 3rd gem mine. Mine up to the first chest. You need to have patience because you're collecting random 5-star shards one at a time. The 5-star omni shards from Lost Relics can speed up the completion of the 5-star card. I've read many comments that spending on Horns during Faction Wars is also a good investment, if and only if you can win like 6 times in a row and above. in fw you do get shards for horns, but most likely youll be getting arcane knight.
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Post by barleylime on Jun 9, 2017 15:16:54 GMT
When you have saved up a sizeable amount of gems to sustain buying Alice Bonds, you can spend on Controlled Die during Lost Relics. On average I spend about 400 gems to 500 gems per Lost Relics event. When you're lucky you can pull a full 5-star card. I'm still saving up gems. When I have enough gems to max out Alice Bonds, then I'll spend on the 3rd gem mine. Mine up to the first chest. You need to have patience because you're collecting random 5-star shards one at a time. The 5-star omni shards from Lost Relics can speed up the completion of the 5-star card. I've read many comments that spending on Horns during Faction Wars is also a good investment, if and only if you can win like 6 times in a row and above. in fw you do get shards for horns, but most likely youll be getting arcane knight. Arcane Knight shards? That's a bummer. I remember there was a time when players kept getting Taurus shards. Myself have not bought any horns as I am unable to consistently get 10-wins in a row.
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Post by NFS✪Grandfather on Jun 9, 2017 15:20:40 GMT
in fw you do get shards for horns, but most likely youll be getting arcane knight. Arcane Knight shards? That's a bummer. I remember there was a time when players kept getting Taurus shards. Myself have not bought any horns as I am unable to consistently get 10-wins in a row. You can get others rare 5* creature shard he just said that in most cases in all-out attack you will be getting Arcane Knight shards and its true.
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Post by barleylime on Jun 9, 2017 15:28:20 GMT
Arcane Knight shards? That's a bummer. I remember there was a time when players kept getting Taurus shards. Myself have not bought any horns as I am unable to consistently get 10-wins in a row. You can get others rare 5* creature shard he just said that in most cases in all-out attack you will be getting Arcane Knight shards and its true. Yes, I understood what he meant. Was All-Out-Attack always like this? I wish IGG would rotate the 5-star crit. Now is Arcane Knight, then maybe next FW feature Kumiho, and the next FW feature Azure Dragon....
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Post by monkeylord on Jun 9, 2017 15:36:10 GMT
You can get others rare 5* creature shard he just said that in most cases in all-out attack you will be getting Arcane Knight shards and its true. Yes, I understood what he meant. Was All-Out-Attack always like this? I wish IGG would rotate the 5-star crit. Now is Arcane Knight, then maybe next FW feature Kumiho, and the next FW feature Azure Dragon.... original fw did not have all out attack, when it was first introduced, the shards were more randomized, after a couple of fws, they seemed to skew tbe odds toward arcane knight.
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Post by xychant on Jun 9, 2017 15:53:46 GMT
most of the stuff was already said. too much luck based. started again a new game and in every game i have played befor, you get way more with the money spent. normally when you draw 10 at a time or certain amount you get a guarantee. dh have it too but 99pulls is too much.
gems are too expensive. 100 dollar for 9k or so. i am f2p and will now have after ab. 140k. so as f2p you cab compete with time.
mechanic fails..especially the last 6 month. only massspending new cards like raa, diablo ect. the race dont matter:( miasma ect...
balance issues. old cards ect. could use a buff.
what i can complain that some spenders dont use their brain. spent shitton on gems but dont use little.gems to boost exp. while trying to meld.
last but not least. i dont understand how somone can spend ridiculous amount of money on a game like that. can go to hoöiday or buy tousand of real cards
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