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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2015 15:27:52 GMT
many thanks for the reply
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2015 15:35:52 GMT
to recycle using the thalassa? Yes he is farmable so u can easily meld those recycles on better creatures.
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Post by Opethian on Jun 10, 2015 19:30:21 GMT
Yes, check out that thread. Lots of golden info there.
I opted for Swordmaster just to let you know.
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Post by cpthowdy on Jun 10, 2015 19:33:47 GMT
Perhaps combining some recycle threads and then making it a sticky would help. Also do the same for disposal. Just a thought.
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Post by SoaponaRope [BK] on Jun 10, 2015 20:19:00 GMT
Hi all, we got some comments and suggestions to create a Megathread for Recycle since there is a lot of good information on the boards already. I will be moving that information and please feel free to continue any and all discussions on the matter!
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Post by cpthowdy on Jun 13, 2015 17:50:18 GMT
Put recycle on a harbinger since I had enough copies. Hope that dodge and rebirth proc!! Going to sacrifice a goat to the rng gods at midnight game server time! Feel free to join me!!
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Post by voldrox [BK] on Jun 13, 2015 18:17:52 GMT
Put recycle on a harbinger since I had enough copies. Hope that dodge and rebirth proc!! Going to sacrifice a goat to the rng gods at midnight game server time! Feel free to join me!! I put recycle on harbinger today, with soul swap rune its a beast crossing 1000 ATK! I think now with runes its even better than light brave with recyle.! Also put recycle on my swordmaster today. Was a great melding day for me.
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Post by cpthowdy on Jun 13, 2015 18:22:02 GMT
Put recycle on a harbinger since I had enough copies. Hope that dodge and rebirth proc!! Going to sacrifice a goat to the rng gods at midnight game server time! Feel free to join me!! I put recycle on harbinger today, with soul swap rune its a beast crossing 1000 ATK! I think now with runes its even better than light brave with recyle.! Also put recycle on my swordmaster today. Was a great melding day for me. I put fa3 on an Oracle. Tried for life sap 7 on SM but need one more copy. I didn't get lucky! Going to move a soul swap rune from one of my pit minions over to the harbinger.
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Post by voldrox [BK] on Jun 13, 2015 18:26:27 GMT
I put recycle on harbinger today, with soul swap rune its a beast crossing 1000 ATK! I think now with runes its even better than light brave with recyle.! Also put recycle on my swordmaster today. Was a great melding day for me. I put fa3 on an Oracle. Tried for life sap 7 on SM but need one more copy. I didn't get lucky! Going to move a soul swap rune from one of my pit minions over to the harbinger. You will definitely be pleased with soul swap rune on the recycling harbinger!
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Post by cpthowdy on Jun 13, 2015 18:34:48 GMT
I put fa3 on an Oracle. Tried for life sap 7 on SM but need one more copy. I didn't get lucky! Going to move a soul swap rune from one of my pit minions over to the harbinger. You will definitely be pleased with soul swap rune on the recycling harbinger! Just noticed the Dodge and rebirth runes are lvls 4 & 5. Going to add a violence rune to him as well since I probably won't get either of those runes. More atk!!!!
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Post by rafutela✪NFS on Jun 13, 2015 19:04:31 GMT
Since previous 2xmeld day, I couldn't decide between light Brave and Harbinger to meld recycle.
Everything changed when the soul swap rune attacked ...
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2015 23:22:02 GMT
Since previous 2xmeld day, I couldn't decide between light Brave and Harbinger to meld recycle. Everything changed when the soul swap rune attacked ... Why not both?
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Post by rafutela✪NFS on Jun 14, 2015 7:53:07 GMT
Since previous 2xmeld day, I couldn't decide between light Brave and Harbinger to meld recycle. Everything changed when the soul swap rune attacked ... Why not both? Don't Have a 3rd Thalassa since I meld the 1st on HB xD
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Post by DianaTroy [βκ] on Jun 14, 2015 8:02:26 GMT
24 of each creature for a third Thalassa? Pass.
If you need 3 Recycles then you are doing something wrong. Too much of your deck is filled with HBs, LBs or Harbingers and you can lose just by brute force.
I'm having trouble slotting in a 2nd Recycle, never mind a 3rd.
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Post by rafutela✪NFS on Jun 14, 2015 8:28:40 GMT
24 of each creature for a third Thalassa? Pass. If you need 3 Recycles then you are doing something wrong. Too much of your deck is filled with HBs, LBs or Harbingers and you can lose just by brute force. I'm having trouble slotting in a 2nd Recycle, never mind a 3rd. Well IMO a 3rd recycle is for tournament, not for main deck. And yeah, 24 of each for a third is too much for me too.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2015 13:10:52 GMT
Melded one on Horned Beast, wanted to meld the second on Harbinger, but hesitated. Should I go for Swordmaster instead? I only have 2 spare copies of SM, so I'll have to hope for a couple more copies of SM to guarantee the meld.
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Post by Shaddai✪NFS on Jun 14, 2015 13:54:25 GMT
24 of each creature for a third Thalassa? Pass. If you need 3 Recycles then you are doing something wrong. Too much of your deck is filled with HBs, LBs or Harbingers and you can lose just by brute force. I'm having trouble slotting in a 2nd Recycle, never mind a 3rd. I'm farming a 3rd right now. Need 1 of each for tournament...so yeah. I'll meld one onto Dullahan, one onto Horned Beast, and eventually the third onto a Swordmaster.
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Post by vamp on Jun 14, 2015 14:11:33 GMT
24 of each creature for a third Thalassa? Pass. If you need 3 Recycles then you are doing something wrong. Too much of your deck is filled with HBs, LBs or Harbingers and you can lose just by brute force. I'm having trouble slotting in a 2nd Recycle, never mind a 3rd. I'm farming a 3rd right now. Need 1 of each for tournament...so yeah. I'll meld one onto Dullahan, one onto Horned Beast, and eventually the third onto a Swordmaster. I have LB + SM, will eventually go for HB. Slightly regret lb. Imo dullahan is just too good for disposal (also doesn't have good survival vs board).
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Post by voldrox [BK] on Jun 14, 2015 14:39:04 GMT
24 of each creature for a third Thalassa? Pass. If you need 3 Recycles then you are doing something wrong. Too much of your deck is filled with HBs, LBs or Harbingers and you can lose just by brute force. I'm having trouble slotting in a 2nd Recycle, never mind a 3rd. I am farming a 3rd thalassa .. Not necessarily for my main deck, but would be good for tournaments. Then i will have three kinds of recyclers: Tanky Swordmaster recycler Rebirthing Harbinger recyler And in future an immune Horned Beast recycler. In a single deck they can counter all sorts of damage. Swordmaster from physical and magic attack, Harbinger can be killed for sacrifice, and Horned Beast can survive all sorts of lock down and keep recycling. Spider queen is my dream recycler, but farming 4 copies of her would be just too much.
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Post by Shaddai✪NFS on Jun 14, 2015 14:49:07 GMT
I'm farming a 3rd right now. Need 1 of each for tournament...so yeah. I'll meld one onto Dullahan, one onto Horned Beast, and eventually the third onto a Swordmaster. I have LB + SM, will eventually go for HB. Slightly regret lb. Imo dullahan is just too good for disposal (also doesn't have good survival vs board). The stoneskin + rebirth is why I want it on Dullahan. I can leave him in my hand until I need to play him and not worry about disposal and get back a crucial card I need. (say the other recycle card.) For arena, I would just use Horned Beast + Swordmaster since I cannot control it. But anytime I have control I think Dullahan + Situational would be ideal.
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Post by DianaTroy [βκ] on Jun 14, 2015 15:14:52 GMT
Yeah I forgot about Tournament. What a waste of a mode, they could have done so much more but they wimped out.
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Post by vamp on Jun 14, 2015 16:27:54 GMT
I have LB + SM, will eventually go for HB. Slightly regret lb. Imo dullahan is just too good for disposal (also doesn't have good survival vs board). The stoneskin + rebirth is why I want it on Dullahan. I can leave him in my hand until I need to play him and not worry about disposal and get back a crucial card I need. (say the other recycle card.) For arena, I would just use Horned Beast + Swordmaster since I cannot control it. But anytime I have control I think Dullahan + Situational would be ideal. My only problem with that is if you keep dullahan in hand for too long then your graveyard can become full enough that you can't guarantee recycling the other recycler. Especially cos dullahan is fairly likely to only get 1/2 recycles off.
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Post by Shaddai✪NFS on Jun 14, 2015 16:33:02 GMT
The stoneskin + rebirth is why I want it on Dullahan. I can leave him in my hand until I need to play him and not worry about disposal and get back a crucial card I need. (say the other recycle card.) For arena, I would just use Horned Beast + Swordmaster since I cannot control it. But anytime I have control I think Dullahan + Situational would be ideal. My only problem with that is if you keep dullahan in hand for too long then your graveyard can become full enough that you can't guarantee recycling the other recycler. Especially cos dullahan is fairly likely to only get 1/2 recycles off. You have 2 Recyclers though right. So Ideally you keep Dullahan in your hand until you need to get your other recycler back. You play swordmaster to fuel your recycle and get all your dudes back...once she dies you slam Dullahan to get her back. Hopefully he just rebirths and sits in your hand after he dies, if not Swordmaster should take care of it. (She should get several recycles going.) That's my intent anyway. As I mentioned for Arena, I'll likely just use Swordmaster and Horned Beast since I can't control that factor.
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Post by vamp on Jun 14, 2015 20:49:49 GMT
My only problem with that is if you keep dullahan in hand for too long then your graveyard can become full enough that you can't guarantee recycling the other recycler. Especially cos dullahan is fairly likely to only get 1/2 recycles off. You have 2 Recyclers though right. So Ideally you keep Dullahan in your hand until you need to get your other recycler back. You play swordmaster to fuel your recycle and get all your dudes back...once she dies you slam Dullahan to get her back. Hopefully he just rebirths and sits in your hand after he dies, if not Swordmaster should take care of it. (She should get several recycles going.) That's my intent anyway. As I mentioned for Arena, I'll likely just use Swordmaster and Horned Beast since I can't control that factor. If you draw sm late. eg. (not even worst-case) you have 5 creatures in g-yard, sm goes down, recycles 3 while 2 more die, sm dies => 5 creatures in graveyard still. dullahan recycles two, only a 40% to get sm back. The later you draw sm (eg. 6/7 cards already in graveyard) the worse it gets. This is my problem with holding recycles/disposals, sometimes you just need board presence. EDIT: I don't want to say it's a bad idea at all, just my perspective on it
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Post by megapuncher on Jun 20, 2015 17:44:47 GMT
Horned Beast with Recycle 1 was a WORST meld I did in this game - and it was my 2nd meld in game many months ago. Maybe (MAYBE) it does work OK on lower competition levels (arena, tournament, etc) - but not on higher levels (at least for me). Maybe it is good in Faen decks.
My HB with recycle 1 lives exactly 2 turns about 98% of all battles. Then it gets eaten through direct damage (seems like his dodge is non-existent), assassinate/picking off, etc. Best part of HB is Immunity, but HP is ridiculously low. When my HB is taken out in 2 turns and is not coming back, and my opponent's Harbinger returns back or Twins defense skill procs every goddamn time - just sad.
I will meld recycle off of the HB onto Harbinger with my eyes closed and strong heart. My Light Brave with Recycle outperforms HB 100% all the time and usually 1 choice of a recycle card.
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Post by Somar [BK] on Jun 20, 2015 18:19:07 GMT
I have another thread where i pointed the exact same thing.
Horned Beast is godly in the hands of the AI and average in ours because the player always gets screwed over proc rates
I wouldn't meld the recycle away because i bet ur opponents in tournament get anoyed by ur hb recycler everytime.
And yes, it's much better in a faen deck, specially if ur runing demon hunter because entangle + immunity makes an awesome combo.
Still if I had to rank melded recyclers disregarding faction this is my rank:
1. Swordmaster 2. Horned beast 3. Light Brave 4. Harbinger
Someone else might have different experiences though.
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Post by SoaponaRope [BK] on Jun 20, 2015 19:17:55 GMT
I disagree and am extremely happy with my Horned Beasts but that's just me.
When you guys talk about "in the hands of AI" does that also mean in Arenas?
Also, when we're talking about lasting 2 rounds is that also in arenas/tourny or is that in more controlled areas? In Tourny, Arenas, Gauntlet, etc. you're consistantly bombarded with Disposals. The fact that HB makes it onto the fields in these fights already sets him above Thalassa, Lightbrave or Harbinger. Yes, Swordmaster can get in there but in any sort of lockdown deck she serves less purpose.
I guess if you thought HB was going to go in there tanking and ripping apart everything then no it doesn't always happen, but I have had insane Gauntlet fights where my 1 HB lasted 50 rounds. I guess its just the RNG. I'd trade that for some 5-star creatures though because my RNG with draws is apparently god awful.
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Post by fani on Jun 20, 2015 20:43:25 GMT
It depends on the sight of the factions.
I also melded my HB with Recycle 1. My main deck was a Mortii deck. Thalassa made some good combinations with that deck. He also was (compared to HB) a HP-tank. While Thalassa survives one good hit, this hit could be the last one for HB. The skills wouldn't make HB so much better. => HB made my main deck worse. (not in the top 100 of my Arena)
But I built a pure Magic deck with DH (+ some nice runes). It became so much stronger with recycler HB.
My next 2 recycle melds will be: Harbinger Swordmaster
I will meld Light Brave with Disposal. Please no comments to that idea. Not necessary.
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Post by mingying on Jun 21, 2015 2:46:27 GMT
I would think that hb is very nice carrier of recycle, but my hb gets disposed like 70% of the time despite immunity 7 anyway... So i tend to pick lb or harb
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