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Post by dhinstructables on Jun 2, 2016 12:46:02 GMT
{S} and {D} Revive are a bit overrated. Recycle is a better alternative in general. In theory, I totally would agree with you; as well as for a Main Deck. But in the "Real World" in the game, it isn't an option for every player.
For example in Tourney where you will have 3 decks, a lot of players will only have 3 (maybe 4) Recyclers and most will have 0 Revive other than {S} or {D}.
For players like that, it is much better to run 3 decks with 1x Recycler and 1x {S}/{D}Revive vs. just running 1x Recycler in each.
For those lucky/gem-rich enough to have 3 Recyclers and 3 Revivers, congrats!
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Post by BK✦GamerGurl33 on Jun 27, 2016 20:52:39 GMT
Hi, I need some insights on my 3rd rec1 meld. I run main mortii deck with Wight, have 2xHB rec1, should I meld the 3rd one on HB, o it's better to meld it on Dullahan as I have few mortii meld IV. Thanx in advance. If you haven't already done your meld, I would recommend Harbinger if you have enough copies. I think he is the best 4* Mortii Recycler. Until I started getting 5* heroes and he was nerfed in Guild Maps, Wight was always my main hero and I used a mostly Mortii deck. He's still the main hero for my f2p alt account, and while my main account uses him sometimes as well, GG33's main hero now is Armageddon. Armageddon is also Mortii, but if you get Protection and other non-faction specific talents on a 5* hero, it doesn't matter much what faction your other cards are. My first Recycle meld was HB, but I felt I wanted and needed a Mortii recycler, so I got Harbinger as my second one. I've been extremely happy with my Recycle Harbinger. Soul Swap 6 and Dodge 6 give him good offensive and defensive skills and neither Mythril locking down Soul Swap nor Spiky Bits seem to be that much of a problem, since he can still Recycle. Rebirth 6, unless he's disposed, allows him to bounce right back most of the time after he dies. I recently got enough Dullahans to consider moving Recycle from Harbinger to him due to his Stoneskin. However, he only has Rebirth 5 so he'll come back from death less often, and since his other skill is Battleblow 5, it just seems like overall he's not as good a fit for Recycle as Harbinger is. A couple of months ago, I moved Recycle from my Swordmaster to The Twins, so I do have one Stoneskin Recycler. I'm very happy that I did that because he's able to stay on the board longer and has much stronger attack skills than SM. My main account has four Recyclers: HB and Light Brave with Recycle 2, and Harbinger and The Twins with Recycle 1. I also have Oinari who has (S) Revive. My alt account which is totally f2p has two Recycle 1 melded cards, both HB's. I wanted one of them to be a Harbinger, but had not been able to get enough copies. However, the two HB's work fine with my Wight deck, as long as I make sure to include enough other Mortii crits. The best thing about having two HB Recyclers is that when played together their double Mass Heal makes your whole board that much stronger. It's kind of a gamble since they may both die together and then one can't bring the other one back, so I decide whether to play them together or not on a situational basis.
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Post by BK✦GamerGurl33 on Jun 27, 2016 21:14:02 GMT
{S} and {D} Revive are a bit overrated. Recycle is a better alternative in general. While I'm sure all of us would prefer having unlimited Revive rather than just a single one, I think it can have its place in a deck along with Recyclers. The best thing about Revive vs Recycle is that even if single you get a card back on the board immediately instead of having to wait for it to come up in the queue and go through it's wait time. Both Oinari and Fae Firstborn have Rebirth and Oinari has Rebirth 10, so at least there's a pretty good chance that they're going to do their do their single Revive and be back quickly to do it again. For that reason, I'd rather meld them if possible, instead of melding their Revive away. I have Oinari and I keep her rune levels low so that she will die relatively quickly and keep coming back again and again.
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Post by ℜ★Jaegybomb on Jun 27, 2016 21:28:11 GMT
With Paragons seeing play it takes a few tries to get a recycle or revive off. It takes even more tries to get a rebirth off. Most of the time a Firstborn is just going to pass through the battlefield doing nothing. Firstborn can act as a cheap substitute until you can get 2 recycles each for 2 of your tourney decks but that should be the goal. I wouldn't recommend anyone spend ore on Oinari. There are way better uses.
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Post by rhinny on Jul 2, 2016 3:58:28 GMT
Hey all, I have a question that I hope some of you guys can answer. So, I have two Thalassa's that I'm looking to meld off...third one isn't gonna come by any time soon. My thought process was melding recycle onto Light Brave and Harbinger and hopefully when I have enough copies of Horned Beast, I'll have a third Thalassa or...just maybe, Hippolyta (wishing). At the moment I have 4 extra copies of LB and Harbinger and only two copies of HB. I could always get some meld cards but, I don't know why I want to hold off on the HB for a possible recycle 2. Thoughts?
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Post by ℜ★Jaegybomb on Jul 2, 2016 4:04:51 GMT
HB isn't that tough to farm. The way things have been going you can get 6 between meld days.
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Post by rhinny on Jul 5, 2016 1:58:34 GMT
Haha, what a waste. I decided to save my HB for meld day and meld my harbinger and LB today. Harbinger took 3 tries...LB took 4 copies and 4 copies of meld cards....8 cards wasted...hahahaha
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Post by Yuna on Jul 5, 2016 2:15:56 GMT
Haha, what a waste. I decided to save my HB for meld day and meld my harbinger and LB today. Harbinger took 3 tries...LB took 4 copies and 4 copies of meld cards....8 cards wasted...hahahaha Why would you waste Meld Cards on a creature that can be farmed through literally every single method that drops 4-star creatures (Exploring notwithstanding)?!
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Post by rhinny on Jul 5, 2016 2:26:35 GMT
Haha, not quite farmable for me but...let's just say, impulsiveness and desire overruled any form of control as I kept thinking the next one would be it. All I wanted was that second recycle creature. Plus, I'm still a new player and still learning on what to do and what not to do...clearly this was one that I shouldn't have done.
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Post by nowar on Jul 11, 2016 3:28:09 GMT
Hi, I need some insights on my 3rd rec1 meld. I run main mortii deck with Wight, have 2xHB rec1, should I meld the 3rd one on HB, o it's better to meld it on Dullahan as I have few mortii meld IV. Thanx in advance. If you haven't already done your meld, I would recommend Harbinger if you have enough copies. I think he is the best 4* Mortii Recycler. Until I started getting 5* heroes and he was nerfed in Guild Maps, Wight was always my main hero and I used a mostly Mortii deck. He's still the main hero for my f2p alt account, and while my main account uses him sometimes as well, GG33's main hero now is Armageddon. Armageddon is also Mortii, but if you get Protection and other non-faction specific talents on a 5* hero, it doesn't matter much what faction your other cards are. My first Recycle meld was HB, but I felt I wanted and needed a Mortii recycler, so I got Harbinger as my second one. I've been extremely happy with my Recycle Harbinger. Soul Swap 6 and Dodge 6 give him good offensive and defensive skills and neither Mythril locking down Soul Swap nor Spiky Bits seem to be that much of a problem, since he can still Recycle. Rebirth 6, unless he's disposed, allows him to bounce right back most of the time after he dies. I recently got enough Dullahans to consider moving Recycle from Harbinger to him due to his Stoneskin. However, he only has Rebirth 5 so he'll come back from death less often, and since his other skill is Battleblow 5, it just seems like overall he's not as good a fit for Recycle as Harbinger is. A couple of months ago, I moved Recycle from my Swordmaster to The Twins, so I do have one Stoneskin Recycler. I'm very happy that I did that because he's able to stay on the board longer and has much stronger attack skills than SM. My main account has four Recyclers: HB and Light Brave with Recycle 2, and Harbinger and The Twins with Recycle 1. I also have Oinari who has (S) Revive. My alt account which is totally f2p has two Recycle 1 melded cards, both HB's. I wanted one of them to be a Harbinger, but had not been able to get enough copies. However, the two HB's work fine with my Wight deck, as long as I make sure to include enough other Mortii crits. The best thing about having two HB Recyclers is that when played together their double Mass Heal makes your whole board that much stronger. It's kind of a gamble since they may both die together and then one can't bring the other one back, so I decide whether to play them together or not on a situational basis. Hi Dude, I ve seen lots players are having another F2P alternate account and they actually play it quite often like the main one. Can I ask you, why do you have another F2P account when you can play with your main account. Is it just because of fun or is there any interchangable items beween accounts. Such as passing energy/gems/etc... from F2P account into your main account? Cheers mate!
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Post by ℜ★Jaegybomb on Jul 11, 2016 4:06:10 GMT
Mostly guild contribution and guild map damage.
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Post by nowar on Jul 11, 2016 5:17:33 GMT
Mostly guild contribution and guild map damage. Oh, so you mean, Alternate accounts are used to send energy and contribute to the Guild maps while not collecting any creature cards (and letting main account take all)? Hmmm, that make sense. Thanks Jaegy
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Post by ℜ★Jaegybomb on Jul 11, 2016 6:30:55 GMT
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Post by CochiseAI on Feb 12, 2017 20:16:00 GMT
I keep seeing rec Twins nowadays. It has Stoneskin and is farmable from gmap, but why? Anyways, back on topic, I think rec Fafnir could be a good option too, but high cost and being 5* mean it'd be better to be melded with Revive.
Horned Beast still wins forbeing newbie-friendly, and having i7, dodge, Mass Heal. I have seen it restore its health from below 200 to full health in a battle. It can evade Death Curse too.
P.S. I'd rather keep Dullahan copies for D Revive. That card dies fast, and has Stoneskin and Rebirth, a good combo for die-and-revive builds.
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Post by barleylime on Mar 7, 2017 8:26:30 GMT
IGG should make a Recycle rune. The rune will give a percentage to bypass Torment. For example, at level 1 = 2%, and at level 10 = 20%. The chance to succeed should not be high as we don't want to make this skill bypass Torment every round, making Torment useless. This would make Recycle being able to do something that Revive cannot, which is to pull out a card from a sealed Graveyard. Then players would need to balance whether to have more Recycle, or more Revive in the deck.
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Post by ZanderX10 on Mar 7, 2017 8:41:13 GMT
IGG should make a Recycle rune. The rune will give a percentage to bypass Torment. For example, at level 1 = 2%, and at level 10 = 20%. The chance to succeed should not be high as we don't want to make this skill bypass Torment every round, making Torment useless. This would make Recycle being able to do something that Revive cannot, which is to pull out a card from a sealed Graveyard. Then players would need to balance whether to have more Recycle, or more Revive in the deck. or just a make eq with salvage...
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Post by scap on Aug 5, 2017 9:16:57 GMT
Hello,
Thank you for this thread ! Why is it not recommended to meld Dahlia recycle on Horned Beast ?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2017 15:53:46 GMT
Hello, Thank you for this thread ! Why is it not recommended to meld Dahlia recycle on Horned Beast ? Who wrote that? I see lots of HB's with rec2. Surely a 5 star like Octavius is a much better carrier. But it might take a while before if you have enough copies. If any.
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Post by scap on Aug 5, 2017 16:09:44 GMT
It's on the first page : - Dahlia (Recycle 2) - Found in Lucky Spin.
It is not recommended that you meld Dahlia's Recycle 2 unless you have extremely high-end cards to meld it onto.
As you say, there are surely better 5* carriers (like Octavius which I would probably never get) but melding is too risky on 5*.. Is it a waste to meld my only Dahlia on HB ? I don't use really use Dahlia..
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Post by BK✦Singing on Aug 5, 2017 16:19:08 GMT
Hello, Thank you for this thread ! Why is it not recommended to meld Dahlia recycle on Horned Beast ? I already made one, OMG...
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Post by Koloi on Aug 5, 2017 16:31:35 GMT
Back when he made this recommendation, it may made sense.
I think even the top guys barely used melded 5stars and todays midtourney players would have been Yuna like.
But since everyone runs Rqts today, u should for sure meld rec2 away from Dahlia or Hippo. QT or HB are very decent options.
U can meld it to a 5 star later anyways.
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Post by scap on Aug 5, 2017 21:17:59 GMT
Thank you for your answer but sorry, what does Rqts and QT mean ?
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Post by spizz0 on Aug 5, 2017 21:24:39 GMT
Thank you for your answer but sorry, what does Rqts and QT mean ? QT = Queen Temptress RQT = Retreat Queen Temptress
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Post by scap on Aug 6, 2017 9:47:01 GMT
Ok Thanks !
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Post by barleylime on Sept 23, 2017 9:28:56 GMT
I have the following 1 x HB Rec 1 1 x HB Rec 2 1 x QT Rec 1 1 x QT Rec 2 1 x Harb Rec 1
I have just unlocked another Thalassa. Not sure which crit to meld Recycle to. I have tried Swordmaster in the past but not too fond of it. I'm thinking of melding onto Abaddon to put into my Wraith Hunter deck. Any thoughts or ideas?
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Post by ℒ✰pr0n on Sept 23, 2017 11:44:34 GMT
Have many multiples of 5* creatures? For 4* it's pretty much Queen Temptress, Horned Beast, Harbringer, Light Brave...occasionally you'll see something different here and there. Are you capable (or close to) having a revive you could put on Abaddon? It may not live there forever but it's a great place to put it in a WH deck.
If you're not close to a Revive then yes not a bad place, though it's difficult to recommend without knowing what your other possible choices are.
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Post by barleylime on Sept 23, 2017 20:06:27 GMT
I have a Revive in the process of melding to Mimir Tree.
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Post by n4k3dm1k3 on Sept 26, 2017 15:12:33 GMT
I have the following 1 x HB Rec 1 1 x HB Rec 2 1 x QT Rec 1 1 x QT Rec 2 1 x Harb Rec 1 I have just unlocked another Thalassa. Not sure which crit to meld Recycle to. I have tried Swordmaster in the past but not too fond of it. I'm thinking of melding onto Abaddon to put into my Wraith Hunter deck. Any thoughts or ideas? We had been discussing this in a seperate thread, but you could consider Niddhogg or Twins - especially if you have Taurus. If you have lots of farmable 5* revive options, but lack the revives to meld onto them recycle could be decent. HB is still tops, I have one in each tourney deck. QT is good too (recently moved my Harbs recycle there). My Nidd is very strong in a neander deck. Abaddon seems like he needs some support to be good - perhaps 1 recycle/revive Nidd + recycle Abaddon could be OK as a combo
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Post by revenant on Jan 15, 2018 11:05:02 GMT
I have just gotten a Dahlia. I have no HB right now, and instead of farming them I think I could go with Fafnir, as I already have 2 and no problem in farming them through guild... do you think it is a good option? Btw, I have no revivers, and far from getting any.
A second question: I see many talking against Oinari, but would that be possible (and not so bad) having a +[d] melded revive Oinari (I can also have a firstborn in little time) as a poor man's reviver?
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Post by dendeze on Jan 15, 2018 11:48:20 GMT
Fafnir is a good choice, but is prefered as a revive carrier. I have a Oinari with revive (as a temp till i can put it on something better) Not That good, tought it would be nice on here, when she enters, 2 crit are revived , she dies and comes back and the cycle continues... But paragon kinde kills the purpose
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