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Post by Hitmus✪NFS on Sept 11, 2015 6:29:56 GMT
Hi i just started tricky thread Base on tournament we can set top5 guilds?. 1. ROYAL - 24 members 2. WK - 19 members 3. GC - 7 members 4. NFS - 6 members 5. PH - 4 members. All undercover were not counted Please correct me if I am wrong.
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Post by mortivore on Sept 11, 2015 7:50:02 GMT
MV got at least 6 members, might be more since i dont know everyone. Can be some other guilds that dont use tags as well.
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Post by ℜ★Naruto on Sept 11, 2015 11:52:03 GMT
Did you include Rockstar Kimowd to ℜoyal?
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Post by ℜ★Trun on Sept 11, 2015 12:17:43 GMT
Those MV guys are hard to spot since they are tagless but definitely a guild you can't forget about if you want to rank guilds
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Post by ℳarty on Sept 11, 2015 13:29:59 GMT
Did you include Rockstar Kimowd to ℜoyal? LOL
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Post by ℜ★Xega on Sept 11, 2015 15:40:50 GMT
Shouldn't guild rank be measured by avg tourney ranking per player?
And percent of total players measured by ranking.
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Post by sonbalin on Sept 11, 2015 15:59:57 GMT
Shouldn't guild rank be measured by avg tourney ranking per player? And percent of total players measured by ranking. I think assigning a value to tournament ranks (rank 1 =9999, rank 9999=1) and then ranking the guilds by their total 'value' would work better. If you start using averages and accounting for lower numbers of players in guilds then it opens the system up to exploits - One man guilds would be higher ranked than full guilds etc.
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Post by pinpin on Sept 11, 2015 18:26:40 GMT
If were looking to see who the top guilds are it would be better to come up with a set criteria. Take into account guild activities(Guild battle rankings) as well as individual member performance(tournament, arena,events such as sky arena....etc.).
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Post by countzero on Sept 11, 2015 18:39:14 GMT
If were looking to see who the top guilds are it would be better to come up with a set criteria. Take into account guild activities(Guild battle rankings) as well as individual member performance(tournament, arena,events such as sky arena....etc.). I think enjoyment of the game and not taking it too seriously could be in there too. The Nameless ftw
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Post by rainman2412✪NFS on Sept 11, 2015 18:46:06 GMT
Impossible exercise to do, but definitely a juicy source of conversations. Kind of like ranking the best rock and roll band/song, everyone will have a different criteria (and everyone else but you will be wrong .
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Post by ℜ★Naruto on Sept 11, 2015 18:46:08 GMT
If were looking to see who the top guilds are it would be better to come up with a set criteria. Take into account guild activities(Guild battle rankings) as well as individual member performance(tournament, arena,events such as sky arena....etc.). How can we forget such important thing such as guild battle into the top guild rankings list!
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Post by ℜ★Trun on Sept 11, 2015 18:50:05 GMT
Taking guild battles into Considerstion is a bit much for a few reasons..one it's not a sign of strength just what guilds have members with the most free time..also it favors guilds with 50 members over small guilds...not to mention it also favors players in the USA hours as the majority of the war happens during the night for euro players
Also don't forget tourny is a guild effort as well since alot of your tourny strength comes from helping your guild mates getting the cards they need and helping each other build bettr decks..tourny is not a solo effort
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Post by pinpin on Sept 11, 2015 19:21:54 GMT
Impossible exercise to do, but definitely a juicy source of conversations. Kind of like ranking the best rock and roll band/song, everyone will have a different criteria (and everyone else but you will be wrong . lol....I totally agree. I guess it all boils down to wether you enjoy being in your guild or not. Most guilds have different concepts and approaches toward the game. With that said....The Nameless ftw!
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Post by Somar [BK] on Sept 11, 2015 19:39:09 GMT
As are as I'm concerned the ranks go:
1 - Royal . . . . . Every other guild.
No disrespect intended to anyone.
I simply don't evaluate success by rankings alone.
Guild structure and organization play important parts as well.
No other guild comes anywhere near Royal when it comes to the growth they achieved both individually and as a group. From the begining of DH up until now they are by far the ones that improved the most.
At this point the only guild in game I would consider joining other than my current guild.
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Post by ℳarty on Sept 11, 2015 20:13:00 GMT
As are as I'm concerned the ranks go: 1 - Royal . . . . . Every other guild. No disrespect intended to anyone. I simply don't evaluate success by rankings alone. Guild structure and organization play important parts as well. No other guild comes anywhere near Royal when it comes to the growth they achieved both individually and as a group. From the begining of DH up until now they are by far the ones that improved the most. At this point the only guild in game I would consider joining other than my current guild. So sweet. Thanks Somar
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Post by FuFuurin on Sept 11, 2015 21:14:52 GMT
Heartless has 3 to 5 , but yeah... no enforced tag.
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Post by ℜ★Jaegybomb on Sept 12, 2015 3:42:04 GMT
We have Kendora and Taters.
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Post by ℜ★Jaegybomb on Sept 12, 2015 4:24:04 GMT
Also trials might be more indicative since they give more incentive to do well. The difference between 50 and 200 isn't much in tourney but the difference in trials not only in gems/shards but exp too is huge.
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Post by Hitmus✪NFS on Sept 12, 2015 12:04:56 GMT
GW are not important. Arena are not important. Only real value is in tournament. Question is how to measure it. But whatever measurement is all guilds should have some logo. I guess royal doing nice things. So respect to them. Even wk are huge players seems royal are better as team. All other are little far away. But this is only mine opinion and personal observation. we hope to fight for top3 as top 2 are not touchable. greetings to all guilds.
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Post by FuFuurin on Sept 12, 2015 13:04:50 GMT
GW are not important. Arena are not important. Only real value is in tournament. Question is how to measure it. But whatever measurement is all guilds should have some logo. I guess royal doing nice things. So respect to them. Even wk are huge players seems royal are better as team. All other are little far away. But this is only mine opinion and personal observation. we hope to fight for top3 as top 2 are not touchable. greetings to all guilds. Heartless is the original third place. We'll gonna try to reclaim it
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Post by Hitmus✪NFS on Sept 12, 2015 15:26:25 GMT
Nice, good competition is sth cool always. Try to show yourself properly . Ah trial now is also good source of rank. So tournament and trial together can show sth maybe we can do some unofficial rank together but very basic rule needed. And also guild shoukd do propel logo naming to it will be clear. Easy case numer of players top 100 tournament and trial top50. More difficult can take into consideration place. But place quite Dinamic. I mean nothing complicated is good. Just sth easy can bring fun and some rank.
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Post by $$$ has tournament influence on Sept 12, 2015 17:16:00 GMT
Remember that most WK players / Whales uses 10 tournament tries everyday while the majority has 5. So the rankings are abit skewy up there, just alittle bit.
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Post by DianaTroy [βκ] on Sept 12, 2015 19:49:49 GMT
Remember that most WK players / Whales uses 10 tournament tries everyday while the majority has 5. So the rankings are abit skewy up there, just alittle bit. A lot of the members of the top Guilds buy Gems while claiming to be f2p. What's the point of paying and being ashamed to admit it? I have to echo Somar [BK]'s earlier sentiment and say Royal is the top Guild, both in terms of success and overall model. I wouldn't even consider applying to any other Guild but Royal if I wanted to rejoin the grind of top Guilds.
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Post by Hitmus✪NFS on Sept 12, 2015 21:24:39 GMT
Money are money. It's live. But some proofed that without that also top is available. Tournament and trial. Some royal said to be top1 tournament as f2p. And I was many times top1 trial ealier. So money or not all is possible with guild help.
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Post by DianaTroy [βκ] on Sept 13, 2015 1:19:06 GMT
To be honest there is no real way to measure the strength of an entire Guild.
Most Guilds have multiple Guilds in their control with their membership spread between them.
Not every Guild has the same goals either. Most try and clear Maps and distribute 5*s (with mixed results) but others are focused more on fun and social interaction.
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Post by pinpin on Sept 13, 2015 2:52:14 GMT
To be honest there is no real way to measure the strength of an entire Guild. Most Guilds have multiple Guilds in their control with their membership spread between them. Not every Guild has the same goals either. Most try and clear Maps and distribute 5*s (with mixed results) but others are focused more on fun and social interaction. Well said. My guild is one of those that are geared more towards fun and social interaction. My opinion is that as long as your having fun and enjoying the game then that's all that matters. Although it is fun watching the top guilds duke it out....lol
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Post by DianaTroy [βκ] on Sept 13, 2015 3:07:24 GMT
To be honest there is no real way to measure the strength of an entire Guild. Most Guilds have multiple Guilds in their control with their membership spread between them. Not every Guild has the same goals either. Most try and clear Maps and distribute 5*s (with mixed results) but others are focused more on fun and social interaction. Well said. My guild is one of those that are geared more towards fun and social interaction. My opinion is that as long as your having fun and enjoying the game then that's all that matters. Although it is fun watching the top guilds duke it out....lol I have been a founder of both a top-ranked Guild and a social Guild that is now closer to a "Family" than a Guild. Each has their pros and cons and they are different enough that whatever kind of player you are, you will find what you are looking for. I'm all for competition, but we need a true measuring stick for Guilds in Deck Heroes. You can blame the community for ruining the best shot we had at one, Guild Battles. It was always a simple fix, but IGG dropped the ball trying to balance it. All they had to do was divide the rewards by 50, regardless of how many members the Guild had, and the p2w crowd wouldn't have broken the Mode.
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Post by Hitmus✪NFS on Sept 13, 2015 5:51:01 GMT
Family guild is family guild. Like family car show. But also we have f1 race tournament and nobody doing comparison of favorite nice personal to f1 race. But race is race. Somebody is first somebody can be second. Competition is always nice. Now base on my opinion only tournament and trial are sth measurable only guild have logo like wk royal and on. I guess nobody has time to do complex rank. But easy sum of players top100 tournament and trial is very easy and showing sth real. Checking rank in more details has no sence on tournament as in top at least 15 players are mixing places every hr. Trial can be little more complicated. Example 1 point for each player in top100 tournament. 2 points for top10 trial. 1 point for 10-50 trial. That way it should show some real view of strength in guild.
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Post by Somar [BK] on Sept 13, 2015 10:57:00 GMT
Guild wars should give 1M contribution as a reward for 1st place guild.
Then we would have some reliable rankings.
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Post by Hitmus✪NFS on Sept 13, 2015 14:03:31 GMT
Maybe Yes but remember that people has families kids, busy days not can fight GW fully. Also time zone is important. Tournament and trail is sth be done whole day. So it is kind of good measure. Of at least some measurement.
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