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Post by Locktar on Mar 25, 2015 12:28:26 GMT
Hi guys, I'm currently rank 40 (or so) in arena but I have been stuck at 9-8 for a long time and I would like some advice to improve my deck. At the moment I have all the ☆☆☆ heroes and I only need 20 more shards to get Dragon Rider (probably a week or so) and I'm also working on Wight. This is my current roster: Locktar Creatures (click to open the spreadsheet) And this is my current deck:
Thanks in advance, the forum is awesome
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Post by andypk on Mar 25, 2015 12:56:05 GMT
Hi guys, I'm currently rank 40 (or so) in arena but I have been stuck at 9-8 for a long time and I would like some advice to improve my deck. At the moment I have all the ☆☆☆ heroes and I only need 20 more shards to get Dragon Rider (probably a week or so) and I'm also working on Wight. This is my current roster: Locktar Creatures (click to open the spreadsheet) And this is my current deck:
Thanks in advance, the forum is awesome Wow 15 non-seal 5* creatures at lvl 53 and f2p. And some kick a** 5* creatures at that. That is absolutely amazing luck. You sir should playing the lottery not this silly game. Quick advice would be to drop an undying will for a second Balthazar. Controlled disposals are key. And do as many mazes as you can. Most of your issue is your cost limit. You need to get up in levels.
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Post by Locktar on Mar 25, 2015 13:10:39 GMT
Yeah, almost all the 5* creatures came from the mazes when completed. For example my 3 titanias are from mazes.
Got it, then I'll start to level up the second Balthazar.
Also there are some 5* creatures that I don't know how to fit on my deck, for example Titania or Nidoggh. Maybe it will be worth it to meld one of their abilities on other creatures?
I'm also planning to move to a more human deck when I get the Dragon Rider, do you know any good human deck setup?
Thanks!
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Post by andypk on Mar 25, 2015 13:13:56 GMT
Yeah, almost all the 5* creatures came from the mazes when completed. For example my 3 titanias are from mazes. Got it, then I'll start to level up the second Balthazar. Also there are some 5* creatures that I don't know how to fit on my deck, for example Titania or Nidoggh. Maybe it will be worth it to meld one of their abilities on other creatures? I'm also planning to move to a more human deck when I get the Dragon Rider, do you know any good human deck setup? Thanks! What?? Most of your 5*'s come from completed mazes?? I haven't gotten a single 5 star in 3.5 months of play. I use to complete 4-5 mazes a day but need the energy for dungeon searches these days. Has the odds of a 5* gone up from completed mazes? Perhaps it is because I auto attack the final boss most of the time. Do you auto-attack the final boss?
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Post by Locktar on Mar 25, 2015 13:18:36 GMT
Hahaha, then I think I'm just lucky...I don't know if they increased the odds to get a 5* creature when you complete a maze but...I also remember that the second Balthazar comes from a maze too. I clear every day all the 60 energy mazes I have unlocked 8, 7, 6, 5 if I recall correctly and yes, I always auto-attack everything in mazes...I don't like to wait
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Post by andypk on Mar 25, 2015 13:45:43 GMT
Hahaha, then I think I'm just lucky...I don't know if they increased the odds to get a 5* creature when you complete a maze but...I also remember that the second Balthazar comes from a maze too. I clear every day all the 60 energy mazes I have unlocked 8, 7, 6, 5 if I recall correctly and yes, I always auto-attack everything in mazes...I don't like to wait Well I'm strongly considering running more mazes now. Just have to cut down on my dungeon searches. Probably can stop my dream caster searches. That alone would be about one more maze. You on the other hand need to start doing Oracle dungeon searches. You'll want a melded Oracle in your human deck.
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Post by ÐARҞNESS on Mar 25, 2015 13:47:22 GMT
WHOA. I haven't seen a 4* from mazes in a while and it's raining 5* on you, nice! Nidhogg and Titania are actually good cards which I would advise against taking apart for melds. Heck, my main deck uses two Nidhoggs
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Post by andypk on Mar 25, 2015 13:52:31 GMT
WHOA. I haven't seen a 4* from mazes in a while and it's raining 5* on you, nice! Nidhogg and Titania are actually good cards which I would advise against taking apart for melds. Heck, my main deck uses two Nidhoggs Yeah and 3 Nidhoggs are the makings of a good guild map lockdown deck.
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Post by Locktar on Mar 25, 2015 14:02:07 GMT
Hahaha, then I think I'm just lucky...I don't know if they increased the odds to get a 5* creature when you complete a maze but...I also remember that the second Balthazar comes from a maze too. I clear every day all the 60 energy mazes I have unlocked 8, 7, 6, 5 if I recall correctly and yes, I always auto-attack everything in mazes...I don't like to wait Well I'm strongly considering running more mazes now. Just have to cut down on my dungeon searches. Probably can stop my dream caster searches. That alone would be about one more maze. You on the other hand need to start doing Oracle dungeon searches. You'll want a melded Oracle in your human deck. Yep, I have already another 22 shards for another Oracle, what do you think I should meld on her? WHOA. I haven't seen a 4* from mazes in a while and it's raining 5* on you, nice! Nidhogg and Titania are actually good cards which I would advise against taking apart for melds. Heck, my main deck uses two Nidhoggs Yeah and 3 Nidhoggs are the makings of a good guild map lockdown deck. If it's not too much to ask...what is a guild map lockdown deck? I have to say that I have not too much experience on guild maps, I followed the Ragnarok888 videos on youtube for some advice but I'm still a newbie in guilds
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Post by andypk on Mar 25, 2015 14:16:52 GMT
Well I'm strongly considering running more mazes now. Just have to cut down on my dungeon searches. Probably can stop my dream caster searches. That alone would be about one more maze. You on the other hand need to start doing Oracle dungeon searches. You'll want a melded Oracle in your human deck. Yep, I have already another 22 shards for another Oracle, what do you think I should meld on her? Yeah and 3 Nidhoggs are the makings of a good guild map lockdown deck. If it's not too much to ask...what is a guild map lockdown deck? I have to say that I have not too much experience on guild maps, I followed the Ragnarok888 videos on youtube for some advice but I'm still a newbie in guilds This thread talks about oracle melds. Thought it is specifically for a guild map deck: deckheroes.freeforums.net/thread/159/oracle-4-humanThis thread has a ton of info on making a guild map deck (of course Wight is required): deckheroes.freeforums.net/thread/412/help-create-guild-map-deckI know very little about creating a human arena deck. Here is another thread about 4* human decks: deckheroes.freeforums.net/thread/421/human-deck-build-tips
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Post by Locktar on Mar 25, 2015 14:51:26 GMT
Wow!, thank you very much!
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Post by Locktar on Mar 27, 2015 11:00:09 GMT
Lol, I just draw another Baltazhar this morning from the Altar with coupons....so, any thoughts about my new human line-up? (change Patriarc for Dragon Rider since I only have a few shards left to get it ) I have another seal in Spirit Siren, and you can see the two Nidhoggs so I have also some delay..not sure if with one Resurrect (probably Hippolyta) is enough and go for more magical damage or some delay... I have another Oracle for meld, so I think that's going to be the next thing to do after I finish to enhance the new Baltazhar and the Oracle.
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Post by gatecrasher✪NFS on Mar 27, 2015 22:52:12 GMT
You could meld recycle from your thalassa to a royal dragon. The stone skin will protect it from disposal and instakill and boost your human HP more. Do that 2x and get lucky and somehow get a great mystic and you would prob beat 90% of the decks out there.
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Post by DianaTroy [βκ] on Mar 27, 2015 23:11:30 GMT
Locktar If I had your cards and wanted to build a full Human deck; Titania Balthazar Balthazar Swordmaster Swordmaster Techno-Chief Arcane Hunter Royal Knight Oracle The 10th spot can be situational. Such as a 3rd Swordmaster for physical defense, a 3rd Balthazar for the Disposal, a 2nd Titania for multiple-crazy decks or Chimera for magic decks. Also, a couple more Border Rangers or Royal Knights and you can Meld. Battleblow 8 on Border Ranger is insane, like 1,500 ATK. Frost Armor 3 on Royal Knight turns him into a tank that only takes 5 DMG per physical hit.
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Post by Locktar on Mar 28, 2015 13:06:10 GMT
You could meld recycle from your thalassa to a royal dragon. The stone skin will protect it from disposal and instakill and boost your human HP more. Do that 2x and get lucky and somehow get a great mystic and you would prob beat 90% of the decks out there. Sadly I lack of a Royal Dragon (for now ) and I'm going to keep myself f2p (I could buy STAR now and get one but...). What do you mean with "that 2x"? Locktar If I had your cards and wanted to build a full Human deck; Titania Balthazar Balthazar Swordmaster Swordmaster Techno-Chief Arcane Hunter Royal Knight Oracle The 10th spot can be situational. Such as a 3rd Swordmaster for physical defense, a 3rd Balthazar for the Disposal, a 2nd Titania for multiple-crazy decks or Chimera for magic decks. Also, a couple more Border Rangers or Royal Knights and you can Meld. Battleblow 8 on Border Ranger is insane, like 1,500 ATK. Frost Armor 3 on Royal Knight turns him into a tank that only takes 5 DMG per physical hit. Hmmm, That's a great full human deck DianaTroy [βκ]. If you don't mind, I have a couple of questions about the deck: - I can't think in any big advantage of using Titania in my deck if there are no multiple copies of a strong card in my oponent's deck, spike damage because of her ambush?. What about change the Titania for another Techno-Chief/Sword Master?
- In your opinion which card is more powerfull, Techno-Chief or Sword Master?
- Do you think it's a good idea to invest on Border Rangers since I have a lot of 4* and 5* creatures?. I know that with meld they are very powerfull but the cost/efficiency of having them in the deck...how about drop a Techno-Chief for a melded Border Ranger? I have 2 Techno-Chief so I can meld Battleblow 8 on him as well..
- I finally get another copy of Oracle and I have all the materials so I'm going to evolve/meld her asap. I'm not sure what to meld on her but I know there is a post in this form talking about Oracle melding. In your opinion and thinking about Guild Maps what's the best melding, frost armor?
- Maybe it's because I'm so use to have rebirth/recycle cards in my deck that I can't imagine a deck without it hahaha. The meld for Royal Dragon that gatecrasher✪NFS proposed sound pretty good, but I lack of him, so can you think about any other option? maybe put recycle on a Royal Knight or is it a waste of recycle?
- I founded that Nidhogg is literally insane on Arena/World Maps (save me a lot of times of disposal), so I'm thinking to include him in my deck as well. It will be not a full human deck anymore but...haha, also Phantom Liege sound pretty good to put there but he does not have stone skin as Nidoggh.
I'm asking you directly but anyone can share his opinion of course . This is an example of what I'm thinking: (Now that I saw it I'm thinking about change one techno-chief for another Nidoggh...haha I love that guy xD) Well, sorry for the long post, I very appreciate for your help guys! I was stuck on 9-8 for a very long time and them BOOM!, I start to progress quickly as hell in arena, maps, etc...all thanks to your advices.
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Post by Locktar on Mar 28, 2015 13:24:56 GMT
I almost forgot....I achieved rank 9Th in Arena this morning, I run out of attempts so I couldn't fight more opponents today, but I think I can get another few positions in the arena with my current deck (only if I have a 4* hero...) This is the deck I'm using in arena: Basically the idea behind this deck is: - No disposal since the battles are played automatically and I had very bad luck with disposal in arena in the past..
- Nidhogg to seal as much times as possible. Once I get my other Nidoggh to level 10 and have more team cost probably I'll drop one Flame Mage for him.
- Flame mages are there for magic damage but also (and very important) for paralysis. It's true that you only have a % of change to paralyze/seal your opponent but if you have enough luck it's very very useful and also the magic damage to finish low health opponents is very good. I prefer them before full magic damage like Flame Brave or something like that..
- Phantom Liege and Spirit Siren for seal (seals everywhere my friend....)
- The Undying Wills are there for obvious reasons, rebirth+instakill = enemy kill himself in an automatic fight.
- And the recycles..just to get those creatures back again!
- Also the rebirth from Chaos Witch it's very good.
I don't think I can get to 1st place without a 4* hero and fighting against decks with +7k power but...I'll try
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Post by DianaTroy [βκ] on Mar 28, 2015 15:42:17 GMT
Locktar I use Titania because of the Bullseye/Ambush. The Chainstrike and Rebirth are bonuses. With the Sweeping Blow backup in Swordmaster and Techno-Chief (plus a Melded Border Ranger?) and ATK boosts from Hero and creatures like Royal Knight, she can hit for 1,500-2,000 on that first strike. If you time her right, she's a highly successful assassin. Swordmaster is the superior card, shes a great tank since her damage is low. I would swap a TC for the Nidhogg or Border Ranger. I use one Melded with Weakness for Guild Maps, works wonders. You usually need 4-7 duplicates to land a successful Meld, wait until you have that many before even trying. Better yet, wait for Double Meld days. Recycle for a 10th is a great idea, if you are willing to sacrifce the all Human aspect, which is understandable. You could also farm up copies of Sentry Angel and Meld Recycle onto him, he would be 5x harder to kill than Thalassa or Hippolyta. Frost Armor for Oracle.
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Post by DianaTroy [βκ] on Mar 28, 2015 15:48:04 GMT
As for your Arena deck, you could sacrifice a little more damage for lockdown potential if you swapped the Flame Mages for Pit Minions.
Farm Naga Mistress x2 alternatively.
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Post by Locktar on Mar 28, 2015 16:03:29 GMT
Locktar I use Titania because of the Bullseye/Ambush. The Chainstrike and Rebirth are bonuses. With the Sweeping Blow backup in Swordmaster and Techno-Chief (plus a Melded Border Ranger?) and ATK boosts from Hero and creatures like Royal Knight, she can hit for 1,500-2,000 on that first strike. If you time her right, she's a highly successful assassin. Swordmaster is the superior card, shes a great tank since her damage is low. I would swap a TC for the Nidhogg or Border Ranger. I use one Melded with Weakness for Guild Maps, works wonders. You usually need 4-7 duplicates to land a successful Meld, wait until you have that many before even trying. Better yet, wait for Double Meld days. Recycle for a 10th is a great idea, if you are willing to sacrifce the all Human aspect, which is understandable. You could also farm up copies of Sentry Angel and Meld Recycle onto him, he would be 5x harder to kill than Thalassa or Hippolyta. Frost Armor for Oracle Thanks, tips noted for Titania. I have to review how meld works because I though that it will only destroy the duplicate creature if the meld was successful...a couple of weeks farming Oracle shards then . I'm working on that Santry Angel (I only have one atm) since I joined my new guild, so it's good to know that putting recycle on him it's a good idea. Thanks for the arena tips too, but I can't put two minions because of the team cost .. I'll try it when I level up.
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Post by DianaTroy [βκ] on Mar 28, 2015 17:05:23 GMT
With Meld I have to correct you.
You need Duplicates of the creature you Evolved. The Duplicate gets destroyed every Meld attempt. The Master, the creature that you are taking the skill from, gets destroyed only on a successful Meld.
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