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Post by Dementia on Apr 6, 2017 20:32:53 GMT
I need opinions from the top dawgs out there. In your oppinion what are the most revive worthy creatures?
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Post by ZanderX10 on Apr 6, 2017 21:19:13 GMT
F2p or in general?
F2p Mithril drone Fafnir Nidhogg Mimir (Arguably) Spirit Siren
Overall PLAGUE DOCTOR Kumiho/Kitsune (Kumiho more important as kitsune is great for frost blade as well) Granite dragon Ordnance Dragonlord Octavius (with unholy rites or muddle)
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Post by Dementia on Apr 6, 2017 21:25:38 GMT
Well i buy gems on occasion but just general. Id really like to revive pisces but shes hard to get copies of
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Post by ZanderX10 on Apr 6, 2017 22:27:04 GMT
Well i buy gems on occasion but just general. Id really like to revive pisces but shes hard to get copies of
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Post by NFS✪Grandfather on Apr 6, 2017 22:38:51 GMT
So you like Utyon style If i were you i would listen to Zanders advice about revive cary,especialy about Kumiho,in combination with her sister its one of most powerful combo in game in every deck.
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Post by ZanderX10 on Apr 6, 2017 22:40:57 GMT
So you like Utyon style If i were you i would listen to Zanders advice about revive cary,especialy about Kumiho,in combination with her sister its one of most powerful combo in game in every deck. it's the only combination that allows you to safely drop recycle. For a player with cost issues that is a huge help.
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Post by icezaius on Apr 6, 2017 22:44:13 GMT
Personally I think recycle is a better meld for Octavious cause it can get revived back into play that way. Otherwise the list is pretty much perfect.
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Post by NFS✪Grandfather on Apr 6, 2017 22:44:27 GMT
So you like Utyon style If i were you i would listen to Zanders advice about revive cary,especialy about Kumiho,in combination with her sister its one of most powerful combo in game in every deck. it's the only combination that allows you to safely drop recycle. For a player with cost issues that is a huge help. i totaly agree,cost is just great and recycle is not necessery to have in that deck so overal there should not be much to say more about Kumiho/Kitsune revive
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Post by Dementia on Apr 6, 2017 22:53:29 GMT
Good tips thanks guys!
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Post by icyfist on Apr 7, 2017 20:24:27 GMT
Recycle Mammoth Rider, Revive Balthazar Lololololol
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Post by icezaius on Apr 7, 2017 23:32:44 GMT
Recycle Mammoth Rider, Revive Balthazar Lololololol I know the revive Baltz existed for a while (Jaegy had one right?), but didn't know about the recycle mammoth! That's pretty awesome
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Post by tanisomsford on Apr 8, 2017 3:23:56 GMT
I use a revive Spider Queen. She is also good.
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Post by tanisomsford on Apr 8, 2017 3:29:09 GMT
Well i buy gems on occasion but just general. Id really like to revive pisces but shes hard to get copies of The Pisces revive concept is cool(immunity plus rebirth), but Pisces wasn't built well by IGG to start. What's worse, is to make Pisces a "good" revive card, she needs skill upgrades to get that i9/10, and could even do well with a rebirth 12+. With all the OP cards that need upgrades, though, it would not make economical sense to invest so heavily in Pisces for this reason. But I seriously respect Utyon for going WAAAAY against the grain in doing his revive Pisces. It shows that we can still have at least a little creativity in the game meta.
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Post by Yuna on Apr 8, 2017 5:36:46 GMT
Pisces is a failed concept. Just use a Mythril Drone, which is better in every way. It's better to have never died at all than to die and hope to be revived. Mythril Drone has better Immunity, better stats, a better skill for longevity and a better magic block (100%). Also, it's much, much cheaper and easier to farm.
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Post by spizz0 on Apr 8, 2017 6:54:49 GMT
Is it more difficult to get a revive Pisces or Dragonlord (considering that you do get a free DL from 13-12)? If they're on the same boat then I'd go DL all the way
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Post by ℒ✰Deer on Apr 8, 2017 16:20:50 GMT
Pisces is a failed concept. Just use a Mythril Drone, which is better in every way. It's better to have never died at all than to die and hope to be revived. Mythril Drone has better Immunity, better stats, a better skill for longevity and a better magic block (100%). Also, it's much, much cheaper and easier to farm. I told this to everyone in the very beginning and everybody tried to stone me to death. Pisces - even though has the right skill - work in theory but she didn't mean to be a revive or recycle carrier. What she needs is a defense skill against physical damage to stay on the field longer. Because that is what she was meant to be. Staying on the field protecting your card against magic damage. Melding revive on her is just wasting time and material
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Post by Yuna on Apr 8, 2017 18:06:22 GMT
Pisces is a failed concept. Just use a Mythril Drone, which is better in every way. It's better to have never died at all than to die and hope to be revived. Mythril Drone has better Immunity, better stats, a better skill for longevity and a better magic block (100%). Also, it's much, much cheaper and easier to farm. I told this to everyone in the very beginning and everybody tried to stone me to death. Pisces - even though has the right skill - work in theory but she didn't mean to be a revive or recycle carrier. What she needs is a defense skill against physical damage to stay on the field longer. Because that is what she was meant to be. Staying on the field protecting your card against magic damage. Melding revive on her is just wasting time and material Well, people can be stupid.
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Post by ℒ✰Deer on Apr 8, 2017 18:29:50 GMT
One more theory about Pisces. It's a failed concept. I believe it was introduced by IGG to replace Mythril Done in Grimoire Protein challenge. Probably they thought hmmmm...lets nerf Mythril so that we can make some money. Luckily, Igg plan failed because players found another solution the beat it. So now Pisces is one of (or maybe THE) most useless 5* card in this game. After Yggdryad
Edited: I almost forgot Forest Sage. She is the worst
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Post by Yuna on Apr 8, 2017 21:04:43 GMT
One more theory about Pisces. It's a failed concept. I believe it was introduced by IGG to replace Mythril Done in Grimoire Protein challenge. Probably they thought hmmmm...lets nerf Mythril so that we can make some money. Luckily, Igg plan failed because players found another solution the beat it. So now Pisces is one of (or maybe THE) most useless 5* card in this game. After Yggdryad Edited: I almost forgot Forest Sage. She is the worst Hardly. Pisces was introduced some 5 months or so before Protean Grimoire was "nerfed". Why wait that long? It also wasn't nerfed so much as they finally got around to fix the glitch. The Protean Grimoire enemy creatures are immune to everything besides Basic Attacks. They are even immune to equipment skills. The fact that they weren't immune to Spellbinder was a glitch, a glitch they were too lazy to fix for the longest time. They just got around to it eventually.
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Post by asgarth1980 on Apr 10, 2017 1:28:12 GMT
One more theory about Pisces. It's a failed concept. I believe it was introduced by IGG to replace Mythril Done in Grimoire Protein challenge. Probably they thought hmmmm...lets nerf Mythril so that we can make some money. Luckily, Igg plan failed because players found another solution the beat it. So now Pisces is one of (or maybe THE) most useless 5* card in this game. After Yggdryad Edited: I almost forgot Forest Sage. She is the worst there are way more useless 5* than pisces... i would rate pisces average/above average... just scan ard the 5* sticker and u will see how rubbish some 5* are...
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Post by monkeylord on Apr 10, 2017 3:24:28 GMT
One more theory about Pisces. It's a failed concept. I believe it was introduced by IGG to replace Mythril Done in Grimoire Protein challenge. Probably they thought hmmmm...lets nerf Mythril so that we can make some money. Luckily, Igg plan failed because players found another solution the beat it. So now Pisces is one of (or maybe THE) most useless 5* card in this game. After Yggdryad Edited: I almost forgot Forest Sage. She is the worst there are way more useless 5* than pisces... i would rate pisces average/above average... just scan ard the 5* sticker and u will see how rubbish some 5* are... I agree. Pisces's rebirth is nice to have in deck with unholy rites, just like humiho, and the immunity helps retreat and some lockdown. Comparing it to drone isn't really fair because the magic canceling isn't important. Pisces main problem is being a morti, and is weak vs Alice (although Alices are becoming a bit more rare lately). That said, I would have to say granite dragon is a bit more viable for ftp, lately, now that it is available in ultima chests. That may seem a bit crazy considering they are spendy at 800 gems a piece, but this also used to be the only way to get fafnir, abbadon, or hippo, and people still managed over time. Throw Oinari on the list too, especially if you can take advantage of rebirth and/or the neander boost. Also consider Pontif, which is still, somehow, greatly underestimated and is definitely better than niddhog in most cases. For top end I like Ordnance and Flame summoner especially if you can score rampart runes. Dragonlord is still useful, as are kat twins. Dr. is very nice, but has problems vs. druidess in that, if it is ripped, it cannot heal itself, unlike say a soul shrew. Soul shrew is something I haven't seen yet, but it would probably a pretty good revive carrier as well.
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Post by ℒ✰Deer on Apr 10, 2017 8:42:07 GMT
She is not the worst 5* card but she is bad as a rare one. Her skill set doesn't make much sense even though immunity + rebirth is a nice combo. Basically she is just a bait or a shield waiting to be killed. There are cards which easier to obtain and do the job better than Pieces, Maybe with rampart I would consider to use her to block RQT etc. But as a revive carrier she is worse than Horned beast.
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Post by tanisomsford on Apr 11, 2017 4:08:27 GMT
there are way more useless 5* than pisces... i would rate pisces average/above average... just scan ard the 5* sticker and u will see how rubbish some 5* are... I agree. Pisces's rebirth is nice to have in deck with unholy rites, just like humiho, and the immunity helps retreat and some lockdown. Comparing it to drone isn't really fair because the magic canceling isn't important. Pisces main problem is being a morti, and is weak vs Alice (although Alices are becoming a bit more rare lately). That said, I would have to say granite dragon is a bit more viable for ftp, lately, now that it is available in ultima chests. That may seem a bit crazy considering they are spendy at 800 gems a piece, but this also used to be the only way to get fafnir, abbadon, or hippo, and people still managed over time. Throw Oinari on the list too, especially if you can take advantage of rebirth and/or the neander boost. Also consider Pontif, which is still, somehow, greatly underestimated and is definitely better than niddhog in most cases. For top end I like Ordnance and Flame summoner especially if you can score rampart runes. Dragonlord is still useful, as are kat twins. Dr. is very nice, but has problems vs. druidess in that, if it is ripped, it cannot heal itself, unlike say a soul shrew. Soul shrew is something I haven't seen yet, but it would probably a pretty good revive carrier as well. Holy s*** dude! Soul shrew is a crazy good reviver! Everyone gets so obsessed with the offensice melds, no one ever thinks about a revive soul shrew. Really good call there monkeylord.
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Post by tanisomsford on Apr 11, 2017 4:09:56 GMT
On the non f2p realm, I suppose diablo would be an ideal reviver too.
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Post by asgarth1980 on Apr 11, 2017 6:44:43 GMT
there are way more useless 5* than pisces... i would rate pisces average/above average... just scan ard the 5* sticker and u will see how rubbish some 5* are... Dr. is very nice, but has problems vs. druidess in that, if it is ripped, it cannot heal itself, unlike say a soul shrew. Soul shrew is something I haven't seen yet, but it would probably a pretty good revive carrier as well. .. how can ss be better that doctor.. against druidess.. both when hitting a warded card will have same chance to be ripped... given ss lower hp and can only get hp from 3 attk unlike doctor all cards... i dun see what u are seeing... further more..ss can't go past Fa like attacking dragonlord , he will get low hp regen but doctor get more return hp with an already enlarge hp base because of sac
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Post by Interrupted on Apr 11, 2017 23:03:17 GMT
Unholy rites and Kumiho are brutal combo... Army of Octavius cloned and she keeps rebirthing after sacrifice...
Same goes for Pisces...
I might point out that anything rebirth is good if you look at it like this. Kumiho is better due to demonization and RQT death sentence.
That being said several Titanias can be good as cheap alterntive for Unholy Rites deck. Tried and tested. The more the better as you'd want them to spin this wheel... Revive melded is not even necesary but is a huge bonus.
Revive Soul Shrew would be super solid but nothing beats GD. Both are expensive. However to farm a card in ultima chests is not anymore consider THAT expensive with gems inflation...
What I wanted to ask is something I'm thinking of. Not being heavy spender I never saw Cancer being mentioned. I'd choose him anytime over MD that basically sits there and revive. Cancer at least has nasty counter attack.
Also revive Spider Queen. I regret spending my copies for imm 9. Also waaay superior to MD and can even wipe it out, him or Paragon...
Just for laughs I made Ravage Ridge Hunter and Miasma Ash Beast. One wipes out humans like cheese and the other neanders.
2 revive Pisces in Unholy Rites deck are very inteligent setup. Problem is that not much people think out of the box...
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Post by ZanderX10 on Apr 11, 2017 23:06:59 GMT
Unholy rites and Kumiho are brutal combo... Army of Octavius cloned and she keeps rebirthing after sacrifice... Same goes for Pisces... I might point out that anything rebirth is good if you look at it like this. Kumiho is better due to demonization and RQT death sentence. That being said several Titanias can be good as cheap alterntive for Unholy Rites deck. Tried and tested. The more the better as you'd want them to spin this wheel... Revive melded is not even necesary but is a huge bonus. Revive Soul Shrew would be super solid but nothing beats GD. Both are expensive. However to farm a card in ultima chests is not anymore consider THAT expensive with gems inflation... What I wanted to ask is something I'm thinking of. Not being heavy spender I never saw Cancer being mentioned. I'd choose him anytime over MD that basically sits there and revive. Cancer at least has nasty counter attack. Also revive Spider Queen. I regret spending my copies for imm 9. Also waaay superior to MD and can even wipe it out, him or Paragon... Just for laughs I made Ravage Ridge Hunter and Miasma Ash Beast. One wipes out humans like cheese and the other neanders. 2 revive Pisces in Unholy Rites deck are very inteligent setup. Problem is that not much people think out of the box... md has a self heal. Cancer does not. Md is farmable. Cancer is not. Cancers counter attack is piss without sac. Soul shrew would be a great revive. Better than md. But she can deal massive dmg better.
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Post by ZanderX10 on Apr 11, 2017 23:12:18 GMT
If you meld revive to a dmg dealer, it's better to give it to a card that doesn't rely on its atk to optimize it's dmg such as plague Dr or ordnance. Otherwise the dmg dealer needs an atk boosting meld.
One exception would be anathema. Pvp never saw it but explore maps did and it's not a bad choice compared to other <20 cost melds
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Post by Interrupted on Apr 11, 2017 23:13:35 GMT
Unholy rites and Kumiho are brutal combo... Army of Octavius cloned and she keeps rebirthing after sacrifice... Same goes for Pisces... I might point out that anything rebirth is good if you look at it like this. Kumiho is better due to demonization and RQT death sentence. That being said several Titanias can be good as cheap alterntive for Unholy Rites deck. Tried and tested. The more the better as you'd want them to spin this wheel... Revive melded is not even necesary but is a huge bonus. Revive Soul Shrew would be super solid but nothing beats GD. Both are expensive. However to farm a card in ultima chests is not anymore consider THAT expensive with gems inflation... What I wanted to ask is something I'm thinking of. Not being heavy spender I never saw Cancer being mentioned. I'd choose him anytime over MD that basically sits there and revive. Cancer at least has nasty counter attack. Also revive Spider Queen. I regret spending my copies for imm 9. Also waaay superior to MD and can even wipe it out, him or Paragon... Just for laughs I made Ravage Ridge Hunter and Miasma Ash Beast. One wipes out humans like cheese and the other neanders. 2 revive Pisces in Unholy Rites deck are very inteligent setup. Problem is that not much people think out of the box... md has a self heal. Cancer does not. Also cancers counter attack is piss without sac. Md is also farmable. Cancer is not. Yeah but with a healer in the deck and 5* heroes with Protection my choice would be card that at least does something rather than nothing. And with brutal attacking creatures like 5 Octavius (and this happens with single revive) nor MD nor Cancer would last very long. Also both can have immunity rune and Cancer has an edge of imm 10 over MD that I saw many times being retreated. Sooo... It's my opinion but backed up with some facts.
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Post by ZanderX10 on Apr 11, 2017 23:15:39 GMT
I respect your opinion but I feel that tossing i10 pulls for a revive meld that isn't any better than md a waste. Even more so if you use meld cards.
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