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Post by ÐARҞNESS on Sept 22, 2015 12:02:34 GMT
Before you made the deck, you didn't realise by looking at other stab decks in play that it was OP? Really? I saw how decks look .. how could I have felt how powerful they are without playing with them? I didnt play vs them either.. only somewhere in the middle I saw I think Hitmus[NFS] finishing 13-11 on YouTube.. should I have stopped making my deck then? I didnt know if its is possible to do it on other maps as well. I read on forum that Curse can be used up to maps 12 .. dont remember how I went to stabthrough though .. it wasnt that widespread then .. its only after that Royals took half of top100 with st+puppets.. I told you, I'm relatively new in this game.. thats why I feel such tempo loss. Edit. You are in WK, you have lot more info. But you also were on start at some point. Try to remember what could you evaluate back then.. its only after I started making ST deck that I went to top10 guild and learned a lot. Before that I was in some noobish guild. I'm thinking about what you said, and I get what you're talking about, but at the end of the day, 5 stab cards could do what it otherwise took a full deck to do. My deck has been a work in progress for almost a year now, and the stab deck worked better than that did. There are a lot of people who spent either a lot of time or money perfecting their decks, only to have stab come and outclass them, that too with half a deck, put yourself in that position and you'll see why so many people are for the nerf.
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Post by Sithys [BK] on Sept 22, 2015 12:02:50 GMT
Woman spilled a coffee and sued McDonnalds? And you're comparing this with that? Either your logic is totally flawed or you're provoking. It this case, we "bought" what is written .. and they changed it then. If you like more "colored" explanation -> this is similar as you buy a CAR that (by specs) uses 1l of petrol on 10.000 miles and you pay lots money for this as you think its worth. And it really uses just 1l on 10.000miles. But then, they realize that it would ruin whole car economy as nobody would buy other cars any more, that other customers who bought "regular" cars are complaining now etc .. and they take your car and change it to use 10l on 50miles. Damn right I'm comparing to that ... the woman bought a stabthrough meld from McDonalds, knowing full well that her stabthrough meld was hot ... when the idiot spilled it on herself, she didn't just shrug and say to herself 'well I knew it was hot, if that was going to be a problem, I probably should have gotten a thickshake' ... no, she said to herself 'well s*** , it's not MY fault my stabthrough meld was hot, I'm going to sue Maccas for giving me a hot stabthrough meld, even though it's exactly what I ordered!! It's not my fault that I spilt it on myself like an idiot, it's THEIR fault!! Give me money!!' ... and you know the end result of that? her incredibly snaky lawyer got a jury of people just as stupid as her and won the case ... now everyone has to have lukewarm effing stabthrough melds when they go to maccas. Your little closed system of a car analogy makes no great sense, but let's flesh it out a bit and broaden the perspective on it, bring a little more context and flavour to it ... story time boys and girls ... now ever since cars were invented, car companies and oil companies and government bodies have all said that for the common good, all cars must maintain a 50miles/10l fuel ratio, otherwise the economy would crash and we'd enter a great recession ... Throughout the history of car manufacturing, there have been models that sometimes somehow miraculously did a bit better, and a bit worse, and these were always brough back into line, sure as grass was green, water was wet, and the sky is blue - much to people's disgruntlement, because it occasionally put them individually out of pocket ... but the economy stayed steady and strong, and overall everybody prospered and life generally progressed on a pretty even keel ... but some fool of a manufacturer makes a slip up, and accidentally puts a car out that has incredible fuel economy ... Lots of people jumped on the bandwagon and started buying up this car ... NICE!!! ... But the economy took a dive because people weren't buying fuel, or cars from other manufacturers or whatever, so the oil companies were firing workers, who were committing suicide and murdering their young families and such ... but mr fuel efficiency over there was laughing it up, because he'd saved himself a dollar. Didn't give a rat's a** that a father of 6 children committed a murder suicide of his entire family because he'd lost his job. Then the authorities realised that someone made an error and had to clean it up ... Mr Fuel Efficiency, he's crying, because of all the potential future money he could have saved, completely neglecting the fact that he'd just saved a mint because of the slip up in the first place, and can use those ill gotten gains as a bonus - no that didn't even occur to him, he's just got his beady, piggy little greedy eyes focussed on the big shaft the universe had just crafted for his personal, precious little tushy, and Oh woe is he, how could they do this to HIM, how was HE supposed to know that the car would be recalled? Actually yeah I didn't mind that analogy after all, we can keep that one
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Post by Hitmus✪NFS on Sept 22, 2015 12:03:35 GMT
base on some info goodswill will be nerfer also to max 1000 so even if your hero is 130.000 hp you can do only 1000:) if the info is correct of course.
so i am thinking if any curse or stab deck has any chance now when players will start level max vitality rune hmm. Did not analysed it fully yet but can be problem with it.
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Post by mortivore on Sept 22, 2015 12:03:55 GMT
Also, its not nearly that I put all my resources in ST. Im also finishing 3rd Thalassa in few days, preparing other melds etc. But it doesnt change the fact that I suffered major tempo/resources loss. They could have been more fair and try to balance if first. Then if it doesnt work, they can nerf it in v7.6. Anyways, what will be with Puppets and godswill rune? Will they nerf puppets dmg as well? Or are puppets ok bc godswill rune is harder to get? Godswill and curse capped at 1k damage. So even bigger nerf then st tbh.
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Post by drakkan on Sept 22, 2015 12:07:41 GMT
I'm thinking about what you said, and I get what you're talking about, but at the end of the day, 5 stab cards could do what it otherwise took a full deck to do. My deck has been a work in progress for almost a year now, and the stab deck worked better than that did. There are a lot of people who spent either a lot of time or money perfecting their decks, only to have stab come and outclass them, that too with half a deck, put yourself in that position and you'll see why so many people are for the nerf. I totally agree with you. Thats what I told in my guild also - st balancing is natural to come (I realized it after I cleared all the maps and saw all the replies etc). Its not natural that 5 cards can beat decks that take year to build or $$$ to put together.. I never said I'm against st balancing ...
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Post by drakkan on Sept 22, 2015 12:34:10 GMT
Damn right I'm comparing to that ... the woman bought a stabthrough meld from McDonalds, knowing full well that her stabthrough meld was hot ... when the idiot spilled it on herself, she didn't just shrug and say to herself 'well I knew it was hot, if that was going to be a problem, I probably should have gotten a thickshake' ... no, she said to herself 'well s*** , it's not MY fault my stabthrough meld was hot, I'm going to sue Maccas for giving me a hot stabthrough meld, even though it's exactly what I ordered!! It's not my fault that I spilt it on myself like an idiot, it's THEIR fault!! Give me money!!' ... and you know the end result of that? her incredibly snaky lawyer got a jury of people just as stupid as her and won the case ... now everyone has to have lukewarm effing stabthrough melds when they go to maccas. Your little closed system of a car analogy makes no great sense, but let's flesh it out a bit and broaden the perspective on it, bring a little more context and flavour to it ... story time boys and girls ... now ever since cars were invented, car companies and oil companies and government bodies have all said that for the common good, all cars must maintain a 50miles/10l fuel ratio, otherwise the economy would crash and we'd enter a great recession ... Throughout the history of car manufacturing, there have been models that sometimes somehow miraculously did a bit better, and a bit worse, and these were always brough back into line, sure as grass was green, water was wet, and the sky is blue - much to people's disgruntlement, because it occasionally put them individually out of pocket ... but the economy stayed steady and strong, and overall everybody prospered and life generally progressed on a pretty even keel ... but some fool of a manufacturer makes a slip up, and accidentally puts a car out that has incredible fuel economy ... Lots of people jumped on the bandwagon and started buying up this car ... NICE!!! ... But the economy took a dive because people weren't buying fuel, or cars from other manufacturers or whatever, so the oil companies were firing workers, who were committing suicide and murdering their young families and such ... but mr fuel efficiency over there was laughing it up, because he'd saved himself a dollar. Didn't give a rat's a** that a father of 6 children committed a murder suicide of his entire family because he'd lost his job. Then the authorities realised that someone made an error and had to clean it up ... Mr Fuel Efficiency, he's crying, because of all the potential future money he could have saved, completely neglecting the fact that he'd just saved a mint because of the slip up in the first place, and can use those ill gotten gains as a bonus - no that didn't even occur to him, he's just got his beady, piggy little greedy eyes focussed on the big shaft the universe had just crafted for his personal, precious little tushy, and Oh woe is he, how could they do this to HIM, how was HE supposed to know that the car would be recalled? Actually yeah I didn't mind that analogy after all, we can keep that one When going to wrong logic conclusions, people usually make the mistake of putting wrong (or not testing their) assumptions that they make their conclusions on. I did not know nor I had any (realistic) ways to know that "ST is hot" before I made it. It was a legit mechanics offered by IGG. I actually see where is the problem .. you think that ST was some "eternal youth elixir" or something, and that all people should have realized it. Well it wasnt, it was IGG mistake. And yes, why do my kids need to suffer because of others mistakes. If you sold something too cheap, learn from your mistakes, and try better next time. Btw, .. "companies/goverments said that you need to pay $$$ on various stuff otherwise we're all doomed" .. .. interesting.. I hope its all just (a bad) analogy.. Its like bank comes tomorrow at your door and says, dear mister, your morgage rate was really too low. We didn't evaluate it right. If it stays that low, some people will need to be fired. And you, a caring person, says "well yes, sure, I understand .. raise it as much as you want.. I'll tell my kids that they will need to skip dinner from now on"
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Post by derpy✪NFS on Sept 22, 2015 12:45:15 GMT
Balancing stabthrough to 1k was enough. The buff to hero HP runes is just stupid, IMO. WAY overpowered if it's true. The hero HP runes were absolutely fine as they were- a 5* HP rune at lv 5 gives 5k HP, around a 20% boost to a 5* hero. Seems fair. Turning that into a 200% boost is just idiocy, and totally unnecessary.
Putting stabthrough cap at 1k would actually do a good job of making sure it still had a niche without destroying it- dealing 3k damage per turn, negatable by dodge/FA+block is pretty fair considering curse does a reliable, unblockable 6/700, and godswill can top 2k with a good rune. Seems fairly in line. But hero killing just became seriously nerfed as a strategy, and I hope they rethink it.
As far as compensation goes- as far as I see it, if you don't ask you don't get. Anyone that invested huge amount of time/money into their decks did so under the rules set out by IGG- now, anyone with half an eye knew it would be nerfed but who's fault is that? IGG's for fucking up the balancing. It's not the players fault for using the skills IGG made. IGG does actually have a responsibility to compensate for not testing it well enough beforehand. That's why companies are normally very careful about releasing something- once released, and people can show they paid money for it, changing it means they're entitled to recompense.
However, if no money was involved, no recompense need be forthcoming.
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Post by Mandragora on Sept 22, 2015 12:54:05 GMT
Still, talking about essences here is just silly. Theres a bunch of good arguments in favor of backstab, keeping it the way it is cause you spent essences on it is insulting. Who said we should keep it as it is because of essences? What, you feel the urge to say something and you dont feel like reading messages .. You did.
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Post by drakkan on Sept 22, 2015 13:01:00 GMT
Who said we should keep it as it is because of essences? What, you feel the urge to say something and you dont feel like reading messages .. You did. There .. you have unique opportunity to learn something about yourself -> try to find where I said so.. and quote it.
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Post by drakkan on Sept 22, 2015 14:03:11 GMT
Its like bank comes tomorrow at your door and says, dear mister, your morgage rate was really too low. We didn't evaluate it right. If it stays that low, some people will need to be fired. And you, a caring person, says "well yes, sure, I understand .. raise it as much as you want.. I'll tell my kids that they will need to skip dinner from now on" Sigh, it's an analogy on a closed system, there is only government, car manufactuers and oil companies ... bank managers don't exist, loans don't exist, Mr Precious doesn't even know what those things are, he should lay off the paper tabs and stick to the paper rolls, man, his mind can't handle it. His kids aren't suffering, they are already ahead of where they should have been, had there been no error in the first place that their dad exploited an OP mechanic. Didn't know the coffee was hot? Please, nobody will believe that line of logic - Youtube vids lol'ing, forum posts exclaiming about OP, 5 cards 3 rounding every explorer map they come up to and your best argument is "how was I supposed to know?" ... just lol, nobody is that stupid ... think where you would be now if you had not had a stabthrough deck for this time ... no exaggerating now, it's a slow game, you said it yourself ... now cry about your rights to compensation for your "losses" ... I'm sick of hearing it honestly, the whiny juvenile mentality of an age where delusions of entitlement is accepted as a person's right and they can blindly deny any fault when there are repercussions for their actions is sickeningly disappointing. Suck it up, princess. Well Im also sick of some smartasses that like to make conclusions and are obviously not capable of taking all aspects into consideration. You keep saying that I should have known that stabthrough is OP which is a total nonsence from multiple points, which I dont feel like explaining here AGAIN .. its your problem that your tempter or what doesn't allow you to think clearly.
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Post by rafutela✪NFS on Sept 22, 2015 14:10:28 GMT
Being 3rd degree burns isn't a simple "hot" coffee ... but anyway, back to topic please.
They certainly knew that stab is powerful, but not that powerful to the point of being called "OP".
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Post by Orgoth on Sept 22, 2015 14:34:39 GMT
The nerf seems legit since logically it turns a 5 card deck to a ten card deck. While Hero HP rune i believe will be exploited by summoner heroes....
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Post by Sithys [BK] on Sept 22, 2015 14:48:13 GMT
Drakkan: your whining will either pay off or not, IGG will decide no matter whether you burst a vein posting more whining about my not understanding your whining here or not You will continue to whine until people give you stuff just to shut you up, I will continue to lol at you and fall behind because I refuse to be that much of a pain in the a** to someone else, that's just how it is, life will go on. suck it up, princess
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Post by dbreezy✪NFS on Sept 22, 2015 15:25:33 GMT
When going to wrong logic conclusions, people usually make the mistake of putting wrong (or not testing their) assumptions that they make their conclusions on. I did not know nor I had any (realistic) ways to know that "ST is hot" before I made it. It was a legit mechanics offered by IGG. I actually see where is the problem .. you think that ST was some "eternal youth elixir" or something, and that all people should have realized it. Well it wasnt, it was IGG mistake. And yes, why do my kids need to suffer because of others mistakes. If you sold something too cheap, learn from your mistakes, and try better next time. Btw, .. "companies/goverments said that you need to pay $$$ on various stuff otherwise we're all doomed" .. .. interesting.. I hope its all just (a bad) analogy.. Its like bank comes tomorrow at your door and says, dear mister, your morgage rate was really too low. We didn't evaluate it right. If it stays that low, some people will need to be fired. And you, a caring person, says "well yes, sure, I understand .. raise it as much as you want.. I'll tell my kids that they will need to skip dinner from now on" Sigh, it's an analogy on a closed system, there is only government, car manufactuers and oil companies ... bank managers don't exist, loans don't exist, Mr Precious doesn't even know what those things are, he should lay off the paper tabs and stick to the paper rolls, man, his mind can't handle it. His kids aren't suffering, they are already ahead of where they should have been, had there been no error in the first place that their dad exploited an OP mechanic. Didn't know the coffee was hot? Please, nobody will believe that line of logic - Youtube vids lol'ing, forum posts exclaiming about OP, 5 cards 3 rounding every explorer map they come up to and your best argument is "how was I supposed to know?" ... just lol, nobody is that stupid ... think where you would be now if you had not had a stabthrough deck for this time ... no exaggerating now, it's a slow game, you said it yourself ... now cry about your rights to compensation for your "losses" ... I'm sick of hearing it honestly, the whiny juvenile mentality of an age where delusions of entitlement is accepted as a person's right and they can blindly deny any fault when there are repercussions for their actions is sickeningly disappointing. Suck it up, princess. Uh....mods?
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Post by Mandragora on Sept 22, 2015 16:18:20 GMT
How much progress did you make with stab? How convenient is to call it a waste And those 80k gems are an excuse. How did you spend them? Everyone spends gems on human boosters anyways and not because of sm. Man you're defending something that cannot be defended. Taking things out of context cannot lead you anywhere. Sure it is a waste .. yes we buy human boosters .. but its not like those swordsmasters would end up on junk. Have you heard about some SW melds other than ST before. And what about graboids? 5 graboids for a meld .. what are we talking about here? Evolving creatures? Farming for resources? All the energy spent.. Then last time I counted it takes 35 4* essences to level 4* creature from 10 to 15.. and you know how many mazes/gems it takes to get 350 4* essences?.. that is not a resource loss? Such comments including those "you cleared map 14 so you're compensated" and "stop whining" are a joke and are coming from your inner insatisfaction of some kind .. Heres your whiny rant. Stop dodging it, farming essences is the stupidest attempt to get a compensation that ive ever seen in my life and you know it. Anyways im out of this thread before I drown on those tears. Its nerfed and no post here will change anything, suck it up.
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Post by dbreezy✪NFS on Sept 22, 2015 16:23:24 GMT
Tbh Mandragora, drakkan literally stated facts in that post except for the last sentence. Not sure what your beef with it is. He didn't only speak of essences....
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Post by ÐARҞNESS on Sept 22, 2015 17:19:01 GMT
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Post by ℜ★Xega on Sept 22, 2015 17:53:46 GMT
All this government talk about stabthrough getting nerfed... thanks a lot Obama
Seriously though, I think hero kill decks will be viable with or without stabthrough in its current form. Btw, I think they might be doubling hp to counter hero killing, I saw a Thor with 80k health in the next update.
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Post by sonbalin on Sept 22, 2015 18:13:44 GMT
All this government talk about stabthrough getting nerfed... thanks a lot Obama Seriously though, I think hero kill decks will be viable with or without stabthrough in its current form. Btw, I think they might be doubling hp to counter hero killing, I saw a Thor with 80k health in the next update. Was that not the Hero Vigor rune which is having it's effect multiplied by 10?
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Post by ℜ★Xega on Sept 22, 2015 18:28:49 GMT
All this government talk about stabthrough getting nerfed... thanks a lot Obama Seriously though, I think hero kill decks will be viable with or without stabthrough in its current form. Btw, I think they might be doubling hp to counter hero killing, I saw a Thor with 80k health in the next update. Was that not the Hero Vigor rune which is having it's effect multiplied by 10? Maybe, too busy to look at things. But if they did increase hero vigor x5 or x10, it would be a lazy (but effective) way to make hero killer decks less effective.
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Post by DianaTroy [βκ] on Sept 22, 2015 19:13:10 GMT
Was that not the Hero Vigor rune which is having it's effect multiplied by 10? Maybe, too busy to look at things. But if they did increase hero vigor x5 or x10, it would be a lazy (but effective) way to make hero killer decks less effective. IGG has made a reputation out of being lazy, look how bad they butchered Guild Battles with their "fixes". Hero Killing will still be viable in PvP, as most players don't have level 10 Runes. Explorer's Gate is broken now, at least the "kill the enemy Hero", dungeons are for sure.
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Post by Absoul on Sept 22, 2015 19:23:50 GMT
Maybe, too busy to look at things. But if they did increase hero vigor x5 or x10, it would be a lazy (but effective) way to make hero killer decks less effective. IGG has made a reputation out of being lazy, look how bad they butchered Guild Battles with their "fixes". Hero Killing will still be viable in PvP, as most players don't have level 10 Runes. Explorer's Gate is broken now, at least the "kill the enemy Hero", dungeons are for sure. Not all levels in Explorers Gate will have the Hero Vigor Rune.
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Post by DianaTroy [βκ] on Sept 22, 2015 19:25:46 GMT
IGG has made a reputation out of being lazy, look how bad they butchered Guild Battles with their "fixes". Hero Killing will still be viable in PvP, as most players don't have level 10 Runes. Explorer's Gate is broken now, at least the "kill the enemy Hero", dungeons are for sure. Not all levels in Explorers Gate will have the Hero Vigor Rune. Let's certainly hope so. I've been going through Map 14 without Stabthrough (Map 13 was a joke with Stabthrough and made me feel dirty) and would hate to get stuck on the "kill the enemy Hero" dungeons because they have ungodly amounts of HP.
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Post by Absoul on Sept 22, 2015 19:31:23 GMT
Not all levels in Explorers Gate will have the Hero Vigor Rune. Let's certainly hope so. I've been going through Map 14 without Stabthrough (Map 13 was a joke with Stabthrough and made me feel dirty) and would hate to get stuck on the "kill the enemy Hero" dungeons because they have ungodly amounts of HP. You have to kill the enemy Hero on 14-8 Hard. The hero has a 5* Hero Vigor rune at level 10, you better hurry up.
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Post by xenas on Sept 22, 2015 19:45:33 GMT
Ok ive given you guys a warning and you refuse to listen. This topic is NOT about compensation, nor how "stupid" any one was investing (alot) in this tactic, it worked while it lasted. Lets face it IGG makes the calls not us and whe can whine, moan whatever but its useless.
Im locking this topic for now, since its nothing but useless agrueing.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2015 20:39:13 GMT
Why are people still replying to this topic?
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Post by ÐARҞNESS on Sept 22, 2015 22:05:46 GMT
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Post by Pyron on Sept 22, 2015 22:15:18 GMT
Maybe just close this topic and discuss about the nerf at a more proper topic like the update one. This one was opened on an "emotional" reaction note on this matter and what we have is extreme opinions on this matter. Better kill off this topic.
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Post by Sithys [BK] on Sept 22, 2015 22:17:37 GMT
Doubling hero health +/- 10x hero health rune is going to kind of ruin guild maps. Contribution wont change, but damage will go up significantly, which means less cash overall (not such a problem) and guild maps being killed alot faster (a big problem).
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Post by sonbalin on Sept 22, 2015 22:30:02 GMT
Doubling hero health +/- 10x hero health rune is going to kind of ruin guild maps. Contribution wont change, but damage will go up significantly, which means less cash overall (not such a problem) and guild maps being killed alot faster (a big problem). Not really, Blood Curse is only 500 base damage with the rest being a precentage modifier of your heroes health. You could have a 5 billion health hero and it won't last much longer than a 20000 health hero. Bless will be capped at 1k per cast as well.
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